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Pidgin 2.10.9 - Build for Puppy 4.3.1 (and later)
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dejan555


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Feb 2014, 10:57    Post subject:  

Not sure if it's used for anything else, but if there's a --disable-perl option in configure then it's probably not crucial for main functions, and after configure finishes it outputs which protocols are enabled.
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Feb 2014, 11:04    Post subject:  

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and after configure finishes it outputs which protocols are enabled.

good point ... thats how I eliminated gnutls....

cheers... i will give it a test

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Feb 2014, 12:17    Post subject:  

--disable-perl
did not give any messages about lost features so I guess its just there for added perl scripts..

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abuian

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 15:29    Post subject:  

Just saw this security issue with GNUTLS:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/

It looks like you have to use the older version with this build of Pidgin; any chance it could be re-built to work with the patched version?

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Apr 2014, 01:09    Post subject:  

dejan555 has provided a new build of gnutls 3.2.13 and Pidgin 2.10.9, compiled against it. If you'd like to try these builds, download them from here:

gnutls-3.2.13-i486-431.pet (Note: This may require the two dependencies (gmp, nettle) found in the post below.)

pidgin-2.10.9-i486-431.pet

Thanks again, to dejan555, for all your help. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Apr 2014, 01:56    Post subject:  

No problem, you might need
gmp-6.0.0-i486-431.pet and nettle-2.7.1-i486-431.pet
as gnutls dependencies.

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Apr 2014, 06:26    Post subject:  

Hmm that gnutls discovery does look a bit hairy.... one to note is that pidgin can be built to use nss from mozilla instead which is usually no problem since puppy normally adds mozilla libs to the path.
I did this with my puppy build of pidgin more as a space saving excercise in an older pup that does not include gnutls.

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Apr 2014, 07:37    Post subject:  

Awesome! Thanks. One of my next major projects is to play around more with building my own packages; that Mozilla option sounds intriguing, though I see that the Linux from Scratch guide advises against it. In the meantime, I figured anyone else who was using the Pidgin build from this thread would benefit from an updated package.

Incidentally, it looks like the current version of Slacko comes with another version of GNUTLS. I wonder, if they updated it, if it would be possible to install Pidgin without any other dependencies. Probably a simple question, but that's just how ignorant I am of building packages Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Apr 2014, 08:00    Post subject:  

Suck it and see...ldd will help but you need to ldd all the plugins too.

As for NSS perhaps they say that as you usually need xulrunner/nss stuff to build it...i happen to have those around for building gnome-mplayer plugins and puppy dev files may do too.
Running configure with yer wanted options will soon tell you if you have what you need. The pidgins here are built without gstreamer support which makes life a whole lot easier.

run ./configure --help to see al the options. Also you can see what was used to build a working version going into help/build info.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Apr 2014, 14:16    Post subject:  

Hmm I cannot connect to yahoo with gnutls.... nss works just fine.

Not sure who this affects...may well be gnuTLS version dependent after the recent revelations.

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Apr 2014, 06:27    Post subject:  

It might be worth it to ask around on the Pidgin support and devel mailing lists. Not many people have mentioned having problems with connecting to Yahoo - although I happen to be one of them; I haven't been able to connect to my YIM account for a while (though I only have one contact there, and he's also on AIM, so it's not a big deal).

But, nobody's said much about it. You're the first I've seen with a possible cause or explanation (I didn't think about the SSL angle, for example Embarassed ).

(And, yes, I haven't installed the new recompiled build yet, either. Embarassed )

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Apr 2014, 06:36    Post subject:  

Well I assume its a case of obtain the 'fixed' gnutls libs or build using nss ... the latter definately gets it working and is good for jabber too but the former is probably the neater option.

Just posted this incase anyone was wondering why it failed to connect like I did.

And yes who still uses yahoo?..I just happened to have an old account on it which is only really used for freecycle forum Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Apr 2014, 01:27    Post subject:  

Yahoo still doesn't work for me, even after installing the new gnutls and Pidgin build. Neutral

For me, it was a matter of testing, way back when. I even have GTalk connected all the time, even though I don't really have any contacts there. It helps notify me if anything pops up in my gmail box, at least... Very Happy
(Same for my Yahoo inbox, but now that that's not working...)

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Apr 2014, 05:54    Post subject:  

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Yahoo still doesn't work for me, even after installing the new gnutls and Pidgin build.

hmm thats annoying indeed...I hoped thats all it would take.
I also have a version of 2.5.8 on windows and that refuses to connect now saying wrong data length for the login but the log says authentication is ok... and google is lacking information on this recent problem.

So seems like only a recent build using nss is working.
Jabber works with either gnuTLS or nss by the way.

Just for testing purposes heres my nss build for older puppy
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/110545536/Puppy/Pidgin-2.10.9_415.sfs
it may not even get on with recent mozilla libraries...by th eway its sfs3.
Pidgin does not allow pic and mix with its plugins like vlc does so it has to be done as a bundle.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Apr 2014, 18:28    Post subject: yahoo  

Yahoo doesn't work on any Puppy-Pidgin any more.
Strange because it still works on Ubuntu, Fedora and Debian.
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