Hi everybody,
Time to come clean.
shuvvoff is my account. It was first used
here when I was having trouble with my account which turned out to be a forum bug. I created that name mainly because my wireless network got hacked by a neighbour and I used it as my access point once I found him. He didn't get anything, maybe a few K of bandwidth. Anyway, seemed like a good name to use when seemingly my forum account was compromised.
I only used it in these instances for a bit of fun, no malice intended, but if I had of posted as 01micko I'm sure there would have been more controversy drawn to
puppyluvr's thread.
Firstly, lets address archpup.
Barry created woof, the successor to puppy unleashed. His intention was to create a "magical script" that could use the binary packages of another distro yet still maintain all the characteristics that make puppy. His first attempt was with Ubuntu Intrepid. A "99 MB" ubuntu. At around the same time Barry added support for Arch, Debian and Slackware to woof.
The version of woof that built the first arch pup is long dead and buried. In fact, it was advertised by Barry as used for building slack pup. See
here. Woof was in alpha stage and arch puppy was more or less POC (Proof of Concept). Despite that, it built and ran fine and the resulting iso is the one which James C posted. It is mainly for historical reasons and is not intended for everyday use. That said, anyone can use it and modify it if it runs well on their hardware. I did not upload this iso image at the time, I wasn't a developer then and am only now thanks to the push by Lobster and the lack of a successor to Lupu. Barry was busy with other stuff and didn't release an official puppy for quite awhile so I ran with the ball and brought spup, aka Slacko up to release standard. This was after extensively helping
playdayz with Lupu, the first woof built official puppy not released by Barry. WhoDo did relese Puppy-4.20 and 4.21 but these were not woof builds. They used unleashed.
You can see evidence of my involvement with early Arch Puppy development in the post reference by
here (scroll down the arch forum post link). It was problems like very large packages that pushed me to spup so I discontinued my Arch experiment. Barry is still experiencing this today, see
Barry's blog.
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Now for some OT
This is somewhat of attempt to clear the air.
I made a post
here that ignited some flames.
Let me explain. I have been a long time colaborator with
mavrothal in relation to OLPC and
xo-pup. It seemed mavrothal was a bit peeved and I reacted. Probably not a good decision in retrospect, however there were a lot of archpup threads popping up in what I thought strange places. It was not my intention to diss
simargl's Archpup at all. In fact I think is a great idea with an unfortunate naming clash. There was no malice intended, just to point out that Barry had already delved into arch based puppy and that a distro is more or less defined by it's package management system which in my eyes made simargl's Archpup more Arch with Puppy flavour rather than Puppy with Arch flavour. Lesson learned, don't post when pissed off!
simargl, as for stealing your ideas as referenced
here, I was aware that your Archpup is using Adrive technology, however I was completely unaware that you were a contributing developer. As far as I know, it was jemimah's concept implemented in Saluki modified by mavrothal. If this is wrong I will credit you on the first page of the PHATSlacko thread. I was also unaware of your method to unpack packages and put them in an sfs. This, I thought, was not a new idea and I created a rough script called
alien2puppy based on others' work with some of my own ideas, which incidentally is a bit broken, but hey it was posted awhile ago and I was just beginning. The script I posted for
rek769 only adds the package list description, which I have since modified to express in PPM format.
And a death
wish? No way! Never made one of those in my life, and if I were to, it wouldn't be a wish. I used "bitter end" as a figure of speech. I don't care if you don't like me. I don't care if you think I'm a poor developer. (I am actually a
learning developer). One thing I am
not is a wisher of such bad and a hater. No way again!
Have a long life and every success in your pursuits simargl. There you go. That clarifies that. Good luck with alphaOS.
Please supply a civilised response if you decide to respond. I'm sure James wont mind. I don't care if you are critical of me, I can take it
.
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NB: The Arch pup posted in the main post by James C was mainly supplied for Puppy historical purposes.
