Is there a future for puppy 1.x?

[r__hughes]

Is there a future for puppy 1.x?

Actually when I say the future of puppy1.x I mean pups based on kernel 2.4
(compared to 2.6)

Perhaps I detect an undertone of apathy in this forum for the pup1.x kennel since
puppy1.09CE was so quickly followed by the release of puppy2.00.

I wonder whether there is still a will to develop and improve puppy 1.x
versions based on the (old) 2.4 kernel. or whether there is an assumption
that everyone can and will migrate to puppy2 and its kernel 2.6 kin.

I have 4 computers on my home network - the 2 later model HP pavillions of
course belong to my children, while the older AMD K6-3D 476MHz/384MbRAM PC
(+ethernet card) and the NEC Versa SX 233MHz/256MbRAM notebook (+pcmcia
802.11b wifi card) both with pre-2000 bios chips are mine (and do most of
the real work around here). The PC is the one hooked up to the Canon S520
colour bubblejet parallel printer and the Canoscan N650U USB scanner - all
these are fully functional in puppies 108r1, 109ce and 2.00 thanks to Sane,
Xsane, CUPS andTurboprint. The only things I use W98 for are the Magellan and
OziExplorer GPS map-related software.

Both of my 'old' computers were originally W98SE and now both use pup4dos to
give a 3-boot option (W98, pup109CE or pup2). The 'newer' computers were
originally WME and because my teenagers are heavily into GAMES it is doubtful
that WME will be banished. I also have restricted access to these computers
because of my ulterior motives.

All computers have been tested and will work well on pups 108r1, 109CE and 2.00
but with 2.00 I am experiencing notebook acpi problems (shutdown & battery-
status) and pcmcia deprecation error-messages which, so far, have not been fatal.

I really do appreciate all the effort that has been put into developing pup
versions 1.x and 2.00 I think they are tremendous systems and I am completely
hooked on puppy. I realize that pup2.00 is currently in a very early development
phase but I would be tremendously disappointed if a mass migration of experise
to pup2 effectively abandoned those of us with vintage 20th Century bios chips
and cards.

While ongoing development of pup2.x is necessary to target the advanced features
of newer computer models I think there is a tremendous potential for pup1.09 and
successive pup1.1x developments to accomplish the Puppy mission objective of
resourcing and recycling a significant critical mass of ALL computers.

Is there a future for puppy 1.x? You bet there is !!

[ChazZTheSpazZ]

I certainly hope there's a future in Puppy 1.x because apparently Puppy 2 was too much for my old Compaq to handle.

[BarryK]

I certainly hope there's a future in Puppy 1.x because apparently Puppy 2 was too much for my old Compaq to handle.

"Too much"? -- maybe it was just the bigger size, in which case one of the smaller
puppies would suit you.

Generally the feedback about the 2.6 kernel on old hardware has been very
good.
acpi, yes that's an issue. the 1.08 defaulted to acpi off -- could do the same for
pup2.

[steve_the_sparks]

I certainly hope so also. To my mind the 1.09 CE was a classic release. It runs most excellently on my Sony laptop. It would be a shame not to work on this one anymore.

The mixing of Firefox and Sylpheed for email was about as good as it gets. I have since set up this distro several computers, without any problems. I have used this as a multi-user cd and hard drive install. No probs whatever, except for Graveman cd burner, but that now seems to be solved.

It would be a huge shame to let all the great work which has gone into the development of this distro on this kernal go into stagnation. This is a distro that runs on just about any pc, unlike most non-puppy based releases and surely with such a small team of developers, to achieve so much, especially when compared to the main distros like Mandriva, is a tremendos acheivement.

I for one, will keep running 1.09, at least for the time being. Thanks lads for doing such a fine job and maybe one day we will see computers in shops pre-loaded with Puppy rather than the usual. I think the potential is there.

[bugman]

I think I'm still running 1.07...

[papakanush]

I'm running 107 on my laptop and 108 on my desktop, only I use Opera 9 as my browser. Very nice.

[ChazZTheSpazZ]

"Too much"? -- maybe it was just the bigger size, in which case one of the smaller
puppies would suit you.

Generally the feedback about the 2.6 kernel on old hardware has been very
good.
acpi, yes that's an issue. the 1.08 defaulted to acpi off -- could do the same for
pup2.

I think what happened was I ran out of RAM (swap may have fixed this problem though, I just created a 256Mb swap partition) and CPU power. I noticed that on 109 (which runs beautifully) when I have Torsmo running and I load a program, my CPU load goes to about 99% every time. This is probably why it froze upon trying to load Inkscape and Opera (which are big). It's OK though, 109 suits all my needs for the moment.

Also, while I'm thinking about it and before I forget, why is the structure of the file system so different in Puppy 2? I got really confused looking through it. Maybe I just need to learn more about Linux...

[Sage]

Not a cpu issue, per se, as you can see from dozens of reports here, although I wouldn't give houseroom to Celeries. The cpu is self-regulating in this respect as it farms out tasks; in that respect, 100% usage would seem to be 'efficient' rather than insufficient. Memory, including swap space, seems to be the key to running Puppy successfully. Increasing main memory to 256Mb is always 'better'. Try reducing the swap size? Hopefully, P2.01 will improve the memory resources issue according to Barry. However, it would be even better if we all stopped asking him for more bloat and were satisfied with more basic apps.!

[John Doe]

Also, while I'm thinking about it and before I forget, why is the structure of the file system so different in Puppy 2? I got really confused looking through it. Maybe I just need to learn more about Linux...

I hear you, me too:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=li ... gle+Search

I think Puppy2 is more to these standards:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=li ... gle+Search

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO.html