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#16 Post by Makoto »

Are you sure you don't already have at least gnutls installed in some form? :)
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#17 Post by mikeb »

No...it simply does not load the plugins lacking libs like vlc does. I gave it a test out on irc and all was fine.

The version I have at the moment (2.5.8 which gave yahoo and msn fixes at the time) uses libnsl for gadugadu and has ssl-nss instead of gnutls which uses the mozilla libraries...I could probably drop them in if I was being lazy :D

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edit..ok dropped in the ssl-nss and libgg plugins from the older version and they work...yahoo connected and gg shows an active plugin...so lazy I am....

gnutls tends to be the ubuntu/debian version ...

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#18 Post by Makoto »

I just meant that if Pidgin executed, you already had the dependencies installed in some form. :mrgreen: I didn't think 4.1.2 had them preinstalled, though. :)
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#19 Post by mikeb »

You are right those dependancies are not included.... but at least if someone wanted your build of 2.10.7 on 4.12 its useable with a minor plugin swap... I presume its probably configurable at build time as to which ssl is used but there's no need for anyone to get that involved for us oddball users :D

Nice tidy build too...some are way over the top. :)

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#20 Post by Makoto »

Pidgin 2.10.8 has been released. See the main post for the link to the changelog and downloads.

Oops, forgot to ask...
mikeb wrote:Nice tidy build too...some are way over the top. :)
How so? I don't think I've ever really seen any Pidgin pets/builds that weren't more or less basic. :)
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#21 Post by mikeb »

Oh there were some pets that were double the size of yours at one point...even went to sfs on one.

I never bothered to download them to find out why....might have had dictionaries / spellchecker libs, and so on...I think every possible option was enabled.

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#22 Post by Makoto »

To be fair, though, I've seen one or two people who preferred using SFS for all their packages, even the tiny ones. (Probably using sfs_load rather than the Boot Manager.)

I use Pidgin often enough that I wouldn't want to use it as an SFS, but that's just me. :)
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#23 Post by vicmz »

Makoto wrote:To be fair, though, I've seen one or two people who preferred using SFS for all their packages, even the tiny ones. (Probably using sfs_load rather than the Boot Manager.)

I use Pidgin often enough that I wouldn't want to use it as an SFS, but that's just me. :)
Not just you. :D I decide to go for PET or SFS files depending on how big the app is. I don't think Pidgin is too big to use it as SFS, even including all dependencies. Also, I remove all locales except the ones I use. Maybe because I usually run Precise, which already has Pidgin so I only have to install the main package. Skype is another story. :wink:
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#24 Post by mikeb »

other than core stuff every app I use is an sfs..some only a couple of hundred k. Regular ones loaded at boot...one offs loaded dynamically.

got that from slax and made me pups do the same.

anyway we/I digress.

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#25 Post by Makoto »

The Pidgin devs will probably be releasing 2.10.9 soon, probably this weekend - mostly due to a bug introduced in 2.10.8 that causes problems for those trying to connect to Facebook chat. (Incidentally, that's why I kept the download links for 2.10.7 in the main post.)

I don't know if there are any other fixes included, though.
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#26 Post by mikeb »

mostly due to a bug introduced in 2.10.8 that causes problems for those trying to connect to Facebook chat.
some might consider that to be a feature :D

well thanks for keeping all of us up to date :)

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#27 Post by Makoto »

I don't know... I try to stay as far away from Facebook and Twitter as possible, if I can help it. :mrgreen:
However, since Facebook chat uses XMPP, a problem with that could theoretically affect other XMPP users (Google Chat, etc.). :|

Anyway, v2.10.9 has been released; the download links are in the first post of this thread. :)
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#28 Post by mikeb »

Hi Makoto

I got the urge to build 2.10.9 and play a bit.
I used libnss (mozilla) for ssl which seemed to work just fine for yahoo and did not then need the gnutls dependancies, and also enabled sasl and added libsasl2 which some irc networks use for tor also...all seemed happy.
glib 2.16 is used for a couple of functions which I had updated in 4.12 for stability with flash player so must mention that too....they could be bypassed but then again the update for 4.12 is worthwhile.

By the way what is perl used for .. for my old 2.5.8 version I deleted the perl libraries which are quite big and could not detect any loss of function?

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#29 Post by dejan555 »

I guess for ability to add additional perl scripts/plugins:
https://developer.pidgin.im/doxygen/dev ... howto.html
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#30 Post by mikeb »

Yeah the obvious answer lol...I suppose i was wondering if any of the standard chat ability is dependant on its presense.
Funny the examples seem to duplicate what pidgin does anyway... or perhaps I am missing something which is often the case.

My take on this is having a basic only whats needed pidgin leaving out all the juicy extras that are available to keep it puppy sized.

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#31 Post by dejan555 »

Not sure if it's used for anything else, but if there's a --disable-perl option in configure then it's probably not crucial for main functions, and after configure finishes it outputs which protocols are enabled.
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#32 Post by mikeb »

and after configure finishes it outputs which protocols are enabled.
good point ... thats how I eliminated gnutls....

cheers... i will give it a test

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#33 Post by mikeb »

--disable-perl
did not give any messages about lost features so I guess its just there for added perl scripts..

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#34 Post by abuian »

Just saw this security issue with GNUTLS:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03 ... sdropping/

It looks like you have to use the older version with this build of Pidgin; any chance it could be re-built to work with the patched version?

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#35 Post by Makoto »

dejan555 has provided a new build of gnutls 3.2.13 and Pidgin 2.10.9, compiled against it. If you'd like to try these builds, download them from here:

gnutls-3.2.13-i486-431.pet (Note: This may require the two dependencies (gmp, nettle) found in the post below.)

pidgin-2.10.9-i486-431.pet

Thanks again, to dejan555, for all your help. :)
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