Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Tue 30 Sep 2014, 18:46
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Fatdog64-620beta2
Moderators: Flash, JohnMurga
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 7 of 9 [122 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next
Author Message
Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2114
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 15:21    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Quote:
It's an Acer keyboard, I don't see any model number on the back of it,
just says "Acer wired keyboard made in China".
I just tried it again and got the same result, during boot it doesn't
respond when I try to enter a number for the savefile to use,plugging
in my Dell ps2 keyboard (both in a same time) worked and continued the
bootup successfully, the Acer keyboard works fine once bootup is
completed.
The Acer keyboard is a decent keyboard (when it works) but I'll just
stick with the Dell in Fatdog.

That's odd. Do you mind posting "lsmod" here? As an alternative, you can boot with "coldplug" parameter, see if the acer works. If it does, then it is definitely a missing module (probably a new kernel module we haven't gotten it built-in yet).

cheers!


Doing Fatdog coldplug worked, it accepted the savefile number.
I'll attach the lsmod output.
lsmod.txt.gz
Description 
gz

 Download 
Filename  lsmod.txt.gz 
Filesize  2.35 KB 
Downloaded  144 Time(s) 
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 2183
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 15:48    Post subject:  

Thanks,

Just had a chat with kirk, your lsmod confirms that we miss one of the (new) module that needs to be compiled built-in - that's the hid_generic. It should be fixed in next release. For now if you don't want to load the full "coldplug", you can use "loadmodules=hid_generic" instead (in fact, I'd be grateful if you can test this parameter and see if the keyboard works, if it does, it helps to confirm that module is the one we need to build into the kernel).

cheers!

_________________
Fatdog64, Slacko and Puppeee user. Puppy user since 2.13.
Contributed Fatdog64 packages thread
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2114
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 15:55    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Thanks,

Just had a chat with kirk, your lsmod confirms that we miss one of the (new) module that needs to be compiled built-in - that's the hid_generic. It should be fixed in next release. For now if you don't want to load the full "coldplug", you can use "loadmodules=hid_generic" instead (in fact, I'd be grateful if you can test this parameter and see if the keyboard works, if it does, it helps to confirm that module is the one we need to build into the kernel).

cheers!


"loadmodules=hid_generic" worked.

Thanks
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2114
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 06:41    Post subject: Re: Fatdog64-620beta2  

jamesbond wrote:

It takes a long time to load from the SDHC (class 10) card but it's working
okay otherwise so far.
Yes, this is a known issue, for certain BIOS-es. If you plan to use this for daily usage, I'd recommend that you run the "fatdog-split-initrd.sh" script from the command line; this will split the humongous initrd into small initrd with fatdog.sfs outside (just like standard puppies) - which should improve your boot times.
[quote]

I made a /mnt/home/tmp directory and then entered the following:

# sh fatdog-split-initrd.sh /mnt/home/initrd /mnt/home/tmp

When it finished I copied the contents of /mnt/home/tmp to /mnt/home,
then deleted /mnt/home/tmp when it finished copying.
Next bootup took 1 minute, big improvement.
Thanks.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 2183
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 14:23    Post subject:  

Billtoo, thanks for testing.

cheers!

_________________
Fatdog64, Slacko and Puppeee user. Puppy user since 2.13.
Contributed Fatdog64 packages thread
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
prehistoric


Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Posts: 1282

PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 16:55    Post subject: Re: Fatdog64-620beta2  

jamesbond wrote:
Billtoo wrote:

It takes a long time to load from the SDHC (class 10) card but it's working
okay otherwise so far.
Yes, this is a known issue, for certain BIOS-es. If you plan to use this for daily usage, I'd recommend that you run the "fatdog-split-initrd.sh" script from the command line; this will split the humongous initrd into small initrd with fatdog.sfs outside (just like standard puppies) - which should improve your boot times.
Quote:


I made a /mnt/home/tmp directory and then entered the following:

# sh fatdog-split-initrd.sh /mnt/home/initrd /mnt/home/tmp

When it finished I copied the contents of /mnt/home/tmp to /mnt/home,
then deleted /mnt/home/tmp when it finished copying.
Next bootup took 1 minute, big improvement.
Thanks.
This has also been a problem with some BIOSes when booting from SATA DVDs. If the small initrd option is not already available as a separate ISO image these instructions should be readily available for those who use this as a live-DVD. I've had people tell me the DVD I gave them to try didn't work because they couldn't believe it would take so long to boot.

This also defeats one of the ways I've addressed fears about messing with bootloaders. (NTbootloader is constructed so that any change is likely to cause failure. It has been known to reduce users to tears. I don't even mention lilo, GRUB, GRUB2 or GRUB4DOS.) I leave them alone, and set the BIOS parameters to try to boot from CD/DVD first. Then, when the user wants to run Windoze they can boot without a problem, when they want to run some flavor of Puppy they simply insert the CD/DVD, which finds the appropriate savefile. This procedure has enough concreteness to reassure people they are not going to accidentally upset the sleeping Windoze dragon. I need to do something simple and reliable to offset copious FUD.

Myself, I use the GRUB bootloader with multiple Puppies, no Windoze at all, and Fatdog with the humongous initrd, but I've learned caution about advising others to do the same.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 2183
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 02:41    Post subject:  

Thanks prehistoric, that's a valid concern.

Based on (inconclusive) experience, slow-loading of huge initrd usually happens on older machines (I have one of those). On newer machines, it is usually not a problem - but again, it really depends on the BIOS.

There won't be a small-initrd ISO, but it can easily be created. The official way to do that is to use the remaster tool and tick "use small initrd" when asked. Behind the scene, this tool will call the fatdog-split-initrd.sh to do the job. Of course, if one is already running frugal install, there is no need to do remaster and just run the script directly, like Billtoo has done.

cheers!

_________________
Fatdog64, Slacko and Puppeee user. Puppy user since 2.13.
Contributed Fatdog64 packages thread
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2114
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 06:30    Post subject: Fatdog64-620beta2  

I installed 620beta2 to an 8gb SDHC card (class 10 30MB/s) with the
small initrd option checked.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 19 Mar 2013 on Fatdog64 620 Linux 3.7.10 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: PARK 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.11.4
dimensions: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
OpenGL version string: 4.2.12002 Compatibility Profile Context 9.012
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Core 0: @1199 1: @1199 2: @1199 3: @1199 MHz
Atheros CommunicationsInc.AR928X Wireless Network Adapter(PCI-Express) (rev 01)
Linksys WUSB54GC 802.11g Adapter [ralink rt73]

I installed the ati driver pet from the fatdog package manager.
The builtin wireless adapter wasn't working well (wouldn't connect)
so I plugged in a linksys usb wireless adapter and it's working okay.
This install boots up fast, about 20 seconds to get to the desktop.
screenshot.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   45.1 KB
 Viewed   645 Time(s)

screenshot.jpg

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2114
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Fri 22 Mar 2013, 10:02    Post subject: Fatdog64-620beta2
Subject description: application launcher
 

I made a pet of a small utility named grun which is an application
launcher.
It creates a menu enter in the accessories section but I also dragged
/usr/bin/grun to the desktop and gave it the
/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/ok.xpm icon.
I find it to be a useful program.
grun-0.9.3-x86_64.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  grun-0.9.3-x86_64.pet 
Filesize  16.86 KB 
Downloaded  130 Time(s) 
grunscrn.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   22.15 KB
 Viewed   563 Time(s)

grunscrn.jpg

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
aragon

Joined: 15 Oct 2007
Posts: 1698
Location: Germany

PostPosted: Fri 22 Mar 2013, 10:14    Post subject:  

billtoo,

you might also want to look at

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmrun/

which is also a nice launcher with some advanced features.

aragon

_________________
PUPPY SEARCH: http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2114
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:37    Post subject: Fatdog64-620beta2
Subject description: deadbeef-0.5.6 music player
 

I made pets of Deadbeef-0.5.6 music player, both pets are needed.

The download link for deadbeef-0.5.6-x86_64.pet is:

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-c5463355.html

The download link for deadbeef_DEV-0.5.6-x86_64.pet is:

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-de158943.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
gcmartin

Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 4292
Location: Earth

PostPosted: Fri 22 Mar 2013, 15:50    Post subject: Using FATDOG in offline mode PPM wont show install history  

Removed .... Investigating this problem
_________________
Get ACTIVE Create Circles; Do those good things which benefit people's needs!
We are all related ... Its time to show that we know this!
3 Different Puppy Search Engine or use DogPile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 2183
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Sat 23 Mar 2013, 12:03    Post subject:  

Billtoo, thanks for the pets.

Actually Fatdog already comes with launcher like gmrun:
1. "lxpanelctl run" - this will open lxpanel's built-in launcher
2. "gexec" - quite similar to gmrun.

You can launch both of them from terminal (or create a symlink to the desktop), alternatively, "gexec" can be launched by pressing Alt-F2. This hotkey can be changed, in 620beta2 it is configured in sven (the little keyboard icon on the tray icon at bottom right of the screen). In earlier releases it can be configured by editing /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml.

cheers!

_________________
Fatdog64, Slacko and Puppeee user. Puppy user since 2.13.
Contributed Fatdog64 packages thread
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2114
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sat 23 Mar 2013, 23:01    Post subject: Fatdog64-620beta2
Subject description: emachines laptop
 

I installed 620b2 to an 8gb SDHC card while running the fatdog
installer from the live dvd.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 23 Mar 2013 on Fatdog64 620 Linux 3.7.10 x86_64
5.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M
[Radeon X1200 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS690 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.11.4
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.0.3
AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Core 0: @800 MHz
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)

I found that if installing to a SDHC card which is plugged into a usb
adapter the small initrd option is available, this laptop has no card
reader, but if installed to a card reader the small initrd option
isn't available.
Anyhow, this is working well, 620b2 is working really well on my
single core amd64 3300+ desktop as well.

EDIT: I did another install for this laptop but used a fast 60mb/s SDHC card this time, it is amazing, works great.
screenshot2.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   47.51 KB
 Viewed   404 Time(s)

screenshot2.jpg

screenshot.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   51.05 KB
 Viewed   416 Time(s)

screenshot.jpg


Last edited by Billtoo on Mon 25 Mar 2013, 01:56; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
aragon

Joined: 15 Oct 2007
Posts: 1698
Location: Germany

PostPosted: Sun 24 Mar 2013, 09:41    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Billtoo, thanks for the pets.

Actually Fatdog already comes with launcher like gmrun:
1. "lxpanelctl run" - this will open lxpanel's built-in launcher
2. "gexec" - quite similar to gmrun.

You can launch both of them from terminal (or create a symlink to the desktop), alternatively, "gexec" can be launched by pressing Alt-F2. This hotkey can be changed, in 620beta2 it is configured in sven (the little keyboard icon on the tray icon at bottom right of the screen). In earlier releases it can be configured by editing /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml.

cheers!


i think gmrun has some nice features, the others are missing. If you're interested, please look here for a nice 'intro': https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gmrun

aragon

_________________
PUPPY SEARCH: http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 7 of 9 [122 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.1011s ][ Queries: 12 (0.0073s) ][ GZIP on ]