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How to build your own OS from a 4.12 or 4.21 base (AnitaOS)
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darry1966

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun 2013, 00:18    Post_subject:  How to build your own OS from a 4.12 or 4.21 base (AnitaOS)
Sub_title: 4X Series Updated and Unleashed - DIY OS How-to..........
 

This Distro is ideal for those with really old legacy hardware but find some of the other distros like Damn Small Linux etc maybe not be suitable and want something a little more up to date. What if you'd had the basic ISO and add want you needed and updates you needed and could run a modern browser like Seamonkey with a 2.6.25.16 kernel. In other words a get your hands dirty and build your own system. I have now made the iso's with a lot of the updates installed to make building the your system easier but still giving you the choices over how you want to deploy your DIY system. Choosing which programs you wish to install and of course older programs designed for really slow processors available from petget package manager. These ISO's also have QT, and Full SDL Libraries for games.

Runs with really low ram requirements and is sleek and fast download the iso, burn the iso, read the documentation and away you go. Boot up into Anitaos from your newly created CD which you have burned.
Partition your drive and install then install grub bootloader download what you need and your away.....

If You need to restart jwm from commandline in terminal type jwm -restart and to fix menus type fixmenus

Stable Iso's


[/url]http://sourceforge.net/projects/anitaos/files/Anitaos/LATEST%20LTS%20ANITAOS%20ISO/

Extra Software:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/anitaos/files/Anitaos/


Browser choices :

http://sourceforge.net/projects/anitaos/files/Anitaos/Internet/

Finally thank you to Tuxtoo for his support and his tireless work for keeping 4.12 alive:

http://412collection.co.uk/

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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun 2013, 02:28    Post_subject:  

I've come to think Mr Kauler has lost interest in building puppylinux from it's own sources but that support has not been dropped from WOOF build tools, just yet.
It should be possible for anyone with time and desire to build a Wary Puppy for the foreseeable future.
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darry1966

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun 2013, 17:45    Post_subject: Ted Dog - Reply  

First of all thank you for your reply and your thoughts.

Thank you to Barry for his many efforts and others involved with Puppy
I respect his decision to move on to other things, he know his priorties and is true to them and his vision for Puppy - I commend him for that.

I am now trying 4.31 with the modifications it also so far too works real well on my AMD Sempron 3000+ but for me the 4 series and probably for others the same is also true than wary does.

Puppy 4 series uses a lot less ram for running software on and Puppy 4 series can work on variety of hardware. Puppy Linux is a real hobbiest distro and I like as a New Zealander the idea of the number 8 wire idea of do it yourself mantra.

Why not while Wary's future is being decided and I have simply tried to help others like myself with old machines by putting all the links and how to in one place.

Anyway thanks again Ted Dog.
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6502coder

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun 2013, 19:35    Post_subject: Obstacles to going retro...  

In a perfect world, there would exist a summary of the important bug fixes and functional improvements that have been implemented over time in the varlous mainline Puppy releases.

Not all change is just bad, and surely Puppy has far less bloat and frivolous change than most distros. Over time there HAVE been bugs fixed, and there HAVE been changes for the better. So in going back from Puppy Y, to a much earlier release Puppy X, you are giving something up. Unfortunately there is no easy to find out what the significant deltas are between Puppies X and Y, as this information is scattered all over the place, in release notes and in blog and forum posts.

It's easy to fire up a LiveCD to test Puppy X to see if it gives acceptable performance on the applications one is interested in. But the bugs in release X that were fixed in or prior to release Y probably won't show up in a quick LiveCD test. So the safest policy would seem to be to just use the most recent Puppy that gives adequate performance on the applications you use.

In no way am I denigrating your OP, darry1966. It seems like a very helpful suggestion for certain users. But I would be a lot more willing to go this route if the information existed for me to make a more reasoned decision.
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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun 2013, 20:31    Post_subject:  

Mid 4.0 series was what I feel was the highpoint, best of the Puppylinux world. All polish of a hand tuned distro, and the maturity of methods honed over pass 4 generations (counting from pre. v1.0)
Clearly there was no better linux distro, stability, size, completeness and perfection of product. Knoppix had begun to slip, so puppylinux was the fallback for others to test: Was it them, the hardware, or a kernel problem. Recall all the people on other linux forms:

I can't understand why XXXX or YYYY does not work in our distro, it works fine in puppylinux and its only 150M in size.

Puppylinux forced other distros to fix their problems. But once Woof builds started using other distros compiled code base, we lost that fine polish and puppylinux could not be used as gold standard, like Knoppix held prior and during most of puppylinux existence. It was great Knoppix for everything and the kitchen sink if you could acquire a copy or easier to get Puppylinux since you could most likely finish downloading before the phone company dropped your 8 hours telephone call.
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bark_bark_bark

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun 2013, 20:36    Post_subject:  

I am not sure if it has been confirmed by BK that Wary will be gone forever.
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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun 2013, 22:19    Post_subject:  

That why these threads keep popping up, is he or is he not dropping Wary, do not forget Racy and Quirky versions. Quirky was never expected to be 'main line' so no one complains that releases are rare or 'buggy' <me I love, quirky, since it reminds me of early puppylinux, a release every couple of day with a big gotcha list, BK was on fire coding with some very cutting edge ideas. > His excitement was contagious.
But only Wary/Racy and Quirky are still mostly hand-tuned compile from source builds. To me the only puppylinux are those three, but Wary being the most likey to run and be stable on any given equipment, would be the flag ship since its most like the puppys prior to v5.
He might be wanting someone to step up and take over the boring time consuming task of building from source.
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darry1966

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jun 2013, 16:23    Post_subject: Some More Handy Hints - DIY OS  

This is a great alternative to the dbus and dbusglib .pets when building your own OS as described at the beginning of this topic. Nobus .pet. (Feedback appreciated on this).

LINK: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80293&start=1

I have found latest Libreoffice works well with my modified 4.12 build (Cups must be installed) - VERSION 4.0

LINK: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80293&start=1

My sincerest hope is that this helps people who want a fast sleek OS on their old computer using a DIY approach.

Pre-Woof builds work better for me - 4.12 and 4.21 after a lot of testing. They use less ram and I gain great performance so I lose nothing. Im sure there are many others who like Pre-Woof builds and continue to run them. I also repect those who like Precise, Lucid and Wary, Racy and 4.31 for their choices - be true to what works for you - choice is great.

Thankyou Vicmz and Technosaurus for their handy info.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013, 09:14    Post_subject:  

darry1966 , you refer to 412? Was that maybe the version
that fail with some hardware. or was it 420 that failed gettiing
the driver for some network LAN WAN I tested a lot of them
and it where very frustrating that again and again Puppy
just failed to get internet so maybe you are lucky that your computer works
but be prepared that a lot of users will complain their computer fail to get out
on interenet and there is no solution to it either AFAIK.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013, 13:15    Post_subject:  

exact...

and don't forget ext4...
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darry1966

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013, 17:29    Post_subject: Nooby Reply  

nooby wrote:
darry1966 , you refer to 412? Was that maybe the version
that fail with some hardware. or was it 420 that failed gettiing
the driver for some network LAN WAN I tested a lot of them
and it where very frustrating that again and again Puppy
just failed to get internet so maybe you are lucky that your computer works
but be prepared that a lot of users will complain their computer fail to get out
on interenet and there is no solution to it either AFAIK.


First of all thankyou Nooby for your question.

I must confess to not having tried 4.12 with wireless. I use it with no problems with DHCP ethernet wired.

I used my methods with a 4.21 based distro Uhuru Linux 4.21 and installed Frisbee following this method Link: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Frisbee.

By the way use 4.21 as it was a bug fix of 4.20 and my methods in this DIY project were to cover 4.12, 4.21 and 4.31 I personally like both 4.21 (I use it on my laptop) and 4.12 on my desktop)

It is a far better method for wireless on an old machine than network wizard.

It states on the site Puppy 4 so I will install to my 4.12 box and see if it works with it.

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darry1966

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013, 17:44    Post_subject: Nooby Reply 2  

Hi Nooby,

I have tried first stage of using 4.12(Barebones based DIY system with Frisbee and Frisbee and WPA Supplicant installed so it will be interesting to try and see if it works I thank you for this new oppertunity which I overlooked.

Have a great day and enjoy exploring Puppy.

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darry1966

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013, 18:39    Post_subject: Oui Reply  

oui wrote:
exact...

and don't forget ext4...


Can you please elaborate on this so I can answer your question. Thankyou for posting and have a great day. Very Happy
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darry1966

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013, 21:23    Post_subject: 4.12 and wireless - TEST SUCESSFUL WITH FRISBEE
Sub_title: In answer to Nooby's question
 

Machine: Sony Vaio Laptop PCG-FR720
Ram: 256
wirelss card: DWL-G630 D/Link AirPlus G
OS: Puppy Linux 4.12

Tested wireless using Frisbee, configured and wireless speed was fast just like my Uhuru Linux 4.21 setup.

Link: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Frisbee
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tuxtoo


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Jun 2013, 14:55    Post_subject:  

darry1966

Just to make sure I have picked yo up correctly in your first post. Files to downloaded are in bold.

1. Download a 412 barebones from http://412collection.co.uk/b-bones.php#bb

One of these: puppy-4.1.2-barebones.iso, puppy-4.1.2-barebones-retro.iso or g_pup-1.2.iso

2. Use these Glibc updates glibc and glibc locales - http://sourceforge.net/projects/mywolfe/files/Pet-files-G/

These are: glibc-2.10.1.pet and glibc_locales-2.10.1.pet

3. Pets from here: http://412collection.co.uk/index.php.

Not entirely sure what pets you are referring to here?

4. (ffmpeg update and xinelib updates): Link: http://101.143.161.76/puppy/pup4/opt/pets/.

Again, not entirely sure what ffmpeg files you are referring to as there are 9 of them excluding the DEV’s and which of the xinelib files should be used

Finally dbus-1.2.4.2-1_dbus-glib-0.82-w5.pet from http://412collection.co.uk/internet.php

Could you just clarify for me the files to be downloaded in 3. and 4. above.

Thanks in advance

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