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Is there another way to set wallpaper for the Rox desktop?
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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 02:07    Post subject:  

I have added basic background to my simple icon tray app (now renamed to sdesk) with the intention of (eventually) providing a full desktop for jwm (or any basic wm) that doesn't rely on rox, but it works if rox doesn't set the background... It would already be done if gtkiconview didn't do illogical crap with the background.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 03:46    Post subject:  

Ahhh... Another satisfied user of GTK ( sarcasm...).

I`ve wondered if QT is any better? I really dislike GTK.

But it`s not so much a question of that, is it.?
It`s which has more and better apps., right.?


# In regards to app. portability, static compile everything the app. uses except the kernel? Exclamation
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 07:48    Post subject:  

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In regards to app. portability, static compile everything the app. uses except the kernel?

Code:
warning: Using 'getaddrinfo' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking

Plus other similar errors. In other words, static linking is largely broken with Glibc. Another reason to investigate Musl, or even Bionic.

That said, it's a valid approach that works *most* of the time, if you give it some love. I've had fits trying to assemble the rhyme or reason to the various incantations and spells I've had to devise to "trick" a lot of programs into compiling statically. Even went so far as to ditch gawk in favor of nawk at one point when I was trying to assemble an all static toolchain.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 10:18    Post subject:  

Nathan F wrote:
Was poking around and found this. Thought I'd clarify - I got the idea for how to change the ROX pinboard background by reading the ROX-Filer manual, simple as that.(...)


Thanks for the clarification.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:31    Post subject:  

It seems that Linux is such a bag of bolts that many tricks are needed.
An assessment of apps. as to their "main stream compatibility" is a good idea.
Some package up nicely. Others are warped, so find alternative apps.

Basing a distro. on a solid parent ( Debian, Ubuntu, Slack ) is most rational.
They greatly reduce the "reinventing the wheel" mistake many keep making.
Doing all of this should be relatively simple. The methods need laying out.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 20:06    Post subject:  

sunburnt wrote:
They greatly reduce the "reinventing the wheel" mistake many keep making.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweel

not me! I would go a step further than the tweel and ... patent pending

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 21:34    Post subject:  

I'd rather just skip str8 to the dang flying cars they promised us when we were kids...
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 22:12    Post subject:  

Nathan F wrote:
I'd rather just skip str8 to the dang flying cars they promised us when we were kids...
If you don't mind test flying a prototype you can (it basically looks like an Aptera with folding wings and tilt rotors)
The barrier for flying cars is not technology, it is licensure requirements combined with general laziness to restrict consumer demand.

Back on topic - perhaps it is time to "reinvent" the puppy file manager. IIRC it was only a few lines of code to add 2-pane option and the top bar could use a bit of improvement too (like using a drop-down menu if the icons don't fit ... like geany does) ... and not myself but I know others want transparency without having to do a gtkrc hack.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 23:04    Post subject:  

technosaurus; Looks like a wheel NASA had on one of their rover designs.

Are you talking about Rox? Can it have tree and file panels?
I `ve always liked WinExplorer type filers. I have Xfe which isn`t bad.
There`s a bunch of them now, haven`t tried them all. Any good Ones?
Lack of control over right-click menus is one of my major gripes.

NathanF; Jet packs, where the hell are the jet packs?
My friend and I decided the magazine Popular Science should be called Improbable Science.
I`m not sure if I`ve ever seen any of the featured items ever come to light.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 23:22    Post subject:  

Rox with an extra pane or two would be awesome. I've tried Spacefm but the menus suck. Nautilus does it, but it's Nautilus and not going to be installed on my pitiful 'puter.

If I had a wishlist for ROX-Filer that would be at the top, followed by making the filer use gtk-bookmarks instead of it's own. And finally, an option to save the window size when exiting because I'm tired of resizing ROX-Filer windows.

As devil's advocate though, two of those three things aren't issues if you use something like DWM. ROX-Filer "rocks" in DWM. The WM enforces sizing and tiling, which removes the two obstacles I find to using the filer productively.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 23:38    Post subject:  

Nathan; Rox has an option to not resize the window.
It`s one of the first things I do immediately after a fresh boot.

Do you mean 2 file panels like Midnight Commander, or tree + file like Xfe?
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 23:52    Post subject:  

I know about that option, just don't think it goes far enough. The filer still opens initially sized according to how the filer thinks it should be sized. I'd rather it sized itself to the same size it was open before it was closed the last time. I tend to think most people expect that, and a lot of other applications do just that.

And I was talking about two view panes, not a sidepane, so you can drag and drop between them. It's an extremely useful feature in a filemanager but surprisingly rare amongst the more modern "browser" type filemanagers. The only ones that do it, to the best of my knowledge, are Konqueror, Nautilus, and SpaceFM. Of those only SpaceFM is really light enough for an older system, but I really dislike a lot of things about the way the menus are layed out. It's not intuitive at all.

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Aug 2013, 00:09    Post subject:  

Nathan F wrote:
As devil's advocate though, two of those three things aren't issues if you use something like DWM. ROX-Filer "rocks" in DWM. The WM enforces sizing and tiling, which removes the two obstacles I find to using the filer productively.

I must put in a feature request to Joe Wing for JWM re sizing, it shouldn't be too hard to add as a <group> option.

It annoys the crap out of me that rox opens in that little window if there are only a few files in the directory at the time.

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Aug 2013, 00:18    Post subject:  

You just gave me an idea. I think I can do that in Pekwm already, but not sure. Have to read up.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Aug 2013, 00:40    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
Nathan F wrote:
As devil's advocate though, two of those three things aren't issues if you use something like DWM. ROX-Filer "rocks" in DWM. The WM enforces sizing and tiling, which removes the two obstacles I find to using the filer productively.

I must put in a feature request to Joe Wing for JWM re sizing, it shouldn't be too hard to add as a <group> option.

It annoys the crap out of me that rox opens in that little window if there are only a few files in the directory at the time.
as in a "minimum width"

btw, can ROX not scale its own damn background images? (rather than using Puppy's scaling hack)

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