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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 07:12    Post_subject:  

A small but nice addition:

If you have the latest gtkdialog, you will have a new icon for gtkdialog windows, /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/gtkdialog.png

This can be replaced with another file of the same name, the puppy logo for example.. as I have done in Akita, it's a nice looking touch IMHO...
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 09:51    Post_subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
I have had a go at making a .pet of the nvidia 173.14.36 legacy driver for Racy with kernel 3.0.66

Tested here on my GeForce FX 5200 card and works OK.

Please advise about anything that needs changing or improving in the pinstall and puninstall scripts though, as I am not certain about those.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84729


Thanks, I have added the pet to the official 'wary5' repo on ibiblio, uploading it now.

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sszindian


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 09:58    Post_subject: Racy  

Sage wrote:
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sszindian wrote:
Quote:
the fonts ... could be a tad bit larger say maybe at least a #12 or #13
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Sage wrote:

Folks constantly confuse FONTS with 'font size', correctly named POINT SIZE

Of course one can have larger fonts, but they will look different, not necessarily be bigger.
It's important to adopt correct terminology usage for anyone engaged in serious document composition, editing and information dissemination.
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Wow... it's nice to know we have someone here that is so so politically-correct and terminology-smart!

Butafter working with these boxes for 30-years, I believe that anyone (all dev's included) who read my post and uses Seamonkey Browser in Racy would know 'Exactly' what I was referring to!

Maybe because you're so technology-smart, you can suggest, or better yet, even do a fix? I seem to forget... just exactly what are your contributions to the Puppy community (besides correcting others)?

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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 10:20    Post_subject:  

There was one thing that I did not mention in my post earlier is that in doing the remaster I did notice that the script did not copy anything from the live cd.

When I looked into the puppylivecdbuild folder the only thing that was there was the sfs file.
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Sage

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 10:28    Post_subject:  

Quote:
sszindian

Typical transatlantic attitude - quick to take offense, completely misunderstanding the meaning of 'good will to all men, help a fellow traveller along the way' and met with a hail of abuse.
If you ever get around to writing some worthwhile text in a quality word processor, you'll see the correct usage of 'font' and 'point size' in the drop down boxes.
Now, since you raised the matter, let's look at your record on the Forum. Umm, yes, joined 2010, contributions 455. Wow, a really committed heavyweight of long standing.
So, let's stop the abuse and try to run a well organised Forum with correct terminologies, correct spelling and grammar, absence of text-speak - did I forget anything? Oh, yes, good manners to fellow contributors, whether they are mainline coders, testers or users offering feedback as requested.
A simple 'thank you' would've sufficed.
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sszindian


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 11:31    Post_subject: Racy  

To Sage:

Different folks... different strokes they say!

I explain things as I see them 'My Way' which is the way I have found most people understand.

You on the other hand seem to want to create a 'perfect forum' well, give it a shot and good luck! I haven't found one yet.

My objective isn't to please you, or others on this forum. I am interested in giving Barry information he requested from testers so that Puppy builds can become the best available and I'm sure most of the other testers here share that same thought.

This is a thread for the betterment of Racy... not for stupid feelings so let's let it end and get back to making Racy a better distro for which this thread was intended.

In the future if you don't approve of what I post, PM me, don't waste valuable forum space! (No more reply from me here... it ends.)

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 11:43    Post_subject: Wary and Racy Puppy 5.5 Release Candidates
Sub_title: racy 5493
 

I booted from the live dvd and did a frugal install to the hard drive
with the universal installer.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sat 2 Mar 2013 on Racy Puppy 5.4.93 Linux 3.0.66 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS780 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11672 Compatibility Profile Context
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Core 0: @2600 1: @2600 2: @2600 3: @2600 MHz
# glxgears
19760 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3951.850 FPS
19830 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3965.992 FPS
19817 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3963.326 FPS
#
It's working well so far.
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 12:34    Post_subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:
Wary5.4.90

After years of having a nice simple "Grub Legacy";
Wary is now saddled with a convoluted, confusing, unusable,
version known as "Kent Robotti Grub Legacy".

Make that thing go away!!!

As far as I can tell, the grubconfig in Wary 5490 is the same version as in every Puppy going back to Puppy 431, except for a few small patches.
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 12:53    Post_subject: Wary and Racy Puppy 5.5 Release Candidates
Sub_title: racy 5493
 

I booted from the live dvd and did a frugal install to the hard drive
with the universal installer.
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sat 2 Mar 2013 on Racy Puppy 5.4.93 Linux 3.0.66 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidia Corporation G84[GeForce 8600 GT](rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 310.32
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @1603 1: @1603 2: @1603 3: @1603 MHz
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.378 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.918 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.918 FPS

I needed to boot puppy pfix=nox,ram and then run xorgwizard,choose
nouveau,then xwin.
It's running well so far.
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 13:01    Post_subject:  

Racy 5.4.93

- /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[ 82.526] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
...
[ 82.933] drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0
[ 82.956] (EE) AIGLX error: Calling driver entry point failed
[ 82.975] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[ 82.981] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized swrast

- click desktop icon "help"
"HOWTO write programs for Racy Puppy" leads nowhere
"HOWTO multimedia" ---> xpaint, Figurine, Impress, GTKSee...

- it contains obsolete Ayttm

- ghostscript works but /usr/local/lib/ghostscript/ is missing.
See http://www.gnu.org/software/ghostscript/intro.html

- /dev/dri should belong to "video" group. Same for /dev/dvb , /dev/fw* , /dev/vbi* and /dev/video*
- /dev/console should belong to group "tty"
- /dev/ram should be a link to /dev/ram1 ?

- /etc/host.conf could have line "nospoof on" for security

- Big files
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/seamonkey-2.12.1/libxul.so
Can we do without...
LLVM and ICUdata are not there, a chance.

- /home should exist for adding new users.

- In groups, there is twice tty.

- /etc/modules.conf is obsolete
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 13:44    Post_subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
rjbrewer wrote:
Wary5.4.90

After years of having a nice simple "Grub Legacy";
Wary is now saddled with a convoluted, confusing, unusable,
version known as "Kent Robotti Grub Legacy".

Make that thing go away!!!

As far as I can tell, the grubconfig in Wary 5490 is the same version as in every Puppy going back to Puppy 431, except for a few small patches.


I've tried 3 different full installs without success.
Older Grub allows simple install to MBA.
"Robotti" version skips from "simple" to "expert" options that
do absolutely nothing.

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 14:02    Post_subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:
Older Grub allows simple install to MBA.
"Robotti" version skips from "simple" to "expert" options that
do absolutely nothing.

Can you give me an example of a Puppy where grubconfig is not titled as the "Robotti version"? I would like to compare them.
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 14:21    Post_subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
rjbrewer wrote:
Older Grub allows simple install to MBA.
"Robotti" version skips from "simple" to "expert" options that
do absolutely nothing.

Can you give me an example of a Puppy where grubconfig is not titled as the "Robotti version"? I would like to compare them.


Probably any version before this 5.4.90 Wary?
I've mostly used Wary 5.3 before this. It looks just like
other earlier Puppies.

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 15:17    Post_subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:
rcrsn51 wrote:
rjbrewer wrote:
Older Grub allows simple install to MBA.
"Robotti" version skips from "simple" to "expert" options that
do absolutely nothing.

Can you give me an example of a Puppy where grubconfig is not titled as the "Robotti version"? I would like to compare them.


Probably any version before this 5.4.90 Wary?

So you didn't actually check?

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@BarryK:

The problem is NOT with grubconfig. The problem is with Xdialog and GTK, specifically the menubox widget. It is now throwing an error message into 2>/tmp/. So grubconfig cannot parse the results.

I would assume that this is breaking other applets.
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 15:33    Post_subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:


Probably any version before this 5.4.90 Wary?

So you didn't actually check?
[/quote]

Of course I did!!
How many freakin examples do you need?

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