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Upup Raring 3.9.9.2 with non-PAE 3.9.9 kernel. 13 July 2013
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musher0


Joined: 04 Jan 2009
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Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada

PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 16:47    Post subject:  

Many thanks to the two of you!

So I will install the "catalyst" pet on my current set-up.
I will also try James C's suggestion with my old NVidia card.

Thanks again. BFN.

musher0

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5440
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 18:04    Post subject:  

While I'm digging out old hardware...... an even older Nvidia card.

Raring 3.9.9.2 live....... working well.

Code:
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Raring, version 3.9.9.2

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV5 [Riva TNT2 / TNT2 Pro] (rev 15)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri exa extmod fb fbdevhw glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
674 frames in 5.0 seconds = 134.797 FPS
784 frames in 5.0 seconds = 156.784 FPS
808 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.492 FPS
796 frames in 5.0 seconds = 159.071 FPS
803 frames in 5.0 seconds = 160.581 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Memory : 253MB (130MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Upup Raring - 3.9.9.2
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 26 Aug 2013 05:12:10 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv05 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev20

-Processor-
Name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Family, model, stepping : 6, 4, 2 (AMD Athlon (Thunderbird))
Vendor : AuthenticAMD
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 256kb
Frequency : 851.49MHz
BogoMIPS : 1703.94
Byte Order : Little Endian

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        253840       243148        10692            0        17584
-/+ buffers:             225564        28276
Swap:      1076316          752      1075564
#
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don570


Joined: 10 Mar 2010
Posts: 3075
Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 20:00    Post subject:  

Take a Shot (TAS) has been upgraded to 1.3
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84528

Bulldog finder has been upgraded to 3.4
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78592

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anikin

Joined: 10 May 2012
Posts: 389

PostPosted: Tue 27 Aug 2013, 09:36    Post subject:  

Hi pemasu et al,
A quick question regarding devx - does it include these items:
1) xorg protocol headers
2) util-macros

Thank you in advance.
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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Posts: 5458
Location: Finland

PostPosted: Tue 27 Aug 2013, 11:00    Post subject:  

Anikin. There is xutils-dev which provides the util related macros header and there are a lot xorg related headers.

If you find something missing still....use ppm and download the related -dev .deb.

When I have compiled something xorg related, all the needed headers have been there.
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anikin

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Aug 2013, 15:37    Post subject:  

One more, I want to compile the latest x-server - 1.14.2.
Do I need to have newer headers, are they version specific?
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pemasu


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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Tue 27 Aug 2013, 16:06    Post subject:  

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/x/xorg-server.html
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anikin

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Aug 2013, 16:50    Post subject:  

LFS - that's where I learned about xorg protocol headers Smile
I have already upgraded a lot of x related stuff following their instructions. Now I want to start over from scratch - latest x-server first and compile stuff against it.

Thank you once again.

edit: "from scratch" does not mean I'm rebuilding everything. That will be a long term goal.
For the time being, I'm only recompiling stuff related to x and some other items.

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5440
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2013, 01:25    Post subject:  

Raring 3.9.9.2 live pfix=ram on another old backup box......

All good on boot, needed to use SNS to connect to internet.Everything appears to be working fine.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Raring, version 3.9.9.2

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod fb fbdevhw glx kbd mouse

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
377 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.236 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.127 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.148 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.143 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.988 FPS
377 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.316 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory : 1000MB (186MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Upup Raring - 3.9.9.2
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 28 Aug 2013 12:32:24 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

Multimedia audio controller : Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
Ethernet controller : Intel Corporation 82541EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1000460       651440       349020            0        67468
-/+ buffers:             583972       416488
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
#
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artsown

Joined: 12 Sep 2012
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2013, 14:24    Post subject:  

What follows isn't Raring 3.9.9.2 specific but merely some comments from a total
noob when it comes to installing a printer on any pup. I purchased a Hp Deskjet
1000 and decided to get my feet wet installing it on 3992. The situation didn't look
promising and I went down some useless roads. What saved the day is the very
useful info (and pet) supplied by rcrsn51 here:
www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59015

I first run the hplip_print-3.13.7.pet and then aim a browser at localhost:631
and select "Adding Printers and Classes" ... then just follow through until the final
"Add Printer".

After using the printer on 3992 I went ahead and installed the printer on eight more
pups I have frugally installed on my main test PC without a hitch.

Hope some other first-time printer user on Puppys finds this info useful.

Art
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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Posts: 5458
Location: Finland

PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2013, 14:30    Post subject:  

Artsown. Yeah. Anything CUPS related. Say "rcrsn51" is your best bet to get it working. I dont know how many user he has helped over the years to get printing working. He has helped me too with my builds to find missing culprits along the development.
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musher0


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2013, 14:48    Post subject:  

Thanks for the tip, artsown.
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charlie6

Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 936
Location: South of Belgium

PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2013, 01:53    Post subject:  

Hi James,
and also to happy Confused Brookdale owners/users
thanks for your post !
James C wrote:
Good old Brookdale. Laughing
Booted to a black screen with a few icons.Ctrl/Alt/Bksp to xorgwizard....chose "modesetting" driver.....got correct screen resolution and correct working desktop...etc...

Here living with that ...goooood oooold Brook→Twisted Evil ... and have digged ... to get mesa properly [*] running on it:
Here are some workarounds:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87374&start=63
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87374&start=133
This last is the best for me in raring-3.9.9.X, as it allows to use the intel driver, and also might even work in other late puppies.

[*] «properly»
: for what i need, and imho, a test to check if mesa runs OK is to load the gCAD3D-2.00.pet given along the post at the second link above, and to check how fast the displayed house moves according to mouse motions (just keep Ctrl-key pressed and move the mouse cursor on the house) : if slow or even very slow, then «no success».
Hope this helps
Charlie
ps: modesetting's xorgwizard setting (reported on page22) does not «pass» the above check test ... as it uses the vesa driver Sad
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artsown

Joined: 12 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2013, 09:10    Post subject:  

The interest in Intel Brookdale video driver led me to make a download available of
the driver that works for me with pemasu's 3992. It's the driver that I copied from
Barry's recent Raring pup. The driver name is intel_drv.so and it's location is
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
The file length is 1296092 bytes
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg/

Art
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5440
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2013, 00:09    Post subject:  

Back again with Raring on another semi-old Nvidia box. Everything working and correct on initial boot.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Raring, version 3.9.9.2

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C68 [GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: nouveau

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
377 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.206 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.032 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.024 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.028 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.039 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
Memory : 903MB (196MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Upup Raring - 3.9.9.2
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 29 Aug 2013 11:13:44 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV67
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        903020       649724       253296            0        73060
-/+ buffers:             576664       326356
Swap:            0            0            0
#
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