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ninotix · #441 Post by **ninotix** » Tue 05 Jan 2016, 14:21

Hello can somebody explain me meaning of error messages that i found once and a while in /tmp/xerrs.log? I have installed precise 5.7.2 on 16gb usb flash drive with save folder method, also same errors appears on other installation methods and different usb sticks

/usr/local/pup_event/frontend_funcs: line 394: [: -a: integer expression expected

/usr/local/pup_event/frontend_funcs: line 395: [: -lt: unary operator expected

rcrsn51 · #442 Post by **rcrsn51** » Tue 05 Jan 2016, 15:54

@starhawk: The ath5k WiFi driver had problems in old kernels. But Precise 5.7 Retro has k3.2.48.

I set up a netbook that has ath5k using Precise Retro and PeasyWiFi as the network manager. I saw no problems.

rcrsn51 · #443 Post by **rcrsn51** » Tue 05 Jan 2016, 15:56

@ninotix: Those errors occur when variables on the line of code are undefined when the code executes. They can sometimes be fixed by surrounding the variables with double quotes.

starhawk · #444 Post by **starhawk** » Tue 05 Jan 2016, 17:00

rcrsn51 wrote:@starhawk: The ath5k WiFi driver had problems in old kernels. But Precise 5.7 Retro has k3.2.48.

I set up a netbook that has ath5k using Precise Retro and PeasyWiFi as the network manager. I saw no problems.

Thanks for the reply... I'd just about given up, lol.

I was using Frisbee... which, when I gave it a fair chance, wasn't so bad. The issue also happens with SNS. Haven't used Dougal's Wizard, but I'd expect the same there as well.

Care to re-test with either Frisbee or SNS? Preferably Frisbee.

I should probably mention that the Wireless card in question is a Cardbus (32b PCMCIA) F5D7010 v8 (WikiDevi page). While the laptop in question does have a USB port, it's either 1.0 or 1.1 (I've never been able to pin that down, honestly) and as there's only the one, I'd like to reserve it for flash drives and other external USB devices and media.

starhawk · #445 Post by **starhawk** » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 05:02

...that would be a 'no'.

Oh well.

starhawk · #446 Post by **starhawk** » Mon 18 Jan 2016, 04:24

Downloaded and upgraded Frisbee to 1.3.2, also tried Pwireless 0.8.4.

No luck.

Tried three other cards, two using ath5k driver, one Prism2.

No luck, even with the Prism2 card.

Looks like there's something giving a spurious hangup signal somewhere, no matter what I do.

Suggestions?

starhawk · #447 Post by **starhawk** » Tue 19 Jan 2016, 00:23

Can anyone help, preferably using a wifi adapter that needs the 'ath5k' driver and a connection wizard that I can actually download? Frisbee preferred. (I'm now using Frisbee 1.3.2, per previous report.)

starhawk · #448 Post by **starhawk** » Wed 20 Jan 2016, 15:07

*cricket noises*

...anyone?

unicorn316386 · #449 Post by **unicorn316386** » Wed 20 Jan 2016, 15:21

starhawk wrote:Haven't used Dougal's Wizard, but I'd expect the same there as well.

I once had a distro (an early version of rufwoof's wary 5.3 I think) that would only work with Dougal's Network Wizard. It used Frisbee by default, which didn't work, so I had to find the menu for all three (Internet Connection Wizard), then tried SNS (which is what I usually use) which didn't work either, but Dougal's did, so I would give it a shot just to see.

This is the guide I used to begin with (first in Puppy 4.20), if it helps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBo15s8dME

starhawk · #450 Post by **starhawk** » Wed 20 Jan 2016, 15:57

Since then I've tried all three, as well as an early old Pwireless.

Nada.

I think it's getting a spurious SIGHUP from somewhere (or just won't bring up the card in the first place) but I can't prove it.

starhawk · #451 Post by **starhawk** » Sat 23 Jan 2016, 15:42

Still needing assistance.

starhawk · #452 Post by **starhawk** » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 22:02

Two days later, still needing further assistance, none provided.

Am I posting in the wrong place?

Moat · #453 Post by **Moat** » Tue 26 Jan 2016, 06:20

Starhawk -

No idea if this might be useful info or not (I'm not very knowledgable on WiFi stuff), but I'll throw it out here, FWIW...

In Precise 5.7.1 Retro, I've managed to irreparably break Wifi networking (Frisbee, SNS, PeasyWifi and Dougal's) in the past by installing/updating to later Frisbees (and 1.3.2 rings a bell...). The only Frisbee that I found which got connectivity semi-working again was http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... recise.pet

"Semi-working", as SNS/Dougal's/PeasyWifi still didn't work, using a WPA encrypted network. But Peebee's above Frisbee .pet did (reliably). Silly pop-up Puppy heads, and all.

If you're using a WPA encrypted network, does your old box/card even support WPA encryption? WPA hasn't been around all that long, IIRC.

I'd (remember... amateurishly!

) suggest running the connection manager's diagnostics, and report the results - either here, or maybe in the networking section of the forum. Someone more knowledgable than I may spot a clue in there somewhere.

Another suggestion would be to do all of your Wifi/network troubleshooting using a pristine boot (pfix=ram) - to avoid any of the myriad of possible former "save" modifications that can inexplicably break the complex and seemingly delicate infrastructure that appears to make up Puppy's Wifi connectivity.

My amateur-ish $0.02, FWIW...

Bob

starhawk · #454 Post by **starhawk** » Tue 26 Jan 2016, 17:40

Thanks, Moat! I will take a look at that, either late tonight or tomorrow, as time permits -- in either case I'll report back as soon as I know.

I will note, for now, that it feels kind of like the thing can't raise the cards to begin with -- I've yet to get one to work for even a split second with this Pup, and when I type ifconfig wlan0 up in a Terminal window, it doesn't give me anything but a new prompt. No error appears -- but no success message, either, which is a little unusual for that command. Typing ifconfig wlan0 down does give a confirmation of success, however.

starhawk · #455 Post by **starhawk** » Fri 29 Jan 2016, 02:51

Just tested, no luck

I'm really beginning to suspect that this is a Cardbus problem, where the card just won't be brought up -- or, rather, comes up and promptly crashes.

Anyone got some suggestions on a fix?

april · #456 Post by **april** » Fri 29 Jan 2016, 10:45

starhawk wrote:Since then I've tried all three, as well as an early old Pwireless.

Nada.

I think it's getting a spurious SIGHUP from somewhere (or just won't bring up the card in the first place) but I can't prove it.

FWIW - I had much trouble with rtl8192cu driver which is in the distro . It would never work . Connected then disconnected immediately so I ended up finding out that the driver in the kernel is bad and repeated reports to kernel developers ...well there wern't any actually and it still has not been fixed . Pemasu did a pet for me initially which got it working in the old puppy precise and someone made me a pet file for the latest 5.7.1. To get it working I have to run the pet , which puts the driver in as 8192cu and then blacklist rtl8192cu and then it works .

Now I think your driver is older and if I remember it works for me out of the box as 'ath5k' driver but I'll go check that and come back later. Just realised I am without wifi altogether atm and could be out for months yet so I can't check , sorry

starhawk · #457 Post by **starhawk** » Fri 29 Jan 2016, 16:46

I really think this is a CardBus/PCMCIA thing. I tested a different card (prism2 driver) in there and it didn't work either, and the same way at that.

april · #458 Post by **april** » Sat 30 Jan 2016, 01:01

Dont understand the PCMCIA thing Could you explain further?
Its using a wifi driver is it?

starhawk · #459 Post by **starhawk** » Sat 30 Jan 2016, 16:07

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_Card#CardBus

My card is a D-Link DWL-650... I think it's revision B5 but I don't actually remember.

EDIT: Whoops, revision B4. Just went and looked.

april · #460 Post by **april** » Mon 01 Feb 2016, 19:29

OK so there is no wi fi then just a pin connections to the main bus .

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