gcmartin wrote:Sound off to 2 members in this thread.
I find the "damaging" statements made here by both @Starhawk and re-iterated by @Q5sys about 01Micko's distro, totally out of line.
I didnt make a single comment about 01Micko's distro. I made a comment about not understanding why you needed to post an announcement when 01Micko had already posted an thread about Phatslacko. I also commented about how I thought it could lead to confusion since people could accidently think that YOU had created this release. Starhawk confirmed that he made this mistake briefly.
Apparently you agreed since you went back and edited your original post to be clear that 01Micko was the developer.
There's nothing Damaging, insulting, or otherwise negative about anything regarding 01Micko or Phatslacko at all.
The only thing in my post that could have been considered negative would have been directed to you, and revolving around you posting a secondary announcement which created confusion on the forum for at least one user.
After Starhawk made a comment about wondering if you had ever released a puppy release, since you obviously read his post and understood it... shown by you editing your original post; you choose not to address his comment. Since the comment was still in the open. I felt it deserved an answer. I stated that what I was about to say was to the best of my ability and I hoped if I was wrong you'd correct me.
The rest of my comment about you not developing for the puppy community have to do with your comments that you have made on this forum.
You have made the following comments
Heregcmartin wrote:I have installed and setup data-centers for the past 25 years.
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heregcmartin wrote:But, if you are suggesting that this exploit is being used against someone of us in LH64, I disagree. (As someone who has been in OS development and systems operations for the past 40 years!)
You made those comments, not me. My opinion is that
if you are someone with that much experience and knowledge then I would hope you would be helping development, instead of simply telling others what you think they should be doing. That's my personal opinion about you and again... has nothing to do with 01micko, or any of his Puppy Linux releases. If your knowledge spans 4 decades of OS Development experience... then you should clearly know ALOT more than everything than us. So if thats true... why arent you helping the puppy linux community and putting that os development experience to work?
So trying to skew my comments against 01Micko, is completely and utterly wrong. And I believe, and attempt to try to make me and Starhawk out to be bad guys. Since we weren't talking about 01Micko at all, I hope reasonable and rational people will see that you are trying to taint our comments to mean somethind they did not.
gcmartin wrote:01Micko has provided this community many years of very good product and services. Further, one of his distros, namely FATSlacko (version 1) and PhatSlacko (version 2) are aimed at an 32bit audience where there can be an EXTREMELY rewarding experience. These are very stellar productions that do what it claims to do, is stable, robust, and fast in the Puppy tradition. There is NOTHING of issue of concern regarding his works. Further, he is very good about articulating the machines he has targeted his work and what his testing has demonstrated to work. Lastly his distro's thread bears out the goodness of what he has done for this community.
Yes, 01Micko is a great developer. I've immensely enjoyed his work and he has helped me out on several occasions. However my comments regarding your post and your non-willingless to put your decades of OS development experience to work in the puppy linux community has nothing to do with 01Micko. I cant speak for him... but I'm sure 01micko would appreciate some of that experience of yours as well.
gcmartin wrote:Even other members in this thread attempt to share good correcting information to the both of you, and neither of you take the time to remove the offensive gesture that you aim at his work. The information here intends to be useful to those who come here from a Window/Apple community for the very first time, with little Linux experience. His distro appears to be aimed squarely for anyone without prior knowledge to get a jump start in use of his work on any of their home LAN PCs that it is installed on.
There have only been 2 other users posting in this thread. James C who posted the link to 01Mickos thread about PHATSlacko, and darkcity who said it looks like a good release. James C's post was before mine... so his comment couldn't have been correcting in the least. ANd Darkcitys comment was about Phatslacko which I was not commenting on. So neither of them made any comment to what I was speaking about.
And again... my comments were not directed towards 01micko or Phatslacko at all... so they were not 'offensive gestures aimed at his work'.
gcmartin wrote:I believe your behavior shameful and ask, respectfully, that you edit your statements to reflect good information about 01Micko's contribution.
I will remove any negative comment about 01Micko's work. Oh wait... I didnt make any, all my comments were about your actions. So I guess I wont be editing any of my comments.
gcmartin wrote:His product is robust, stable, and an overall simple and easy to use distro, out-of-the-box (OOTB). The community hails itself of producing 'stellar' distros for user consumption. His work on each of these was accomplished after his witnessing the stability of Slacko and adding additional ease of use subsystems for general user services in his extending that into FATSlacko (2012) and PhatSlacko (2013).
Many, in his threads, on both Slacko and PhatSlacko find good wholesome "value" is his work.
Yes, but this has nothing to do with what I previously posted.
gcmartin wrote:The fact that you may possess PC(s) that cannot use this offering or find no value in what is offered, is no reason to cast the damaging comments you present.
That's not a fact at all. It's a wildely spoken opinion of yours. I do own 32bit PCs. I've tested Slacko many times and posted lots of performance evaluation about it. Also, since all 32bit Slacko releases can run on 64bit processors, I can run Slacko on every computer I own. So you're comment here is completely invalid and incorrect.
gcmartin wrote:Should you find it appropriate to re-edit your statements and restatements referring that somehow his distro has something tainted built-in, I will leave this post as it stands.
If you correct your posts (plural), I will remove this entry referencing your bad behavior from this thread. But I will not retract this when there stands an apparent misguided "damnation" of a great offering bringing good value to this community.
Can you please point to a single comment that I made where I refer to "that somehow his distro has something tainted built-in"? I would love to know where I made such a comment. Please show it to me. You have made the comment that I have made such a statement, I now ask you to point to the exact words I said. I would also like you to show me where I made comments that were 'damnation' of 01micko or his work.
gcmartin wrote:Here to help
Im really starting to doubt that.
gcmartin wrote:There can be no confusion as the Opening Post is clear is steering readers to his productions.
I think it helpful for any one of us to post infomation in such a way as to make it easy to get to very good designs.
In re-reading the Opening Post, others and myself find it unclear how anyone could have concluded otherwise. Or be confused of what this is trying to impart in understanding.
This is a very very good distro. And like other distros released in this community, there are issues that tend to surface after availability to the community.
Since you have gone back and edited your original post... our comments seem invalid. I've noticed that this is a common trend of yours. You make a comment then when someone calls you out on it... you go back and change your post. I guess you do this so that others comments seem hostile or rude. However the comments were VERY valid when they were originally made before you went back and changed your post. The same is true of this thread. Stop changing your posts afterwords. You seem to love to do so.
I've even caught you doing it before.
It is completely pathetic that I (and possibly others) are going to have to start saving local copies of all your posts so when you change them the community can still see what you originally said.
Since you somehow misdirected my comments about you to 01Micko... I'll make sure you know this is towards
you and no one else.
gcmartin,
Since I know you love to edit your posts after someone replies so that you can make their comment look different than it was intended... please be aware that your posts have been screencapped and placed
HERE. There they will remain so if you make any further edits to your posts, people will be able to see what your posts were and what my comments were in relationto. I have also included screencaps of your comments in the threads that I referenced as well in case you were thinking of going back and editing them.
I'm also aware that you like to request threads be deleted by the Mods after you start lashing out at people. I'm certain that you will probably do this again. If you do, so be it... I will continue to retain my screencaps and host them freely for anyone in the community to read. These threads belong to the community, NOT to one person.
EDIT: I fixed some spelling typos