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PostPosted: Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:04    Post subject: A la caverne d'Ally Baba ?  

A la caverne d'Ally Baba ? elle y est pas. Mettez là avec les autres, pas à Archives.org.
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Sep 2016, 15:03    Post subject:  

@ Pelo le TROLL

Tu ne sais pas ce que tu veux Evil or Very Mad twisted:

As-tu installé la version Rolx complète que tu as demandé Question

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2016, 08:15    Post subject: underdog  

Rufwoof s'y colle, underdog... Voir ses essais.
Le système de couches fonctionne exactement comme en Photo. La Linux montée en dernier n'ira que dans les endroits innocupés. Un logiciel déjà installé sur la puppy porteuse s'ouvrira, même s'il est plus ancien.
Le mieux c'est de tester.. Attention il faut de la RAM !
Comme les menus n'ont pas bougé au cours des années, prenez deux Puppies bien différentes, une Puppy 4 kDE Slax sur une Slacko 5.3.2.9, ça le faisait très bien, ya trois ans, Déjà.
Maintenant on Fait un adrive, ce qui revient au même.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2016, 08:31    Post subject:  

Underdog c'est pour utiliser le contenu d'une distro linux... Wink

mistfire wrote:
What is underdog linux?

Underdog linux is a feature of puppy linux with allows user to use the other installed linux distro. It will mount the partition on the bottom layer of unionfs.



Voir :
http://barryk.org/puppylinux/development/howpuppyworks.html


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2016, 12:41    Post subject: En 2016, le adrv me semble plus abouti.  

J'ai approfondi en 2013. En 2016, le adrv, qui regroupe un lot d'applications, me semble plus abouti. C'est pour çà que je remonta le sujet. Certaines puppy sont maintenant construites avec un Zdrive et un Adrv séparé. La ASRI EDU 310 en est une. Plutôt que de monter les SFS global, on peut monter le adrive seulement, sur une precise Puppy par exemple. Ce qui va rassurer les intégristes et me convenir à moi aussi.
Les systemes hybrides fonctionnent. J'ai une clé USB toute neuve avec XenialDOG. Rien de bad, mais rien de mieux que nos Puppies classiques. J'avais choisi le démarrage Porteus, que j'ai fini par comprendre.
Ce sont un peu des exercices de style, des OS à ronger pour etudiants Linux. Le user en final a la même chose dans sa gamelle. Le PPM Debian se suffit à lui-même.

Quant à monter une grosse distro linux, même 4GB de RAM ne vont pas suffire.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2016, 14:54    Post subject:  

@ Pelo le TROLL

Malheureusement, tu n'as rien approfondi du tout Exclamation

Adrv n'a rien à voir avec underdog Wink

Voir :
http://barryk.org/puppylinux/development/howpuppyworks.html

Ainsi que pour underdog, l'utilitaire graphique créé par mistfire :
Underdog GUI 1.2.3: GUI tool for Underdog linux


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2016, 15:15    Post subject: çà c'est très important
Subject description: J'ai une idée derrière la tête (forcément)
 

Je vais traduire, pour ceux qui ne causent pas l'anglais : (Lien de Medor)

3. Works on PCs with very little RAM

Puppy2 will take advantage of more RAM, but if your PC is RAM-challenged, no problem.

The key point here is that the personal storage (I also refer to this as the persistent storage) partition or pup_save.3fs file is not loaded into RAM, only mounted read only, and only the "working files" are in RAM.

What you will have in a RAM-challenged PC is the kernel, initrd.gz (uncompressed) and the "working files" in RAM. Those "working files" are only new and changed files, so there will hardly be anything in RAM, meaning that we are going to find our Pup running on very minimal systems ....we have yet to find out how little RAM will work.

Note though, the set of "working files" will grow during a session. Any new or modified file will get added to it. However, there is a daemon (a background program) that will warn if RAM space is running low, then there is a simple fix -- flush the "working files" to the persistent storage (which currently requires a reboot).

Now, you may think, isn't that still going to be slow? Okay, having the "working files" in RAM is good, but when you want to start a big application, such as Mozilla, all of the Moz libraries will have to load off the Flash drive.
Yes, true, so the RAM-challenged PC will run a bit slower.

If your PC does have more RAM, say 128M or more, puppy2 will automatically see that and will load the "pup_xxx.sfs" file into RAM. This file is the same as the "usr_cram.sfs" and "image.gz" files in puppy1 combined. Puppy1 also loaded image.gz and if enough RAM also loaded usr_cram.fs into RAM.

So, if the PC has enough RAM then all the library files will be preloaded into RAM, so you will get the advantage of fast application startup for which Puppy is so famous.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2016, 15:18    Post subject:  

@ Pelo le TROLL

Tu ferai mieux de commencer par apprendre comment fonctionne Puppy plutôt que nous débiter des sornettes 24/7 Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jan 2017, 07:19    Post subject: topic anglais pour apprendre  

Pour apprendre, topic anglais
A étudier à tête reposée.. avec une boite de paracetamol effervescent et un verre d'eau en cas de surchauffe.

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jan 2017, 08:14    Post subject:  

@ Pelo Le TROLL

Pour mon opinion se référer à la ligne ci-dessus Wink

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