slacko-5.6 Final - plus testing next

[tlchost]

I said bootable USB

no matter. you NEAD a save file

I have a save file....so let's dispense with that as a problem.

Appreciate your suggestions....not being overly technical, a lot of this
is over my head.

Thanks anyway

[SFR]

A couple of new/old little bugs.

1. Trash again: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 099#713099

2. Xlock:

-/+grabserver
The grabserver option causes xlock to grab the server. This is not usually needed but some unsecure X servers can be defeated without this.

In case if "our" server is secure enough, would be nice to delete all (2) occurences of "-grabserver" from /usr/local/apps/Xlock/AppRun, because when this parameter exists and a composite manager is in use (Compiz/xcompmgr), xlock won't display screensaver nor password prompt.
(originally found in here some time ago)

Greetings!

[for_wov]

in full (manually installed) errors on boot: intit:can't log to /dev/tty5
starting pid 44, tty ' ': '/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit '
/etc/rc.d/sysinit:line 170: can't create /dev/console: Read-only filesystem

?

[for_wov]

will svn work in the next release or maybe smth is wrong with my current slacko(have frugal & full on the same partition/work form frugal)

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svn checkout http://qtalk-ui.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
svn: E155000: '/root/trunk' is already a working copy for a different URL

it the problem in svn as locall app or that is remote site problems? same things on different sites.

[01micko]

@for_wov

There is a lot of permissions problems in the current version because of woof bugs. Maybe the SVN one is related? I didn't test. I can say with confidence that a new test version will be out within 12 hrs with many many bugs fixed. It's a kernel rollback but there are always 2 versions of slacko so with a little patience a newer kernel version will be released too.

@SFR.. in saying "many many bugs fixed".. I'm leaving the trash one for now since it's under discussion

[01micko]

Next BETA is out;

See main post

[rcrsn51]

/dev/usb/lpx is now working like it did in previous versions. Hopefully, sszindian and Jim1911 will be able to print with this one.

The menu item System > Grub Legacy Bootloader Config is dead because that program no longer exists. It was removed from Woof in favour of Legacy Grub Config 2013.

[Jim1911]

Hi Mick,

It's working great with everything tried, including printing, Wine and my favorite Windows software. I'll have to try your new f2fs installer.

Thanks,
Jim

[01micko]

The menu item System > Grub Legacy Bootloader Config is dead because that program no longer exists. It was removed from Woof in favour of Legacy Grub Config 2013.

The package woof gets still has the old DOTdesktop file, maybe BK put the proper package in his ubuntu repo which slacko doesn't search. Anyway, I fixed it manually. Will be right in the next.

[Billtoo]

I burned the 5570 iso to a DVD and booted from that.
I used the F2FS installer - flash drives and installed to a 16 gb SDHC
card.
On rebooting and setting up the new system I put the devx and kernel
source sfs in /mnt/home and loaded them with SFS-load (that took a
long time and the free space on the card was reduced by approx 6gb)
I downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-319.32.run proprietary driver and
exited to the prompt.
It needed to reboot to get rid of the nouveau driver, back at the
prompt I compiled the proprietary driver (again took a long time) when
it finished I ran xorgwizard and chose the nvidia driver and proper
resolution, (another reboot).
One rebooting it tested x and then prompted me to click on finished,
then it went to the desktop.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sat 13 Jul 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.5.70 Linux 3.4.52 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] (rev a2)
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidia Corporation G98[GeForce 9300 GE](rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP77 Board - mcp78pvo Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9200/integrated/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 319.32
Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4850e
Core 0: @2499 1: @2499 MHz
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.378 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.872 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.119 FPS
#
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 9200/integrated/SSE2/3DNOW!
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 319.32
Direct Rendering Yes
Network controller Ralink corp. RT2860
Memory 2852MB (92MB used)

That's it so far, there is 8.2 GB free on the card right now.
Will keep testing.

EDIT:Installing Kdegames and Clementine took a .9gb chunk out of the
free space on the card, down to 7.3 GB free.
Kdegames works fine but Clementine gives an error if I try to run it
in the terminal:
# clementine
clementine: error while loading shared libraries: libqjson.so.0: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
#

[01micko]

PAE version is released

It is named 5.6.71. The kernel was released this morning (my time). I haven't tested it much but it looks like the kernel source is ok.

See main post.

[sszindian]

Yes rcrsn51... printer now works but... I had to use hplip-3.11.10's for both printer and scanner. The 12 version from the PPM didn't seem to download correctly, it only downloaded the dependencies, not the hplip's themselves and duped two of those at that? I don't have time to fool with it right now but lets see what others report for a bit!

Hmmm... should have mentioned before but previous version we had print problems with... scanner worked with all versions, 11, 12, 13 but... 12 and 13 do not seem to give good colors on a scan, 11 is beautiful and almost true to color... 12 and 13 were 'brighter colors' than should be, don't lookie so nice

>>>---Indian------>

[rcrsn51]

Yes rcrsn51... printer now works but... I had to use hplip-3.11.10's for both printer and scanner. The 12 version from the PPM didn't seem to download correctly, it only downloaded the dependencies, not the hplip's themselves and duped two of those at that? I don't have time to fool with it right now but lets see what others report for a bit!

Hmmm... should have mentioned before but previous version we had print problems with... scanner worked with all versions, 11, 12, 13 but... 12 and 13 do not seem to give good colors on a scan, 11 is beautiful and almost true to color... 12 and 13 were 'brighter colors' than should be, don't lookie so nice

>>>---Indian------>

??????

I don't know what you are downloading from the PPM. The appropriate HP print/scan drivers for Puppy are here.

[James C]

Fresh manual frugal install of 5.5.70 on the Athlon XP box.Zero problems so far.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.5.70

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
127 frames in 5.0 seconds = 25.354 FPS
124 frames in 5.0 seconds = 24.732 FPS
125 frames in 5.0 seconds = 24.922 FPS
119 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23.621 FPS
125 frames in 5.0 seconds = 24.888 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (193MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.5.70
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 14 Jul 2013 12:19:10 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.4.52 (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Wed Jul 10 10:53:04 EST 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Distribution : Slacko Puppy - 5.5.70

[Billtoo]

Manual frugal install of 5571 to a 16gb SDHC card (have two).

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sun 14 Jul 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.5.71 Linux 3.10.1 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] (rev a2)
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300 GE](reva1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP77 Board - mcp78pvo Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NVAA
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4850e
Core 0: @2499 1: @2499 MHz

This is my second savefile, I tries to compile the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-319.32.run
driver with the first savefile and it was a no go so I started fresh.

I'll attach the error log from the nvidia installer, I think there is
a problem with the kernel source sfs.

[01micko]

Billtoo,

No, by that log it's an nvidia error. Looks like it isn't ready for k3.10x yet.


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Anyway, as I do, I'm trying a radical experiment. I'm dd'ing my stick to the SSD of my eee-701SD, see what happens...

I've also noticed there is dramatic differences in speed with different nand media. I have a couple of thise Lexar firefly sticks and they go great. I have a newish imation and that is as slow as treacle. Also, old SDHC class4 cards are a bit too slow.

F2fs also slugs a fair bit of space for itself, around 11%. I'm thinking the best way to make use of it is to have all the read only files (initrd, vmlinuz, main sfs and others) on there own separate partition, either vFAT or ext, and then mount the f2fs partition as a directory for storage. That way we can get the full speed of AUFS and the advantages of f2fs.

It certainly is faster (imho) than a full install of ubuntu or mageia to a stick.

[DaveS]

You are dead right about media speeds. I get most consistent results with Sandisk media. Not quite sure where this USB thing is going though. Considering everything, space used, speed, and simplicity, surely ext2 or 3 frugal installs running in pupmode12 makes more sense? It is my understanding that sfs files for things like OpenOffice can't be used with full installs. Have I got that right?

[01micko]

Dave, we'll see where it leads, but I think my last idea is the best. Mount the partition as a layer. I believe it can be done.

Anyhow, the eee experiment is a success, with 1 caveat. F2fs can't be resized, so my 4gig stick partitions have to stay put, so I just made the other 4 gig into another partition. It runs plenty fast so maybe the future of f2fs lies with SSD's.

'nuff about f2fs, it's another toy to play with.

[DaveS]

PAE version is released

It is named 5.6.71. The kernel was released this morning (my time). I haven't tested it much but it looks like the kernel source is ok.

See main post.

LOL, back at the coffee shop . . . .

[01micko]

@Billtoo

I was right. It's the nvidia driver. It can be compiled with a patch. I used the latest nvidia beta driver. Works.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.5.71

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 
  Drivers requested to be loaded:       nvidia 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse ramdac record shadow wfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1366x768 pixels (413x232 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

Let me know if you want instructions.