Synaptics Touchpad no right click (FIXED)

[markreaves]

EDIT: This issue has been fixed. The solution was in the post linked below. If you have a touchpad/clickpad and it doesn't fix it, read the entire thread as many things are covered.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 425#694425

I've spent the last two days trying to fix my touchpad so that I can use the right click. So far no luck.

I have tried solutions found on this forum and solutions found on Ubuntu forums (Using puppy precise). Nothing seems to be working. I don't know what else to do besides ask for help.

Details:
* HP Mini 210-1010NR
* Puppy Precise
* Touchpad works fine in all ways except right click and scrolling
* I don't care if scrolling gets fixed, just need right click to work
* I'm having to use a USB mouse currently since one needs right click

Results of: grep -iEA9 -B1 "Synaptics|Alps|Elantech|touch" /proc/bus/input/devices:

I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0007 Version=01b1
N: Name="SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
P: Phys=isa0060/serio1/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input1
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=mouse0 event1
B: PROP=d
B: EV=b
B: KEY=6420 0 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
B: ABS=2608000 11000003

EDIT: I attempted to try this patch that supposedly works but could not get dkms working right so the patch failed to compile.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... st12246443

Anyone know how to get dkms working with puppy or get that patch compiled for puppy?

[Semme]

Mark- you may have a section like this in your xorg.conf.

Adjust the max tap *time* here to 220 and restart X.

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Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
	Driver "synaptics"
	Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
	Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
	Option "LeftEdge" "1700"
	Option "RightEdge" "5300"
	Option "TopEdge" "1700"
	Option "BottomEdge" "4200"
	Option "FingerLow" "25"
	Option "FingerHigh" "30"
	Option "MaxTapTime" "220"
	Option "MaxTapMove" "220"
	Option "VertScrollDelta" "100"
	Option "MinSpeed" "0.10"
	Option "MaxSpeed" "0.30"
	Option "AccelFactor" "0.0030"
	Option "SHMConfig" "on"
	#Option "Repeater" "/dev/ps2mouse"
EndSection

[Semme]

Now that I've seen the thread you've referenced, just confirm you grabbed the right pkg for your Pup?

Considering it's a driver you're trying to compile, you *must have* the corresponding src-pkg loaded..

I've seen this in place prior to patching..

Create /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf and save with the following:

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options psmouse proto=exps

==

Another possibility.. This and the posts that follow..

==

Same thread- these preceed the above..

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ost9250735

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ost9516270

==

Ask Ubuntu!

[markreaves]

Now that I've seen the thread you've referenced, just confirm you grabbed the right pkg for your Pup?

Considering it's a driver you're trying to compile, you *must have* the corresponding src-pkg loaded..

I've seen this in place prior to patching..

Create /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf and save with the following:

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options psmouse proto=exps

==

Another possibility.. This and the posts that follow..

==

Same thread- these preceed the above..

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ost9250735

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ost9516270

==

Ask Ubuntu!

I thank you for trying to help but none of these fix right clicking

As for the dkms issues, this is what I get:

rpm: invalid option -- '-'
BusyBox v1.19.3 (2011-11-09 07:34:50 WST) multi-call binary.

Usage: rpm -i PACKAGE.rpm; rpm -qp[ildc] PACKAGE.rpm

Manipulate RPM packages

Commands:
-i Install package
-qp Query package
-i Show information
-l List contents
-d List documents
-c List config files

rpm: invalid option -- '-'
BusyBox v1.19.3 (2011-11-09 07:34:50 WST) multi-call binary.

Usage: rpm -i PACKAGE.rpm; rpm -qp[ildc] PACKAGE.rpm

Manipulate RPM packages

Commands:
-i Install package
-qp Query package
-i Show information
-l List contents
-d List documents
-c List config files

rpm: invalid option -- '-'
BusyBox v1.19.3 (2011-11-09 07:34:50 WST) multi-call binary.

Usage: rpm -i PACKAGE.rpm; rpm -qp[ildc] PACKAGE.rpm

Manipulate RPM packages

Commands:
-i Install package
-qp Query package
-i Show information
-l List contents
-d List documents
-c List config files

rpm: invalid option -- '-'
BusyBox v1.19.3 (2011-11-09 07:34:50 WST) multi-call binary.

Usage: rpm -i PACKAGE.rpm; rpm -qp[ildc] PACKAGE.rpm

Manipulate RPM packages

Commands:
-i Install package
-qp Query package
-i Show information
-l List contents
-d List documents
-c List config files

It tries to build module but fails and says see make.log but can't seem to find such a log so unsure exact error. NOTE: dkms installed from Ubuntu repo since could not find a native puppy package.

[Semme]

That you said nothing there worked didn't sound too convincing.

Is the 5.5 kernel 3.2.29 or 3.2.0.29 (uname -r)?

Did you install the deps alongside dkms_2.2.0.3-1ubuntu3.1_all.deb?

The output you have there you got from what?

[markreaves]

That you said nothing there worked didn't sound too convincing.

Is the 5.5 kernel 3.2.29 or 3.2.0.29 (uname -r)?

Did you install the deps alongside dkms_2.2.0.3-1ubuntu3.1_all.deb?

The output you have there you got from what?

Kernel version 3.2.29

I believe I got all the deps installed to dkms

The output was from whenever dkms was run. It would spout all that.

On a side note I did get this netbooks touchpad working with an older puppy but on that older puppy I couldn't get the wifi working. On this newer puppy (precise) the wifi appears to work but the touchpad doesn't want to work right. Also to note it is not an inherent issue with puppy as this touchpad acts exactly the same on Ubuntu. However on Ubuntu there was a deb package that fixed it. Same deb package doesn't fix it on puppy.

[linuxcbon]

Then you can try a newer version racy 5.5. Feedback welcomed.
If racy 5.5 doesn't work neither, the best is to report to bug forum : http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84748

[markreaves]

Then you can try a newer version racy 5.5. Feedback welcomed.
If racy 5.5 doesn't work neither, the best is to report to bug forum : http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84748

Running from Racy 5,5 and still no right click on touchpad. Will try to report it as a bug then.

[linuxcbon]

Thanks. When reporting bug, please give specs and many details, so it can be fixed quickly.

[npierce]

Let's see what version of the driver you have in X, and what some of the settings are. Please post the output from this command:

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grep -A 1 -i synaptics /var/log/Xorg.0.log

[markreaves]

Let's see what version of the driver you have in X, and what some of the settings are. Please post the output from this command:

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grep -A 1 -i synaptics /var/log/Xorg.0.log

NOTE: When running this command I also am using a USB mouse (unsure if it makes a difference or not). Also running Puppy Precise.

[ 43.788] (**) |-->Input Device "Synaptics Mouse"
[ 43.788] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
--
[ 43.799] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[ 43.805] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[ 43.834] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 43.834] compiled for 1.11.3, module version = 1.6.2
--
[ 43.984] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[ 43.985] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[ 43.985] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 43.985] compiled for 1.11.3, module version = 1.6.2
--
[ 45.368] (II) Using input driver 'synaptics' for 'Synaptics Mouse'
[ 45.368] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[ 45.368] (**) Option "AlwaysCore"
[ 45.368] (**) Synaptics Mouse: always reports core events
[ 45.368] (**) Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
[ 46.476] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event1
[ 46.510] (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event1"
[ 46.510] (II) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: ignoring touch events for semi-multitouch device
[ 46.510] (II) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: found clickpad property
[ 46.510] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: x-axis range 1472 - 5492
[ 46.510] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: y-axis range 1408 - 4556
[ 46.510] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: pressure range 0 - 255
[ 46.510] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: finger width range 0 - 15
[ 46.510] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: buttons: left double triple
[ 46.510] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: Vendor 0x2 Product 0x7
[ 46.510] (**) Option "SHMConfig" "on"
--
[ 46.511] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: touchpad found
[ 46.511] (**) Synaptics Mouse: always reports core events
[ 46.536] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Synaptics Mouse" (type: TOUCHPAD, id 6)
[ 46.537] (**) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: (accel) MinSpeed is now constant deceleration 10.0
[ 46.537] (**) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: MaxSpeed is now 3.00
[ 46.537] (**) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: AccelFactor is now 0.003
[ 46.537] (**) Synaptics Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[ 46.537] (**) Synaptics Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 1
[ 46.537] (**) Synaptics Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[ 46.537] (**) Synaptics Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[ 46.538] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: touchpad found
[ 46.538] (II) Using input driver 'mouse' for 'Mouse0'

[npierce]

OK, it has version 1.6.2, which I think should support the clickpad. And I see
"found clickpad property", so that looks hopeful.

Now let's see if the button areas have been set up. What do you get for these commands?:

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synclient -V
synclient -l | grep -i ButtonArea

(Having the mouse connected is OK. It shouldn't interfere with these commands or the previous command.)

[markreaves]

OK, it has version 1.6.2, which I think should support the clickpad. And I see
"found clickpad property", so that looks hopeful.

Now let's see if the button areas have been set up. What do you get for these commands?:

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synclient -V
synclient -l | grep -i ButtonArea

(Having the mouse connected is OK. It shouldn't interfere with these commands or the previous command.)

1.6.2
and

RightButtonAreaLeft = 0
RightButtonAreaRight = 0
RightButtonAreaTop = 0
RightButtonAreaBottom = 0
MiddleButtonAreaLeft = 0
MiddleButtonAreaRight = 0
MiddleButtonAreaTop = 0
MiddleButtonAreaBottom = 0

[npierce]

It looks like your right button area has not been set. Try this:

Make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then edit it as follows:

Look for a section that begins like this:

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Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
	Driver "synaptics"

There may or may not already be some options listed there.

Add these options before the EndSection line:

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	Option "ClickPad"         "true"
	Option "SoftButtonAreas"  "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"

Then restart the X server.

[markreaves]

It looks like your right button area has not been set. Try this:

Make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then edit it as follows:

Look for a section that begins like this:

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Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
	Driver "synaptics"

There may or may not already be some options listed there.

Add these options before the EndSection line:

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	Option "ClickPad"         "true"
	Option "SoftButtonAreas"  "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"

Then restart the X server.

Well that seemed to fix the lack of scrolling but right click worked once after restart of X then stopped working :-\ Getting closer to a fix though lol

[Semme]

NPierce, these are my *comfortably working* (528) touchpad settings..

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Parameter settings:
    LeftEdge                = 1700
    RightEdge               = 5300
    TopEdge                 = 1700
    BottomEdge              = 4200
    FingerLow               = 25
    FingerHigh              = 30
    FingerPress             = 255
    MaxTapTime              = 220
    MaxTapMove              = 220
    MaxDoubleTapTime        = 180
    SingleTapTimeout        = 180
    ClickTime               = 100
    FastTaps                = 0
    EmulateMidButtonTime    = 75
    EmulateTwoFingerMinZ    = 280
    EmulateTwoFingerMinW    = 7
    VertScrollDelta         = 122
    HorizScrollDelta        = 122
    VertEdgeScroll          = 1
    HorizEdgeScroll         = 0
    CornerCoasting          = 0
    VertTwoFingerScroll     = 1
    HorizTwoFingerScroll    = 0
    MinSpeed                = 0.1
    MaxSpeed                = 0.43
    AccelFactor             = 0.0035
    TrackstickSpeed         = 40
    EdgeMotionMinZ          = 29
    EdgeMotionMaxZ          = 159
    EdgeMotionMinSpeed      = 1
    EdgeMotionMaxSpeed      = 401
    EdgeMotionUseAlways     = 0
    UpDownScrolling         = 1
    LeftRightScrolling      = 1
    UpDownScrollRepeat      = 1
    LeftRightScrollRepeat   = 1
    ScrollButtonRepeat      = 100
    TouchpadOff             = 0
    GuestMouseOff           = 0
    LockedDrags             = 0
    LockedDragTimeout       = 5000
    RTCornerButton          = 2
    RBCornerButton          = 3
    LTCornerButton          = 0
    LBCornerButton          = 0
    TapButton1              = 1
    TapButton2              = 3
    TapButton3              = 2
    ClickFinger1            = 1
    ClickFinger2            = 1
    ClickFinger3            = 2
    CircularScrolling       = 0
    CircScrollDelta         = 0.1
    CircScrollTrigger       = 0
    CircularPad             = 0
    PalmDetect              = 0
    PalmMinWidth            = 10
    PalmMinZ                = 199
    CoastingSpeed           = 0
    PressureMotionMinZ      = 29
    PressureMotionMaxZ      = 159
    PressureMotionMinFactor = 1
    PressureMotionMaxFactor = 1
    GrabEventDevice         = 1
    TapAndDragGesture       = 1
    AreaLeftEdge            = 0
    AreaRightEdge           = 0
    AreaTopEdge             = 0
    AreaBottomEdge          = 0
    JumpyCursorThreshold    = 0

[npierce]

Sorry that I didn't have time to get back to this yesterday.


Semme,

Thanks for posting your *comfortably working* touchpad settings.

It appears that markreaves has what is known as a "clickpad", which is a touchpad with a single button beneath it that the user clicks by pressing on the lower edge of the touchpad itself -- like Mac notebooks have had for a few years. For PCs, there are "button areas" marked on the touchpad, and since there is only one mechanical button, the touchpad is used to sense the location of the user's finger to determine which button is desired.

The driver needs to know where those "button areas" are on the touchpad; if they are undefined, any click will just be interpreted as a left-click. So additional options are needed (like "SoftButtonAreas") so that the driver will support the clickpad. Support for clickpads is still fairly new, being added to the Xorg Synaptics driver and X Server only last year.


markreaves,

Now that you have added the options to xorg.conf, try

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synclient -l | grep -i ButtonArea

again to see if you now get values other than zero for RightButtonAreaLeft and RightButtonAreaTop.

If you still get all zeros, we'll need to figure out what went wrong.

If the button areas were defined properly, but the right button is still not working, it is possible the 1.11.3 version X Server you have doesn't properly support clickpads. I found this statement from Peter Hutterer, the guy that supports the Synaptics driver for Xorg:

Clickpad support requires server 1.12 . . .

But in a footnote he adds:

Ubuntu 12.04 will ship a 1.11/1.12 mix, that will work as well

So if Puppy Precise is using the same version of the X Server as Ubuntu Precise, then your X Server should be OK. Of course, we should note that he used the future tense, ". . . will work as well", which means that was just a theory, as yet untested when he wrote it.

I'm not sure, but I think the X Server in the Puppy Racy 5.5 that you tested may be even older than the one in Puppy Precise 5.5. But I believe Puppy Slacko 5.5 has a real 1.12 version X Server (1.12.3). So testing Puppy Slacko 5.5 might prove enlightening. You might still have to add the options to its xorg.conf file.


By the way, the full post by Peter Hutterer is worth reading:

Who-T: ClickPad support in the synaptics driver

He also has a follow-up:

Who-T: Clickpad kernel bugs in 3.3.x and 3.4

[markreaves]

The result of "synclient -l | grep -i ButtonArea" is still all zeros. :-\

Sorry that I didn't have time to get back to this yesterday.


Semme,

Thanks for posting your *comfortably working* touchpad settings.

It appears that markreaves has what is known as a "clickpad", which is a touchpad with a single button beneath it that the user clicks by pressing on the lower edge of the touchpad itself -- like Mac notebooks have had for a few years. For PCs, there are "button areas" marked on the touchpad, and since there is only one mechanical button, the touchpad is used to sense the location of the user's finger to determine which button is desired.

The driver needs to know where those "button areas" are on the touchpad; if they are undefined, any click will just be interpreted as a left-click. So additional options are needed (like "SoftButtonAreas") so that the driver will support the clickpad. Support for clickpads is still fairly new, being added to the Xorg Synaptics driver and X Server only last year.


markreaves,

Now that you have added the options to xorg.conf, try

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synclient -l | grep -i ButtonArea

again to see if you now get values other than zero for RightButtonAreaLeft and RightButtonAreaTop.

If you still get all zeros, we'll need to figure out what went wrong.

If the button areas were defined properly, but the right button is still not working, it is possible the 1.11.3 version X Server you have doesn't properly support clickpads. I found this statement from Peter Hutterer, the guy that supports the Synaptics driver for Xorg:

Clickpad support requires server 1.12 . . .

But in a footnote he adds:

Ubuntu 12.04 will ship a 1.11/1.12 mix, that will work as well

So if Puppy Precise is using the same version of the X Server as Ubuntu Precise, then your X Server should be OK. Of course, we should note that he used the future tense, ". . . will work as well", which means that was just a theory, as yet untested when he wrote it.

I'm not sure, but I think the X Server in the Puppy Racy 5.5 that you tested may be even older than the one in Puppy Precise 5.5. But I believe Puppy Slacko 5.5 has a real 1.12 version X Server (1.12.3). So testing Puppy Slacko 5.5 might prove enlightening. You might still have to add the options to its xorg.conf file.


By the way, the full post by Peter Hutterer is worth reading:

Who-T: ClickPad support in the synaptics driver

He also has a follow-up:

Who-T: Clickpad kernel bugs in 3.3.x and 3.4

[npierce]

. . . but right click worked once after restart of X then stopped working . . .

By "once", do you mean one single click, or did it work for awhile before it stopped working?

Let's have another look at Xorg.0.log, to see if there were errors when X configured the button area. Please post the output from this command:

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grep -A 1 -i synaptics /var/log/Xorg.0.log

And to see how xorg.conf configures the driver, please post the output from this command:

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awk '$1 == "Driver" && $2 == ""synaptics"", $1 == "EndSection"' /etc/X11/xorg.conf

[markreaves]

. . . but right click worked once after restart of X then stopped working . . .

By "once", do you mean one single click, or did it work for awhile before it stopped working?

The right click menu showed once (one time) after I had applied that. Hasn't since.

Let's have another look at Xorg.0.log, to see if there were errors when X configured the button area. Please post the output from this command:

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grep -A 1 -i synaptics /var/log/Xorg.0.log

[ 46.106] (**) |-->Input Device "Synaptics Mouse"
[ 46.106] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
--
[ 46.118] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[ 46.123] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[ 46.152] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.152] compiled for 1.11.3, module version = 1.6.2
--
[ 46.297] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[ 46.298] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[ 46.298] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.298] compiled for 1.11.3, module version = 1.6.2
--
[ 47.568] (II) Using input driver 'synaptics' for 'Synaptics Mouse'
[ 47.568] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[ 47.568] (**) Option "AlwaysCore"
[ 47.568] (**) Synaptics Mouse: always reports core events
[ 47.568] (**) Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
[ 48.796] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event1
[ 48.833] (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event1"
[ 48.833] (II) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: ignoring touch events for semi-multitouch device
[ 48.833] (II) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: found clickpad property
[ 48.833] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: x-axis range 1472 - 5492
[ 48.833] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: y-axis range 1408 - 4556
[ 48.833] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: pressure range 0 - 255
[ 48.833] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: finger width range 0 - 15
[ 48.833] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: buttons: left double triple
[ 48.833] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: Vendor 0x2 Product 0x7
[ 48.834] (**) Option "SHMConfig" "on"
--
[ 48.834] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: touchpad found
[ 48.834] (**) Synaptics Mouse: always reports core events
[ 48.856] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Synaptics Mouse" (type: TOUCHPAD, id 6)
[ 48.857] (**) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: (accel) MinSpeed is now constant deceleration 10.0
[ 48.857] (**) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: MaxSpeed is now 3.00
[ 48.857] (**) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: AccelFactor is now 0.003
[ 48.857] (**) Synaptics Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[ 48.857] (**) Synaptics Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 1
[ 48.857] (**) Synaptics Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[ 48.857] (**) Synaptics Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[ 48.858] (--) synaptics: Synaptics Mouse: touchpad found
[ 48.858] (II) Using input driver 'mouse' for 'Mouse0'

And to see how xorg.conf configures the driver, please post the output from this command:

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awk '$1 == "Driver" && $2 == ""synaptics"", $1 == "EndSection"' /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Driver "synaptics"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "LeftEdge" "1700"
Option "RightEdge" "5300"
Option "TopEdge" "1700"
Option "BottomEdge" "4200"
Option "FingerLow" "25"
Option "FingerHigh" "30"
Option "MaxTapTime" "220"
Option "MaxTapMove" "220"
Option "VertScrollDelta" "100"
Option "MinSpeed" "0.10"
Option "MaxSpeed" "0.30"
Option "AccelFactor" "0.0030"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
#Option "Repeater" "/dev/ps2mouse"
Option "ClickPad" "true"
Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"
EndSection