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#76 Post by stifiling »

You really didn't have a reason to say my name. You created one. My name doesn't fit in that spot in your post. You made it fit. Like a square in a circle, it just don't fit right. Unless you KICK it in.

I think you owe me an apology. for accusing me of doing something i didn't do.

I wasn't rude to Puppy Linux or any of it's Developers.
I made a rude comment regarding someone's 'character' not their developing skills.
Furthermore...i decided to delete the rude post.

I guess because of the explosion in the last thread....I'm guilty of doing something. when i haven't done anything, except asked Barry a question.

I think you owe me an apology sc0ttman....

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#77 Post by rameshiyer »

Please provide user manual for alphaOS including command line operation. How to install software etc. Will Pacman work?

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#78 Post by john3voltas »

sc0ttman wrote:I dont see the problem with AlphaOS and simargls works etc...
Neither do I.
sc0ttman wrote:As long as it is made clear that despite using *some* of the Puppy Linux boot stuff, AlphaOS is NOT a proper puppy linux, and that it is a fork of puppy linux cos it is built using a different method, has a different setup etc, then i dont see the problem..
Sorry to say but I am not exactly sure about this paragraph.
Please, don't take my words wrong but what exactly is Puppy? Where is it's official definition? Is it this one?
http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20a ... tarted.htm
Because if it is, there is not much on that list that AlphaOS isn't right now.
I mean, usually official Puppies do bring some stuff that is not in AlphaOS but we're talking about some CLI tools that now have GTKDialog GUIs.
It shouldn't take an enormous amount of space to include them in an additional SFS should we need them.
But I do get your point: AlphaOS looks different, is setup different and is organized different than most Puppies so I guess it should have it's own murga thread so that questions about it don't go clogging the rest of the forum where discussion is usually about official puppies.
sc0ttman wrote:I do of course see why many long time users have been upset by some of the rude comments...
Yes, there have been some very negative remarks and comments, some even in this thread by the form of link to youtube videos.
I am not saying that people should be silenced and I don't want to reignite anything but we should always voice ourselves in polite manners.
If simargl, scooby or myself for that matter had ever referred to BarryK or Puppy in those manners we would have been immediately kicked out of here.
Never mind, hope it's all in the past now.
Cheers

simargl

#79 Post by simargl »

Version 2.0.0 available

see screenshot in first post, and change log here http://alphaos.freeforums.org/version-2-0-0-t16.html

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#80 Post by ally »

just waiting for the iso to become available

out of interest there is another puppy with gtk3 from jan 2012

214X-GTK3-alpha10.1.iso

:)

simargl

#81 Post by simargl »

ally wrote:just waiting for the iso to become available

out of interest there is another puppy with gtk3 from jan 2012

214X-GTK3-alpha10.1.iso

:)
Yes , you are right http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75588, but that has only 3 gtk3 applications included,
here everything except firefox uses Gtk3 - so I will leave title as is.

iso is now available!

Edit and off-topic: I's sorry, but this forum starts to look kinda boring

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#82 Post by musher0 »

The development file remains the same ?
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simargl

#83 Post by simargl »

Yes musher0, it's still the same.

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#84 Post by ally »

booting from lenovo t61

correctly configured display, sound and ethernet

startup music nice

would be useful to have a gui for locale, keyboard mapping though

:)

simargl

#85 Post by simargl »

ally wrote:booting from lenovo t61

correctly configured display, sound and ethernet

startup music nice

would be useful to have a gui for locale, keyboard mapping though

:)
Great! If you mean resolution is now OK, and other problems from here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 252#693252 are now solved?

xf86-input-synaptic package is new, probably that package missing caused problems before.

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#86 Post by ally »

hey simargl

no different machine (newer)

all apps I tried worked ok

:)

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#87 Post by musher0 »

What am I doing wrong? :oops: Should I press a key during boot to get the proper X display ?
This is my set-up (from inxi):
Machine: System: ASUS product: A7V400-MX version: 1.03 serial: 123456789000
Mobo: ASUSTek model: A7V400-MX version: 1.03 serial: 123456789000
Bios: Phoenix version: ASUS A7V400-MX 1009 date: 12/21/2004
CPU: Single core (AMD Athlon XP 2600+,1908.926,512 KB,fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8
apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
up,3819.92,amd) (-UP-) cache: unknown flags: (-) clocked at MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI R250 If [Radeon 9000]
X.org: 1.12.4 driver: radeon tty size: 129x72 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card: VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97
Audio Controller driver: snd_via82xx
Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network: Card: VIA VT6102 [Rhine-II] driver: via-rhine
Drives: HDD Total Size: (1120.2GB,14.2% used) ()
1: id: /dev/sda model: ST31000528AS size: 1000.2GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD1200AB size: 120.0GB
Is it compatible with alphaOS? I had the same problem with alphaOS v. 1.0.

Thanks in advance.

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#88 Post by session »

musher0, you're not the only one; same screen on my Rage 128
[color=green]Primary[/color] - Intel Pentium 4 2.40GHz, 571MB RAM, ATI Radeon 7000. Linux Mint 17 Qiana installed.
[color=blue]Secondary[/color] - Pentium 3 533MHz, 385MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TF. Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro full install.

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#89 Post by simargl »

Hex musher0, I don't think you're doing anything wrong

This is issue probably caused by missing xf86-video-ati package - assumed that error appears before Xorg should start, not right on startup

following xorg video drivers are included:
xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.3-3.spkg
xf86-video-intel-2.21.3-1.spkg
xf86-video-nv-2.1.20-3.spkg
xf86-video-vesa-2.3.2-2.spkg

I thought this generic vesa driver would work for everyone...

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#90 Post by rameshiyer »

Dear Simargl.

My humble request is to include Pacman also in alphaos. This is very easy to use and a versatile package handler. Moreover, powerful also. I like it very much. Others also having same opinion.

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#91 Post by musher0 »

simargl wrote:Hex musher0, I don't think you're doing anything wrong

This is issue probably caused by missing xf86-video-ati package - assumed that error appears before Xorg should start, not right on startup

following xorg video drivers are included:
xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.3-3.spkg
xf86-video-intel-2.21.3-1.spkg
xf86-video-nv-2.1.20-3.spkg
xf86-video-vesa-2.3.2-2.spkg

I thought this generic vesa driver would work for everyone...
Thanks, simagil, for reassuring me (and thanks also to "session"). I'll have to wait for the next version, I guess!

Anyway, keep up the good work! :)

BFN.

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#92 Post by simargl »

rameshiyer wrote:Dear Simargl.

My humble request is to include Pacman also in alphaos. This is very easy to use and a versatile package handler. Moreover, powerful also. I like it very much. Others also having same opinion.
It's not possible to include pacman because it would be broken, and I believe that every OS
should have just one package manager. Just try spkg -a pkgname, and it will convert PKGBUILD
from Arch repository or from AUR, to def script; compiling new package is so easy that way.

simargl

#93 Post by simargl »

musher0,

if you are interested to test xf86-video-ati package (unsquash one of two main sfs, add that package files and compress sfs again) -
let me know I'll make and upload package somewhere , that is not hard to do.

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#94 Post by darkcity »

simargl wrote:
rameshiyer wrote:Dear Simargl.

My humble request is to include Pacman also in alphaos. This is very easy to use and a versatile package handler. Moreover, powerful also. I like it very much. Others also having same opinion.
It's not possible to include pacman because it would be broken, and I believe that every OS
should have just one package manager. Just try spkg -a pkgname, and it will convert PKGBUILD
from Arch repository or from AUR, to def script; compiling new package is so easy that way.
It would be nice to have a little example walk thru on how to take a 'pacman' package and make it an alpha-package.

When Alpha loads additional SFSs does it update the list of packages installed?

simargl

#95 Post by simargl »

Qt4 package is compiling, and expect it soon to appear in the repository 8)

darkcity,

How to install Arch package in Alpha OS?

- script called paka used for making ArchPup is still here in Alpha, so you can install
any Arch package from any date. package is first converted to spkg format and then installed:

1) (optional) open /usr/bin/paka and change date if you want (default date="2013/03/18")

2) type: paka -Syu. This will make packages list

3) Search for package: paka -Ss pkgname

4) Convert and install package: paka -S fullpackagename

5) Convert but do not install package:paka -Sd fullpackagename

Important: Script does not resolve dependencies, and 2nd argument must be full package name

This is for directly installing Arch packages, I prefer to convert PKGBUILD to def and then compile package in Alpha OS,

although sometimes it only make sense to use Arch packages. For example gparted in Alpha is just converted Arch package

as compiling whole gtkmm, glibmm, cairomm.... for just one program would be ridiculous.


How to convert PKGBUILD from Arch to compatible def script?

spkg -a pkgname

Conversion is very good but not perfect; for example package function may require editing and package category is always set to development.

This works for ALL Arch packages, for those in official repositories and also for AUR https://aur.archlinux.org/

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