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external monitor

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 15:29
by broomdodger
Barry
It is morning here, I planned to do this test last night.

I connected an external monitor to the:
Sony VAIO PCG-R505DL
precise 5.6.00
--AND--
The external monitor works great at 1024x768, and even at 1280x1024 !

The internal laptop screen is still mottled grey.

VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.6

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 04)
Display controller: Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: synaptics dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: intel

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse record synaptics

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1280x1024 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

Bill

Re: Pudd

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 15:55
by L18L
shinobar wrote:/usr/sbin/Pudd in Precise 5.6 is broken.
Here is the fixed.
#130317 L18L: internationalisation (gettext and Pudd.htm in help/<language>/)
#130524 shinobar: fix NLS
Thanks for fixing :D

monitor more

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 16:20
by broomdodger
Sony VAIO PCG-R505DL
** laptop **
precise 5.6.00

More info:
Note: wary 5.4.90 works well.

precise 5.6.00
With the external monitor, I can see the laptop screen turns mottled grey just after 'loading kernal modules'.

Another problem:
Now that I can see the screen, I can save and restart, but precise 5.6.00 fails to shutdown, it hangs on shutdown. Then I force poweroff.

On restart, the wallpaper is blank and all desktop icons are triangles.

Tried several times, all the same.

Too bad, I was given two of these.
I was hoping to use them as servers. :(

Bill

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 16:38
by starhawk
starhawk wrote:
starhawk wrote:Poulsbo driver needs work, at least for me... "TEST_X_NOW" results in some sorta logfile that basically means it doesn't like me today. Consistently.

Axiomtek PICO820 motherboard
Atom Z530 CPU
US15W chipset (GMA500)
2gb RAM
SATA (in IDE mode because that's all the board can do) 16gb SSD
Output is VGA

Running from CD with a USB CD setup that the board can handle. I used it to install Upup Precise 3831 (kernel 382 in my version) and it worked fine... of course the glibc in that version of Upup isn't new enough for jejy69's GNOME2.32 SFS... hence the desire to upgrade a little...

Sorry if I sound ticked off, I'm not -- just frustrated and disappointed. I was really hoping this would be working now. Oh well :(
Anyone have any info on this? Is it specific to my machine and works elsewhere? Can it be fixed, in either case?
Still hoping for an answer on this :cry:

precise 5.6-final, May 21, 2013

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 16:55
by icake
I tried to create a Chinese Language pet for Precise 5.6 and have found the following issues:

1. menus and sub-menus Chinese words are shown as squares
Image

2. system tray, lower right hand corner time icon, mouse pup up tool tips, Chinese words are shown as squares
Image

I have checked that Chinese fonts are already successfully installed and available because Chinese input, web Chinese display are all normal.

Does anyone know what needs to be done to fix these?
×××××××××××××××××××××××××××××××××××××××××
I found the solution:
edit the file /root/.jwm/jwmrc-theme
and replace all "DejaVu Sans-10" with "DejaVu Sans 10"
that is replace the "-" with a space for all the font names.
icake
May 29, 2013

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 17:01
by Karl Godt
Starhawk, the 3.2 kernel seems not to support GMA 3000 chips .
Others had posted similar in the hardware section and switched to recent kernels by pemasu.

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 17:39
by PaulR
PaulR wrote:
ETP wrote:Hi PaulR,
It may be:

a) A bad download of the ISO – you need to confirm the checksum.
Or
b) A bad burn. I suggest if a) is o/k, that using something like BurnAware, you burn it again at the slowest possible speed and ensure you turn on the verify option.
Thanks ETP - I've double checked (a) and that's ok. Wouldn't think (b) would apply as the same thing happens when I boot from USB (although that was made with the same ISO. I'll start over, download and burn another disk, see if the same happens.
That didn't work. The MD5 is correct and I created a bootable USB using Puppy's BootFlash. While it boots and behaves normally it still hangs when trying first save and there's no option to save to hard disk instead of USB.

Paul

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 18:22
by starhawk
Karl Godt wrote:Starhawk, the 3.2 kernel seems not to support GMA 3000 chips .
Others had posted similar in the hardware section and switched to recent kernels by pemasu.
OK, no worries -- although you just taught me two things.
(1) that Precise 56 uses a 3.2.x kernel.
(2) that my GMA500 graphics core is part of the GMA3000 series. Doesn't make numerical sense but you know more than I do, so I trust you on that.

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 18:38
by rjbrewer
PaulR wrote:
That didn't work. The MD5 is correct and I created a bootable USB using Puppy's BootFlash. While it boots and behaves normally it still hangs when trying first save and there's no option to save to hard disk instead of USB.

Paul
It seems these problems are affecting older Intel machines.
I never use frugal installs, but did try some on my Inspiron and
experienced every sort of problem concerning hangups, save-
files, missing icons, and even kernel panics, that others have
mentioned in the last few pages.

With my full install; the temporary addition of "acpi=force" to
the grub kernel line solves the hang problem.

I'll try my netbook and see if it works with frugal.

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 18:45
by PaulR
Thanks rjbrewer, at least I'm not alone in having this issue so there's hope yet :D

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 19:18
by Sage
Couldn't get either Claws or Sylpheed to run in 5.6. Might've had something to do with huge lists of dependencies? Didn't see .pets for either, either?
Also experiencing extreme difficulties downloading a friend's sky.com emails into SM emailer. The Sky instructions are as bizarre as incorrect - many of the steps they require don't exist. Somewhere, I saw that their default IMAPI needs to be changed to POP at some sky web location which proved equally unreachable. Any comments welcomed.
Unfortunately, with other folks one doesn't get rational choices of HW or SW ! Just takes ten times longer...

icake : please resize your picture to conform with Forum regulations.

"acpi=force" : see this Dougal fix has become necessary again. The need for this was fixed a couple of centuries back, or so it seems. The answer is known to many, but not me.

Sylpheed runs great Precise 5.6

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 19:24
by broomdodger
Sage wrote:Couldn't get either Claws or Sylpheed to run in 5.6. Might've had something to do with huge lists of dependencies? Didn't see .pets for either, either?
I download the source:
http://sourceforge.jp/projects/sylpheed ... 3.tar.bz2/
And compile, runs great Precise 5.6
Bill

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 19:25
by Sage
Ta!
compile
is above my pay grade.

precise 5.6-final, May 21, 2013

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 20:14
by icake
Sage,

Thanks for pointing out that the size of my image in my earlier message has not conformed with the forum regulations.

I did not know what are the requirements for the image size in the forum, and I searched briefly for the regulations without success. I have now resized my images to message board size of 640x480.

If this is also not an allowed size, please let me know asap.

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 20:18
by rjbrewer
PaulR wrote:Thanks rjbrewer, at least I'm not alone in having this issue so there's hope yet :D
Tried my netbook with usbflash:

No hangup or other problems; did save file to usbflash ok.
There is no option for hdsave as far as I can see.

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 01:10
by zygo
Sage,

In pp5.6 I used http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... 1.0-q1.pet to receive email over IMAP4
There are newer and older version in http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-wary5/

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 02:06
by OscarTalks
I made a .PET of the nVidia legacy 173.14.37 driver with kernel 3.2.44 for Precise Puppy 5.6 here:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86424

Agere modem driver firmware package upgraded

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 02:22
by rerwin
peebee, and other testers,
I think I found why peebee had such trouble with the new driver. I corrected the cause in the firmware package, as well as making other bug fixes there. Please replace the previous version with the corrected version at the original place:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 629#705629

I go into more detail, there.
Richard

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 05:13
by Crash
Booting 5.6 results in a blank screen with the monitor complaining "Input Not Supported". Adding "pfix=nox" to boot menu doesn't help. All recent versions, including 5.5, work OK.

Video card: Nvidia GeForce GT 520
Processor: Intel Dual-Core E6500

MENU.LST excerpt (Grub4DOS):

title Precise Puppy Linux 56 frugal install at sda1/p56
find --set-root /menu.lst
kernel /p56/vmlinuz psubdir=p56 pmedia=atahd pfix=nox
initrd /p56/initrd.gz

/// Edited a few minutes later:

P.S.: It works fine on my laptop, which is an MSI A4000, using an Intel T4300 CPU, GeForce 8200M Video.

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 06:03
by Sage
zygo: many thanks for your comments. With Sky, they cloak their verbiage so that it becomes incomprehensible - I cannot even ascertain whether my friend is defaulted to IMAPI or POP. Their 'instructions' point to non-existent menus and options. Vince Cable got it right - this devil is in league with the Devil as well as the devil. No chance the proletariat will stop pouring their shekels into his coffers and avoid using his systems. Sadly, not all good things emanate from the antipodes...