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Hi pemasu,

No problems with devx & sfs-load in this 3.8.4.2 build. In the previous one sfs-load/unload worked for me, but compile itself (as discovered later) actually threw up errors. Now everything just works. Did a quick test compile of jwm-716. I went a bit further with mouse pointers, like this: I'd like to compile my own ROX. How do I chose the right version in Barry's sources? I got completely lost there.

Thank you for your hard work and dedication to the community.

Anikin. Heh. I thought about that also, but I wasnt at last that heretical.

About Rox-Filer source.
rox-filer-2011-10-22-patched2 or rox-filer-2011-10-22-patched should the right one in Barrys alphabetical repository. I would take that rox-filer-2011-10-22-patched2.
If I have understood right, it is Puppy patched source.

I havent compiled Rox-Filer for a long time.

Thank you, I'll try that one.

I'm having a big issue here: urxvt. In my learning process I absolutely need to be able to have a terminal output. I can put text in (shift+insert), but I can't get text out. Google says, use mouse middle button. But I'm using a touchpad, is there a solution?

Anikin. Select the text for pasting with left click and drag along the text ie painting, then paste the text with simultaneous left and right click with your touchpad where ever you want. A little tricky but works.

Or...install lxterminal with dependencies from PPM, rename /usr/bin/urxvt to something else, then symlink: ln -s /usr/bin/lxterminal /usr/bin/urxvt

and change in Rox-Filer options the xterm to lxterminal. You get copy - paste also that way by using lxterminal

pemasu wrote:Select the text for pasting with left click and drag along the text ie painting, then paste the text with simultaneous left and right click with your touchpad where ever you want. A little tricky but works.

It does work!
Kiitos, pemasu for this nice trick!

Roxterm-1.17.1-Lucid.pet from
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... ges-lucid/
works on Raring and several other pups (for cut and pasters)

Art

pemasu wrote:Upup Raring 3.8.4.2 has been uploaded. Same non-PAE 3.8.4 kernel.

Cups is now Ubuntu Raring 1.6.2 version with Ubuntu Ghostscript. It has swelled the build size. Oh yeah. It prints.
Test the printing with various needs and report if some ways to print does not work.

Not only does it print but it also auto-detects my HP laserjet Pro 1102w wireless printer! Thanks so much!

Upup Raring version 3.8.4.2, released Apr 2013

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1804708 695236 1109472 0 77568
-/+ buffers: 617668 1187040
Swap: 0 0 0
#
# top
Mem: 703204K used, 1101504K free, 0K shrd, 77568K buff, 473356K cached
CPU: 1% usr 0% sys 0% nic 97% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.15 0.19 0.14 2/135 20765

# uname -a
Linux puppypc8545 3.8.4-upup #1 SMP Mon Apr 1 17:49:25 GMT-8 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux

Just booted and so far all looks extremely good - everything works OOTB. Fantastic Puppy. This has got to be one of the very best Puppies - ever. Many thanks.

Ray MK wrote:Upup Raring version 3.8.4.2, released Apr 2013

#

Just booted and so far all looks extremely good - everything works OOTB. Fantastic Puppy. This has got to be one of the very best Puppies - ever. Many thanks.

I have same opinion. So fast?. However, in my machine it gets freezing. keyboard and mouse is not working after loading.

Because of my earlier troubles with any 3.8.x kernels and my newer Nvidia chips I hesitated trying Raring...... but it appears to be working this time. Precise and PHATSlacko with 3.8.x kernels froze up every attempt but this build is working.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Raring, version 3.8.4

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri exa extmod fb fbdevhw glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
#

Not too worried about no "glxgears" as long as it's working.

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2853MB (192MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 03 Apr 2013 02:24:25 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.8.4-upup (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Mon Mar 25 16:54:50 GMT-8 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.17 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

Hello Pemasu

3.8.4.2 is working well.

I installed the VLC 2.1 daily build from the videolan master-daily PPA on launchpad, and it worked at the first attempt!

Now I wonder what new features VLC 2.1 has...

Thank you for this.

There have been reports of freezing of certain comps with 3.8.X kernels in Upup Raring and also in PHATSlacko threads using 3.8.X kernels.

I have got a report that unsquashing main sfs and replacing jwm with Openbox has been a cure for at least one comp.

It is possible that the main nominator is 3.8.X kernel. Possibly it is not prime yet.

I would like to compile later 3.8.X version and try the impact. But not the next version yet. Anyway...3.7.X kernel has been stable in Upup Precise. One possibility is to downgrade the kernel in the build.

This bug seems to concern only certain comps. Newer Nvidia and some integrated newer intel graphics....at least.

Those bug reports have been noticed. The counter-strike is still under consideration....

Hi,

As Python is included, can someone test if Gpodder can be installed, from Gpodder's PPA?

Thanks in advance.

José PInto

Gpodder python app. Dunno about PPA, but from PPM it works when downloaded with dependencies....and again creating couple of symlinks:

ln -s /usr/share/pyshared/mygpoclient /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages
ln -s /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/gpodder /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages

pemasu,

I know u're like "the kernel guy" in puppy land. You've helped me out with a kernel before in the past also a cpl years ago. Was wondering though, if you had compiled, or know of a 3.0 non-pae kernel?

stifling. In this link: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 979#645979

you will find tar ball of kernel kit. Inside it is several my used and 01micko`s used DOTconfigs of 3.X kernels. Inside folder configs_extra.

Just grap from there. I think there isnt 3.0 version, but the one used in 3.1 or newer should work also.

And...you can use that kernel kit for compiling. It is nowadays real easy to use....about kernel compiling for dummies....really. Not much expertise is needed when using kernel-kit. Thanks to Iguleder and 01micko. Unasked advertisement, lol.

pemasu wrote: Anyway...3.7.X kernel has been stable in Upup Precise. One possibility is to downgrade the kernel in the build.

Don;t go too far back....some of the earlier ones did not support my audio....which version of upup are you thinking of....I'll test and see if it's a no show for my chip.

thanks

tlchost wrote:

pemasu wrote: Anyway...3.7.X kernel has been stable in Upup Precise. One possibility is to downgrade the kernel in the build.

Don;t go too far back....some of the earlier ones did not support my audio....which version of upup are you thinking of....I'll test and see if it's a no show for my chip.

thanks

FWIW, Precise 3.7.2 didn't work on the newer Nvidia boxes either ....... everything else worked so well that I compiled k-3.2.37 (latest at the time) for it.
Aren't computers fun.........

pemasu wrote: And...you can use that kernel kit for compiling. It is nowadays real easy to use....about kernel compiling for dummies....really. Not much expertise is needed when using kernel-kit. Thanks to Iguleder and 01micko. Unasked advertisement, lol.

Haven't tried the kernel kit yet .... is it really that easy? Better than the old-school way?

Hello Pemasu

There have been reports of freezing of certain comps with 3.8.X kernels in Upup Raring

I'm not clear what "freezing" means i.e temporary or permanent.

What I found playing back MPEG2 video on VLC 2.1 was intermittent breaks in playback. But it did not happen with H.264 playback.

Since it was the one with very low CPU load that had the problem, i guessed that it might be to do with idle.

I put idle=poll on the kernel line, and that fixed the problem at the cost of a few Watts, at idle.

idle=mwait also fixes the problem without increasing the power noticeably. But I thought mwait was the default. Has the 3.8.x kernel changed the default?

I have only tried idle=mwait briefly, so I don't know whether it is a complete solution.