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BeeJay

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 19:08    Post subject:  New lappie, no Puppy
Subject description: problems with Puppy 5.2.8 Lucid and new hardware
 

Been using Puppy for quite a while as an alternative OS on an older Win 7 desktop so when I got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge it was automatic to want to add it asap. However the laptop has no internal DVD so I had to set up Puppy from a USB DVD but no joy as no Puppy sfs file found. Assuming that this was a USB problem I copied the sfs file to the hard disk and tried again and then everything appeared to be OK - except my USB flash drive simply wasn't registering, and neither would any other that I tried. Putting that problem aside I tried to set up a wireless connection to the router, but no wireless adapter found! I went through every one in the More list but none would work with the Broadcom adapter in the Edge.

So using the current version of Puppy I've no USB and no wifi. Is there anything I can do?
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 21:48    Post subject:  

Try this.
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tallboy


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 22:27    Post subject:  

Hi BeeJay, I hope this can be helpful.
There is a complementary 528 that you may want to take a look at, the LupuPlus_5.2.8.005-1. It has a number of extra drivers - I spotted a broadcom driver in there -and some other small improvements. You'll find the lupuplus in the ordinary 528 thread, posts starting here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70855&start=1665

There is also an updated usb-modeswitch modem package. Take a look at this post with download link, in the same 528 thread: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=646351#646351

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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 22:50    Post subject:  

Are these USB 3.0 ports? You will probably need a newer Puppy to detect them.
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BeeJay

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb 2013, 05:57    Post subject:  

OK thanks guys, not at home atm but will follow up. Current version also has .005 at the end but not -1 but worth a try and yes, the ports are USB3.
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb 2013, 06:30    Post subject:  

Once upon a time...
When using my old 2003 PC...
Lupu-528.005 was my favourite Puppy.
Really loved that Puppy. Very Happy

Then I bought a new PC in 2012, and Lupu wouldn't work on it.
Found that the only one of my previous 6 Puppies that would work on both the old and the new PC was "Slacko-5.3.3.1-scsi".
This Slacko is now my favorite Puppy.
It's rather like Lupu.

Others that work on the new hardware:
2. Dpup-Exprimo-5.x.3.4.2.8-scsi
3. Racy-5.3
4. Precise-5.4.2
5. Fatdog64-600-Firefox
6. Lina-003
7. Macpup_529
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BeeJay

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb 2013, 06:38    Post subject:  

Just what I needed, I'd really miss my puppy. Let you know.
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb 2013, 06:44    Post subject:  

Quote:
and yes, the ports are USB3


The USB3 driver is called " xhci-hcd.ko " .

As I
Code:
grep XHCI /mnt/sdb6/etc/modules/*


I get a

/mnt/sdb6/etc/modules/DOTconfig-k2.6.33.2-27MAY2010-LUPU-SMP-TICKLESS:# CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD is not set

You would need to recompile the kernel and repack the initrd.gz to get USB3 support for Lupu .

Probably a later 2.6.32.x kernel from Wary would do, too .

:Take it easy but take it:

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BeeJay

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb 2013, 15:09    Post subject:  

I'm very pleased I posted my problem here as I'm posting this from Slacko 5.4, on my new lappie. My USB3 ports are being recognized and my wireless adapter too. As I don't have a dvd on this comp I installed Slacko by first installing EasyBCD in Win 7 and placing a copy of the ISO file at the root of C along with a copy of the sfs file. That's easier than using a DVD as EasyBCD can use an ISO file exactly as if it were a real disk. The only residual problem I'm aware of is my touchpad isn't working too well, but the wireless mouse is so no problem.

Thanks everyone...it's lovely to have my puppy back again!
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tallboy


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PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb 2013, 22:09    Post subject:  

BeeJay, I hope you get the Slacko to work as intended. I migrated to Slacko 5.4 myself after Debian closed the Lenny repos for my beloved dpup_484/485s. The Slacko still has a lot of bugs and problems to sort out, so in the meantime I decided to go for the Lupu_528, and later the LupuPlus_528. After some app deletions, and some app additions, followed by a remastering, it is now as close to perfect as can be for me. If you experience trouble with the Slacko, you can use the LupuPlus_528.

The post that I linked to above, announcing LupuPlus_5.2.8.005_1 and listing all the new drivers, also includes a USB3 driver - in addition to the broadcom driver you need - on that list, see also this post regarding that USB3 driver:
Drivers for Puppy 5.1-5.2.8 with 2.6.33.2 kernel


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BeeJay

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 05:02    Post subject:  

Apart from my touchpad Slacko does seem OK atm so now I will also set up LupuPlus and see how that goes. Might be a few days though.
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 14:07    Post subject:  

Quote:
after Debian closed the Lenny repos for my beloved dpup_484/485s


Old debian repo is at

http://archive.debian.net/

Took indeed several month after Lenny had been removed from debian.org to show up at debian.net .
* bo (1.3.1)
* hamm (2.0)
* slink (2.1)
* potato (2.2)
* woody (3.0)
* sarge (3.1)
* etch (4.0)
* lenny (5.0)

I am using it quite often .
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BeeJay

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 18:48    Post subject:  

tallboy wrote:
The post that I linked to above, announcing LupuPlus_5.2.8.005_1 and listing all the new drivers, also includes a USB3 driver - in addition to the broadcom driver you need
tallboy

That has worked perfectly on the Lenovo and I've removed Slacko. Thank you!
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 21:47    Post subject:  

Glad you made it work, BeeJay. I don't think I've ever used a puppy as complete as the LupuPlus when it comes to how all things actually work as intended, to use a Debian expression; it is a stable version!

Karl Godt wrote:
Old debian repo is at http://archive.debian.net/

Thank you very much, Karl!
I downloaded all the Lenny DVD .isos at a time, but I cannot find them! Rolling Eyes

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BeeJay

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 05:43    Post subject:  

tallboy wrote:
Glad you made it work, BeeJay. I don't think I've ever used a puppy as complete as the LupuPlus when it comes to how all things actually work as intended, to use a Debian expression; it is a stable version!

May just have spoken too soon. Certainly the initial setup went without a hitch, everything working straight 'out of the box', and when I shut it down yesterday evening and directed to save the LupuSave file to my flash drive, that appeared to work too. But booting it up just now it's asking for first setup details again, time zone etc. So either it can't find or isn't using the saved info.

It's the same flash drive I've long used with Lupu 5.2.8 but I did reformat it first to remove any old files.

Some digging and head scratching required! First will be to watch exactly what's on the screen during the next boot to see what it says about the saved file, but Saturdays are busy days so that may have to wait a while.
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