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LibreOffice + language packs (latest version: 5.3.3)
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B.K. Johnson

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 00:51    Post subject:  

@Puppus Dogfellow
Many thanks, Puppus Dogfellow, but I have a suggestion to members who place downloads on Google Drive. Please indicate in the forum post the size of the file and md5sum. I don't know about other browsers, but Firefox cannot provide a meaningful progress bar with Google Drive. I can't tell how long the download will take and if I got it all (ISP sometimes truncate the download)
EDIT
It isn't that bad. Smile Google Drive does tell the size when their limit is exceeded.
Quote:
LibreOffice-5.3.1_en-US_xz.sfs (210M) exceeds the maximum size that Google can scan.

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musher0


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Mar 2017, 04:43    Post subject:  

Hello again, Puppus!

Concerning the new LIbreOffice-5.3.1, I noticed that clicking on say, the
LO writer entry in my WM menu, I would be brought to the word processor
and be able to write and save my text. Which is what is supposed to
happen.

However when I left, I was brought a second time to the LO word
processor. And this time of course, it served no purpose.

What's in the attached pet archive?

1) I investigated this bug and found that LO's desktop files all have at
around 2/3's ot them a section called "Create New Document". That's the
part that's causing the repeat. So I removed that section in all desktop files
of the LO suite. Now all elements of the suite load and close normally.

2) I also noticed that the capacity to write a web page with either aOO or
LO is never brought forward. These suites have an acceptable html page
creator, which is enough if the page you have in mind will not contain
advanced layouts or effects. So I added a desktop file for the "web-writer".

3) Finally, and this is a bit of a hack, I composed a script that will allow
a user who has both an aOO sfs and your LO sfs to alternate
between the sfs's and still use these desktop.files. (You can't have both
loaded at the same time or you'll run into trouble.)

How is this possible? Because sfs_load will not squish a file if it already
exists on your system. So I intentionally gave this script the same name
as the libreoffice5.3 link in the sfs. Now I have a shunting capacity
between aOO and LO with the same desktop files.

I prefer using aOO, but I keep abreast of LO's development and like to try
what fellow Puppysists put together. So now I have a lazy way to do it! Smile

I did test the script perhaps 10 times, and it works fine at my end. There
shouldn't be any problems, I think. Any questions, please ask, of course.

IHTH. BFN.

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PS. -- Please note:

This script works for aOO only if your aOO sfs loads in /opt. Please check
before installing the attached. Otherwise it will only work for LO.

You can still use the script with only LO in this case.

Or, if you prefer, you can rename the script at /usr/bin from libreoffice5.3
to say, LibreOffice5.3, which will in effect get it out of the way of the
default libreoffice5.3 link.
LO+aOO_desktop-files-1.pet
Description 
pet

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Filename  LO+aOO_desktop-files-1.pet 
Filesize  44.23 KB 
Downloaded  41 Time(s) 

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Puppus Dogfellow


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Mar 2017, 12:13    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Hello again, Puppus!

Concerning the new LIbreOffice-5.3.1, I noticed that clicking on say, the
LO writer entry in my WM menu, I would be brought to the word processor
and be able to write and save my text. Which is what is supposed to
happen.

However when I left, I was brought a second time to the LO word
processor. And this time of course, it served no purpose.

What's in the attached pet archive?




Hello, musher!

pet is just a repacked sfs as usual and as described in the first post. i'm able to "leave" the word processor without any discernible stalking on its part (whether i close the program or leave the window, it leaves me alone. or am i misunderstanding you?).

download and make scripts use libre's own desktop files (linked to usr/share/applications from /opt/libreoffice5.(version)/share/xdg) for the menu entries.
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musher0


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Mar 2017, 12:31    Post subject:  

Hi Puppus.

I probably have a leprechaun tailing me! Wink
Glad to hear you do not have the problem.

Anyway, aside from that, your sfs works great.

BFN.

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Puppus Dogfellow


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Mar 2017, 12:58    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Hi Puppus.

I probably have a leprechaun tailing me! Wink
Glad to hear you do not have the problem.

Anyway, aside from that, your sfs works great.

BFN.


glad to hear it but the thanks should go to 01micko for the download script and 666philb for the hosting distros (thanks, guys!).
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Puppus Dogfellow


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PostPosted: Sun 21 May 2017, 15:18    Post subject: 533 32/64  

LibreOffice-5.3.3_en-US_xz.pet
LibreOffice-5.3.3_en-US_xz.sfs
LibreOffice-5.3.3_64_en-US_xz.pet
LibreOffice-5.3.3_64_en-US_xz.sfs

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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Wed 24 May 2017, 16:26    Post subject:  

Had an issue with 5.3.1 when trying to save files in root directory. Not root.... root directory. Went back to 5.1 without issue.

slavvo67
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gjuhasz


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PostPosted: Fri 26 May 2017, 12:55    Post subject: Re: 533 32/64  

Puppus Dogfellow wrote:

LibreOffice-5.3.3_en-US_xz.sfs
LibreOffice-5.3.3_64_en-US_xz.sfs


The 32-bit and 64-bit sfs links are the same...

Please correct. Thanks in advance.

Have fun!

Regards

gjuhasz
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Puppus Dogfellow


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PostPosted: Fri 26 May 2017, 19:56    Post subject: Re: 533 32/64  

gjuhasz wrote:
Puppus Dogfellow wrote:

LibreOffice-5.3.3_en-US_xz.sfs
LibreOffice-5.3.3_64_en-US_xz.sfs


The 32-bit and 64-bit sfs links are the same...

Please correct. Thanks in advance.

Have fun!

Regards

gjuhasz


fixed, thanks.
here's the 32 bit sfs again:
LibreOffice-5.3.3_en-US_xz.sfs

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slavvo67 wrote:
Had an issue with 5.3.1 when trying to save files in root directory. Not root.... root directory. Went back to 5.1 without issue.

slavvo67


Barry Kauler wrote:

Quirky Pyro64 version 0.2 (alpha)
[...]
The download file is only 290MB
[...]
LibreOffice. Works great. Amazing to get such a huge app in such a small build. The database components needs a database, and 'mariadb' is in the PPM. Note. LibreOffice was compiled without Java support.

(from http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/pyro-0.2/pyro64-0.2alpha-readme.htm)

hey, slavvo.

i haven't had any saving issues with libre, but you very well might be testing it more (though i can attest that saving to root works fine for me in 5.3.3). any thoughts on whether the 64bit LibreOffice Barry made for pyro would work in other pups? would getting it be as easy as running the distro and using gnewpet? not sure if it would be appreciably quicker, but i'm sure it's significantly smaller. i can't find any details but i'm guessing a sub 180mb pet and based on 5.3.2? not sure how many users are affected by the third digit LO bug fixes and improvements, but compiling that sure seems like a more involved process than using micko and theasterisk's work to make a couple of packages. here's a link to the recipes for any interested, curious, industrious, bored, ...: http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00529.

i'd rather host, download, and/or install 180mb pets than 280mb pets all other things being equal.
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Jul 2017, 23:43    Post subject: 534-32/64 and 540-32/64  

LibreOffice-5.3.4_64_en-US_xz.pet
LibreOffice-5.3.4_64_en-US_xz.sfs
LibreOffice-5.3.4_en-US_xz.sfs
LibreOffice-5.3.4_en-US_xz.pet
LibreOffice-5.4.0_64_en-US_xz.pet
LibreOffice-5.4.0_64_en-US_xz.sfs
LibreOffice-5.4.0_en-US_xz.sfs
LibreOffice-5.4.0_en-US_xz.pet
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peebee


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PostPosted: Thu 10 Aug 2017, 04:55    Post subject:  

Hi Puppus Dogfellow

Just wondering.....

Your LibreOffice-5.4.0_en-US_xz.sfs is 213MB xz compressed....

If I make an sfs from:
https://slackware.pkgs.org/14.2/slackonly-i486/libreoffice-5.4.0-i586-1_slonly.txz.html
also xz compressed (512K blocksize)

it's 133MB

Functionality provided appears to be similar/same? e.g. both US language only....

So why the big difference in size?? 80MB of what?

Intrigued...
Cheers
peebee

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Aug 2017, 10:58    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
Hi Puppus Dogfellow

Just wondering.....

Your LibreOffice-5.4.0_en-US_xz.sfs is 213MB xz compressed....

If I make an sfs from:
https://slackware.pkgs.org/14.2/slackonly-i486/libreoffice-5.4.0-i586-1_slonly.txz.html
also xz compressed (512K blocksize)

it's 133MB

Functionality provided appears to be similar/same? e.g. both US language only....

So why the big difference in size?? 80MB of what?

Intrigued...
Cheers
peebee


Hi peebee

...empty space?

is there a utility like k-delta or similar that can actually show the differences? the pets and sfses are the size they've been because of the utilities i use to grab the libre deb and make it an sfs (01micko's utility) and then a pet (a utility by the Asterisk!). i remember BarryK made relatively tiny libreoffice packages by compiling them himself (i think he said it took over 12 hours on a relatively fast machine)--are the Slackware people doing the same thing?

vicmz wrote:
Puppus Dogfellow wrote:
LibreOffice-5.0.2_en-US_xz.pet, LibreOffice-5.0.2_en-US_xz.sfs

seems to open significantly faster than the four series or even 5.0.1.


Thank you, Puppus. They're in the first page now.

peebee wrote:
.pet is VERY big.....


Puppus Dogfellow wrote:
large pet is the fastest libre yet so i see no point in fiddling with it, but i'd host the smaller version if you'd care to make it.


Radky's pArchive can create xz-compressed pets:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96021

Radky wrote:
Note:
In pArchive, creating pet packages with xz-compression requires a recent Puppy dir2pet script with xz support (ex: Slacko Puppy 5.7/6.0).
Installing an xz-compressed pet requires a recent Puppy installpkg.sh script with xz support (ex: Slacko Puppy 5.7/6.0 & tahrpup 6.0 CE).


The size of my latest SFS is 157 MB including Spanish langpack but removing the scalable folder of gnome and hicolor icons, packaging without extra languages should make it a bit smaller than that.



perhaps it pays to just wait for slackware to do their thing and grab what they come up with.

on a somewhat related note--i noticed 01micko's new slackos have libre built in--do you know if they update automatically now? is there a newer version of that script somewhere? do the slack packages work in ubuntu based pups? i'm not running anything slacko at the moment (but have to say, your lxpups all look excellent and i've been meaning to boot one up for quite some time--cool that you include jwm as option...), but it doesn't seem like there'd be many compatibility issues, and it doesn't seem to be an issue of the compression/conversion tool.

does this work no longer need to be done?

cheers,

puppus
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PostPosted: Today, at 04:11    Post subject: smaller libreoffice 5.4.0 packages
Subject description: 116mb-139mb
 

libreoffice-5.4.0-x86_64-1.pet
libreoffice-5.4.0-i586-1.pet
libreoffice-5.4.0-i586.sfs
libreoffice-5.4.0-x86_64-1.sfs

Quote:

peebee wrote:
Hi Puppus Dogfellow

Just wondering.....

Your LibreOffice-5.4.0_en-US_xz.sfs is 213MB xz compressed....

If I make an sfs from:
https://slackware.pkgs.org/14.2/slackonly-i486/libreoffice-5.4.0-i586-1_slonly.txz.html
also xz compressed (512K blocksize)

it's 133MB

Functionality provided appears to be similar/same? e.g. both US language only....

So why the big difference in size?? 80MB of what?

Intrigued...
Cheers
peebee

i used the same utility to convert an sfs made from the slacko txz as i do for the debs downloaded from libre--result was a significantly larger pet (347 vs 280 mb), so no closer to answering the question. that said, the txzs installed fine in tahr64 605 and in xenial32-704 (i made a pet (libredesktops.pet) of the desktop files that seemed to be lacking after the 32 bit installation, but that may've been a quirk--they were there in the 64 bit installations and perhaps i checked too early--machine is a bit slow on the wm restart/repopulate the menus routine). i'm not sure what pups can't install txzs direclty (all slackos and anything precise and later can?), so i've provided a pet in case of missing menu entries and a link to the XZ-compressed pet extraction & installation for older pups utilities by rerwin i've mirrored:
xz_utils_by_rerwin

pets and sfses were made with radky's parchive (compress the folder into xz pet or sfs) and SFR's UExtract (decompress the txz). haven't tested the sfs but the pets appear fine. size comparisons:
made from packages from https://slackware.pkgs.org:

116, 125 pet and sfs, --mb 32
128, 139 pet and sfs, --mb 64

made from the downloaded debs and the gz sfs to pet conversion tool:
213, 260 --mb 32
227, 280 --mb 64

sfs2pet-20121001:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81316
GUI to download LibreOffice - beta quality:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=505027#505027
parchive:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=803087#803087
uextract:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=717357#717357

----

unless problems arise/are reported, this will be the new way i handle/host/mirror the libreoffice packages. i'm thinking no more pets as it seems like an unnecessary step--are there any pups that can run these packages but not the utility that installs txz's? and where could it be gotten if needed? has it always been a part of puppy? i don't remember not being able to install at least some txz's directly...).

enjoy/report problems

Very Happy
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