Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

donkeymilk · Joined: 21 May 2013 Posts: 4

How can you not tell people this is non pae?
Puppy Distros are meant for old computers.
that is the point of them.
I'm fed up downloading megabytes of stuff only to find out it is useless on a Dell D505 Pentium M.

oligin10 · Joined: 17 Jul 2010 Posts: 143 Location: Buckeye State, USA

Just a suggestion. There are plenty of versions of Puppy. Read before you take your time to download. Some are PAE, some aren't. Thanks, Rob

Flash · Posted: Tue 21 May 2013, 16:19 Post subject:

Hmm, I was unaware that the whole point of Puppy was to keep old computers going. Thanks for setting me straight. What should I use in new computers?

rjbrewer · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 4355 Location: merriam, kansas

p310don · Posted: Tue 21 May 2013, 20:13 Post subject:

Most Puppies ARE non-PAE, and that is why it works so well on most old computers.

Some of the newest Puppies have both PAE and non-PAE builds, and it is usually pretty clearly labelled as such.

What did you download?

What are you looking for? For an older machine like that, have a look at Wary or Classic Pup.

Classic:

http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/iso-sfs/214X-top10.iso

Wary:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/wary-5.5/wary-5.5.iso

Hope that helps
Paul

R-S-H · Joined: 18 Feb 2013 Posts: 283

oldyeller · Joined: 15 Nov 2011 Posts: 471 Location: Mishawaka IN

gcmartin · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2640 Location: Earth

The Puppy Development community works very hard to generate General Purpose 32bit distros for our use.

It appears you may have just joined the forum. So, you "may" be new here.

For about the last 3 years many/most Puppy developers have been sharing the "target" PC they expect for the distros they build for community consumption. Since there is no "standard format" of announcing this, sometimes, we have to dig a little to get that understanding.

Last year, this community made major efforts in transistioning distros to work in 2 major areas for General Purpose 32bit Puppy systems:

Most, now, build a 32bit version that seems to work very well on PCs from 512MB to 4GB. This is labeled sometimes as "4G" and other times as non-PAE.
And many distro builders also make a 32bit version which will work on any PC since 1995 which comes with the Intel PAE spec.

The older distros too, as couple members have already shared in this thread, do "work" on the older hardware...still.

In an effort to help you I see that your laptop has one of these CPU:

Intel® Pentium M® Processors up to 735 (1.70 Ghz, 2MB L2 cache);
Intel® Pentium M® Processors up to 1.60 Ghz (1MB L2 cache);
Intel® Celeron M® Processors up to 340 (1.50 Ghz, 512KB L2 cache)

There is no conspiracy active in this community nor is there attempts to purposely hide information for any greater purpose. In fact, this, I believe, is the reason the distro developers began sharing the targeted platforms that they expect their builds will run comfortably on. I think many test this to insure accuracy of their recommendations. Thus they try to help people, like us, to understand what the distro is intended for.

The PAE development is designed, specifically, to extend the system configurations that PUPs can run on....not to limit Puppy Linux. Over 99% of the CPUs built by AMD and Intel have PAE. Thats a lot of millions of PCs since 1995.

The community can help you, should you want its help. So I will take a step to ask a couple of key questions such that members here can share good information to help

Question that we need answers to better help you

Which of the above processors do you have on the D505?
How much RAM do you have on the D505?
What Operating System were you running BEFORE you signed into the forum on the D505?

If you are running ANY Linux, open a terminal, type the following, and post the results, along with the above questions to us here in the forum.

rjbrewer · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 4355 Location: merriam, kansas

Been using Wary on my Pentium M machine for a long time.
Trying the just released Precise 5.6.
Just as good; if not better.

ally · Joined: 19 May 2012 Posts: 352 Location: lincoln

regarding the new precise, I have it installed on a lenovo t500 and it seems much faster then earlier versions

Smile

Moose On The Loose · Joined: 24 Feb 2011 Posts: 280

musher0 · Posted: Wed 22 May 2013, 12:49 Post subject:

I agree with "Moose on the Loose".

We should all conspire to make the (computer) world more transparent.
Like in compiz-fusion or something.

(Now where in h... did flash put that tongue-in-cheek icon...) Smile

donkeymilk · Joined: 21 May 2013 Posts: 4

Thanks for those who posted the genuinely helpful answers.
Sorry ,it was 3 in the morning (Non compos mentis)! Embarassed

Thanks again for the helpful pointers.
Shouldn't we ask the "Linux Community" to state pae or non pae on all release's

I'm using Fakepae with one my of Ubuntu spinoff 's and it seems to work ok.
Sadly it's not recognized at the bios level when first booting other distros i like to check out.