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Precise 5.6.9 (5.7beta1)
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broomdodger


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Location: Santa Cruz, CA

PostPosted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 22:27    Post subject: Re: PAE comment  

gcmartin wrote:
This current Precise version by Barry WORKS on the only Netbook I have....very well. And, Precise also works, as well. on the 8 other PC configurations I've tested to provide feedback on its behavior.

@gcmartin
Do you realize the current Precise 5.6.11 is non-PAE?

I have 5 *laptops* for testing and loaners, 4 of the 5 are non-PAE, including an EeePC which runs Precise 5.6.11 great.

4 of the 5 would be eWaste if it were not for non-PAE.

These 4 are quite fast, plenty of RAM and storage.

All play streaming video, compile custom apps I develop and anything else I try.

I do have 2 Sony VAIO that are PAE, but do NOT work with the current Precise 5.6.11 because of some weird video driver problem, black screen.

But both work with Wary 5.5. Mystery.

Those 2 Sony with PAE is silly... they can be upgraded to a MAX of *384 MB* RAM! What is the point?

Really if you want more than 4 GB RAM get a REAL machine that is 64 bit.

Bill

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James C


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 22:32    Post subject: Re: PAE comment  

Billtoo wrote:
James C wrote:


Been trying for almost 2 years to have you back up this assertion....... I provided a link and a quote to support my position.

gcmartin wrote:

Yet, this PAE topic continues to this day with members tossing it around with negative overtones and info contrary to facts.


I for one am open to consider any contrary documented facts you can provide..... not mere opinions.


Linus Torvalds hasn't changed his opinion of pae in this recent article (which is all geek to me of course Smile)

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Kernel-3-9-RC7-Is-Available-for-Download-Fixes-Critical-and-Rare-32-bit-PAE-Bug-345300.shtml


Thanks for the link. Smile


Sounds like Linus still really likes PAE.....

Quote:
....the disgusting abortion that is x86 PAE, and a small part of me feels that anybody who hit this problem on such a machine probably got whatever they deserved,” ended Torvalds.


......... another great recommendation for PAE.
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 23:43    Post subject:  

While waiting ........

Fresh manual frugal install of Precise 5.6.11 on a bit newer hardware....all good, everything working ootb so far and it flies..... Smile

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.6.11

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
1622 frames in 5.0 seconds = 324.372 FPS
1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 338.877 FPS
1720 frames in 5.0 seconds = 343.848 FPS
1766 frames in 5.0 seconds = 353.113 FPS
1781 frames in 5.0 seconds = 356.126 FPS

With this newer Nvidia chipset it was necessary to put nouveau.noaccel=1 on the kernel line.

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3374MB (301MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Precise Puppy - 5.6.11
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 27 Jul 2013 10:49:56 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia


Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3374404       738476      2635928            0        88884
-/+ buffers:             649592      2724812
Swap:      6211580            0      6211580
#
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jul 2013, 18:34    Post subject:  

Precise 5.7 is released. I have started a new thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87712

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Dec 2013, 01:23    Post subject: Re: Missing /etc/shells file  

npierce wrote:
The /etc/shells file is read by various applications and utilities to determine if a file is a valid user shell. If this file is missing, the only shell names returned by the getusershell() library function will be "/bin/sh" and "/bin/csh". ....(etc)

I have added this file to woof-CE, https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commit/441a932f3cd1051c4e2f026cc67addf22ec32c94

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Dec 2013, 06:45    Post subject: Re: Missing /etc/shells file  

01micko wrote:
npierce wrote:
The /etc/shells file is read by various applications and utilities to determine if a file is a valid user shell. If this file is missing, the only shell names returned by the getusershell() library function will be "/bin/sh" and "/bin/csh". ....(etc)

I have added this file to woof-CE, https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commit/441a932f3cd1051c4e2f026cc67addf22ec32c94


Would it be good to add this also (ash is the small shell in busybox):

+/bin/ash

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Dec 2013, 17:43    Post subject: Re: Missing /etc/shells file  

BarryK wrote:
01micko wrote:
npierce wrote:
The /etc/shells file is read by various applications and utilities to determine if a file is a valid user shell. If this file is missing, the only shell names returned by the getusershell() library function will be "/bin/sh" and "/bin/csh". ....(etc)

I have added this file to woof-CE, https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commit/441a932f3cd1051c4e2f026cc67addf22ec32c94


Would it be good to add this also (ash is the small shell in busybox):

+/bin/ash

Thanks for reminder, will add.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Dec 2013, 12:38    Post subject:  

Thanks Mick and Barry.

It's good to see this being corrected in Woof.
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