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#631 Post by simargl »

I will leave http://alphaos.tuxfamily.org forum registration open today, if someone wants to join, then will disable it again to prevent spammers from registering or making comments.

anikin
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#632 Post by anikin »

Hi simargl,

Hope, you're doing well. I've done a quick test of alphaOS 9.0, mainly its startup routine. Will do some more testing and share my experience here later on. Both good and bad, in equal measure. In the meantime, I have a question, purely technical one: Can you apply the startup routine, as implemented in alphaOS to a classic puppy of your choice. So that, "xorgwizard" is taken out of the process, but leaving "quicksetup" intact. Can you make it happen?

Thank you in advance

simargl

#633 Post by simargl »

Hi, I think xorgwizard in Puppy is started from /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, and quicksetup from some script inside /root/Startup, so you can find xorgwizard there and comment that line to disable it. Every script from /root/Startup in original Puppy is executed when session is started, but that directory is not used here, instead of there is file /root/.start that sets background, tint2 panel, volume control and other programs on startup.

anikin
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#634 Post by anikin »

It's not that simple and the task is above my grade. The process is split into many parts, some moved to initrd, some to profile. Obfuscated, to say the least. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87662 I shouldn't have mentioned Quick setup as it is not related.

simargl

#635 Post by simargl »

There is new Openbox release 3.5.2
http://icculus.org/pipermail/openbox/20 ... 08158.html

3.5.2:
* Fix crash in theme rendering code, and in theme parsing code.
* Maximize windows without borders to fill the whole screen, don't leave
a one-pixel empty space. (Bug #5996)

3.5.1:
* New translations: Afrikaans, Belarusian, Interlingua, Hebrew, Romanian,
Greek.
* Updated translations: Italian, Serbian, Spanish, Czech, Hungarian, Turkish,
German, Arabic, Polish, Dutch, Lithuanian, Portuguese, Estonian.
* SVG icon support. This is optional, depending on librsvg being installed.
* Allow application rules to control window size with a new <size> tag.
* Allow application rules to pick a monitor for new windows without forcing
a position.
* Allow non-interactive focus cycling with a new <interactive> tag.
* New LeastOverlap window placement policy replaces the old default
behaviour. It finds a place on a given monitor that overlaps as few
windows as possible. Contributed by Ian Zimmerman.

* Improved Xinerama behaviour.
* Correctly interface with latest gnome-session for Gnome/Openbox X sessions.
* Allow third-party control of window opacity in compositing managers.
* Improved themeing options. Contributed by Dave Foster.
* Add <monitor>, <title type="regex">, <title type="exact"> and
<activedesktop> options to If action.
* Addresses bugs #4661, #5506, #5186, #5758, #5410, #5228, #5277, #5731,
#5746, #5737, #5419, #5721, #5711, #5385, #5500, #4992, #5443, #5518,
#5444, #4782, #5237, #5228, #5173, #5203, #5246, #5180, #5179, #5150,
#5132, #4937, #4889, #5253, #3769, #5819, #5811, #5081, #5426 among others.

simargl

#636 Post by simargl »

I installed new openbox package from

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/comm ... 6/openbox/

with
pacman -U --force openbox-3.5.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz

I don't like their new window placement choice, it looks like with some tiling window manager and it is too much robotic (better if they kept it random like before).

Window placement in previous version was perfect, now they have changed to worse.

Image

toppas
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Broadcom bcm4313

#637 Post by toppas »

Did anybody find a way to install additional broadcom wifi driver? i just can't get it working...

simargl

#638 Post by simargl »

The GNU C Library version 2.18 is now available

http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-announce/ ... 00000.html

Already in the Arch Testing repository https://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/i686/glibc/

Before they move it to the [core] repository, I think they will recompile all 6000 packages with this new glibc,

Than means Arch is still the most up-to-date, plus simple, fast and stable Linux distribution in the world.

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Re: Broadcom bcm4313

#639 Post by watchdog »

toppas wrote:Did anybody find a way to install additional broadcom wifi driver? i just can't get it working...
In AUR repository there is a package for linux-sta:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/broadcom-sta-dkms/

I ran the install script but I can't test the install because in alphaos the kernel does not recognize my hardware wireless' buttons... How to get working the hardware buttons of wireless?

EDIT: I made some progress. Successfully created the pkg from AUR but I need the source of the kernel 3.10.3-ALPHAOS to install and test by dkms the wl.ko driver. Can someone public the source of the kernel used in the last release of ALPHAOS?

Scooby
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Re: Broadcom bcm4313

#640 Post by Scooby »

watchdog wrote: EDIT: I made some progress. Successfully created the pkg from AUR but I need the source of the kernel 3.10.3-ALPHAOS to install and test by dkms the wl.ko driver. Can someone public the source of the kernel used in the last release of ALPHAOS?
I think the file linux_3.10.3_src.sfs is what you want. check https://sourceforge.net/projects/alphaos/files

The link to it is availible from first post in this thread
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84870

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Re: Broadcom bcm4313

#641 Post by watchdog »

Scooby wrote: I think the file linux_3.10.3_src.sfs is what you want. check https://sourceforge.net/projects/alphaos/files

The link to it is availible from first post in this thread
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84870
Many thanks. But I had not success. Doing:

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pacman -S dkms
building the package broadcom-sta-dkms from AUR by

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makepkg --asroot

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ln -s /lib/modules/3.10.3-ALPHAOS/build /usr/lib/modules/3.10.3-ALPHAOS/build

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pacman -U broadcom-sta-dkms-5.100.82.112-6-i686.pkg.tar.xz

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dkms install broadcom-sta/5.100.82.112-6
I have builded a wl.ko. But:

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insmod wl.ko
exits in:

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insmod: ERROR: could not insert module /usr/lib/modules/3.10.3-ALPHAOS/extramodules/wl.ko: Unknown symbol in module
EDIT: solved wireless connection. With BCM4312 ALPHAOS-9.0 works out of the box. I had only to unblock the hardware button with:

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rfkill unblock all
The compiled wl.ko does not work. I tried even to put in /root/.start:

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rmmod b43 &
rmmod ssb &
rmmod bcma &
rmmod wl &
modprobe lib80211 &
modprobe cfg80211 &
insmod /usr/lib/modules/3.10.3-ALPHAOS/extramodules/wl.ko

Scooby
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#642 Post by Scooby »

wmv files wont play in mplayer.

Tried installing codecs frompackage manager but still refuses to start

any ideas?

simargl

#643 Post by simargl »

That is strange because this is original mplayer2 package from Arch, it should play everything

I've tested and here wmv file plays correctly in gnome-mplayer

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Broadcom-sta wl driver

#644 Post by watchdog »

I have found the way to get working the compiled wl.ko driver on my machine. I created a shell script:

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#!/bin/sh
rmmod b43
rmmod ssb
rmmod bcma
rmmod wl
modprobe lib80211
modprobe cfg80211
insmod /root/my-documents/Downloads/wl.ko
sleep 10
rfkill unblock all
I run the shell script and then the compiled wl driver works. I uploaded the compiled wl.ko:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4U ... sp=sharing

Scooby
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#645 Post by Scooby »

simargl wrote: I've tested and here wmv file plays correctly in gnome-mplayer
So I fired up my old Window$, which I havent done for months :lol:
The file didnt play there either so I think it was corrupt somehow.

However it was the first of five files and three of the others played fine
in gnome-mplayer but not in smplayer!

I will have to re-download the files

simargl

#646 Post by simargl »

glibc 2.18 is now moved to the core repository, but packages depending directly on glibc,
are not recompiled, one example alsa-lib (See date of last update)
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/alsa-lib/

Reason, GNU C library is backward-compatible, but not forward-compatible.

API changes/compatibility report for the glibc library
http://upstream-tracker.org/versions/glibc.html

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1110 ... s-of-glibc

simargl

#647 Post by simargl »

I just discovered that Arch Rollback Machine site was removed yesterday, and that means
package manager in this system is no more functional on the way it was originally intended

Here is post from Arch Linux Forum,
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 8#p1313328

For now we can only wait and see what will happen, will there be another site with this kind of
service providing fixed date Arch packages, if not this project will need to be closed. I want to
make system based on fixed date, stable, not-rolling Arch packages, if that's not possible
I will not bother with something not good enough.

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#648 Post by Q5sys »

simargl wrote:I just discovered that Arch Rollback Machine site was removed yesterday, and that means
package manager in this system is no more functional on the way it was originally intended

Here is post from Arch Linux Forum,
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 8#p1313328

For now we can only wait and see what will happen, will there be another site with this kind of
service providing fixed date Arch packages, if not this project will need to be closed. I want to
make system based on fixed date, stable, not-rolling Arch packages, if that's not possible
I will not bother with something not good enough.
How much space/bandwidth would you need to host a local copy that your satisfied with? I realize it'd grow over time, but what do you think it'd take to start?
Depending on the amount... I may be able to help out.

simargl

#649 Post by simargl »

I don't know about size, but on Wiki they mention 20GB for packages as of July 2010,
divide that by 2 because we don't use 64-bit packages, than add couple of GB for packages
size increase over time..

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/De ... irror_size

My first thought was to ask permission on sourceforge to upload whole Arch repository there,
then I realized even if then approved it, my upload speed is not enough for that repository size.
Second idea is to re-base this on Frugalware or even Slitaz, but Frugalware adds useless
dependencies, they distribute system as DVD and don't care about iso size. Slitaz is nice and
small, but doesn't have KDE and Gnome applications.

Q5sys thank you for your offer, better we'll wait some more time, some of Arch users may be
interested in continuing ARM project.
---
How To fix pacman's mirror list after http://arm.konnichi.com was removed

1. go to https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core ... irrorlist/
2. download package
3. click to extract
4. open file mirrorlist
5. uncomment mirror that is close to your location
6. overwrite /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist with this file
7. type pacman -Sy

Scooby
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#650 Post by Scooby »

simargl wrote: Second idea is to re-base this on Frugalware or even Slitaz
Dont like the sound of that, I like the archbase.

But lets see wots coming, no haste right?

Your mirror solution will turn this into roll release?

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