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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 11:17    Post subject:  

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For a little history on the last time this came up, read this thread: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82060

There have been at least 3 or 4 more threads like this so far this year, but they usually end up getting deleted after someone throws a hissy fit.


Why isn't http://sourceforge.net/projects/puppylinux/ used? We could host tones of well-tested packages for every "official" Puppy version...

Why don't we have a Puppy github account for all that wandering code?

Why can't we gather AAALL these packages, codes, scripts, translations, ideas into "official" and permanent places for easy download and usage by everyone?

Ok, anyone can create anything, that's one of Puppy's advantages and freedoms! But among with all these Independent repositories, there should also be "official" places to categorize and store all of them. And when i say all, i mean ALL, everything!!

Why should someone "google" for a package or search the whole forum? Wouldn't be easier if all working stuff were archived?


Well its a complex problem. One that the community has not resolved. Offical packages are of course hosted on the ibiblio site. Its the numerous unofficial pakages that are the problem.

I wanted to create a site to do this, but I couldn't get web developement help from the community to assist in this. You can check the thread I made here: [url] http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68001[/url]
I still want to do this, but I need help getting it set up. I'm willing to cover the cost; but I can't code it on my own.

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 12:30    Post subject:  

Q5sys wrote:
koulaxizis wrote:
Q5sys wrote:
koulaxizis


For a little history on the last time this came up, read this thread: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82060

There have been at least 3 or 4 more threads like this so far this year, but they usually end up getting deleted after someone throws a hissy fit.


Why isn't http://sourceforge.net/projects/puppylinux/ used? We could host tones of well-tested packages for every "official" Puppy version...

Why don't we have a Puppy github account for all that wandering code?

Why can't we gather AAALL these packages, codes, scripts, translations, ideas into "official" and permanent places for easy download and usage by everyone?

Ok, anyone can create anything, that's one of Puppy's advantages and freedoms! But among with all these Independent repositories, there should also be "official" places to categorize and store all of them. And when i say all, i mean ALL, everything!!

Why should someone "google" for a package or search the whole forum? Wouldn't be easier if all working stuff were archived?


Well its a complex problem. One that the community has not resolved. Offical packages are of course hosted on the ibiblio site. Its the numerous unofficial pakages that are the problem.

I wanted to create a site to do this, but I couldn't get web developement help from the community to assist in this. You can check the thread I made here: [url] http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68001[/url]
I still want to do this, but I need help getting it set up. I'm willing to cover the cost; but I can't code it on my own.


Who's running http://sourceforge.net/projects/puppylinux/?

There is no reason for server and web design, sourceforge is may be the best solution for such amount of packages.

But if you want to design a custom website and host the packages on your own server (or elsewhere), i can help a little. I'm not a web designer but i can create a simple and practical interface (see koulaxizis.com), probably anyone can do something like that!

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 12:49    Post subject:  

koulaxizis wrote:
Q5sys wrote:

Well its a complex problem. One that the community has not resolved. Offical packages are of course hosted on the ibiblio site. Its the numerous unofficial pakages that are the problem.

I wanted to create a site to do this, but I couldn't get web developement help from the community to assist in this. You can check the thread I made here: [url] http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68001[/url]
I still want to do this, but I need help getting it set up. I'm willing to cover the cost; but I can't code it on my own.


Who's running http://sourceforge.net/projects/puppylinux/?

There is no reason for server and web design, sourceforge is may be the best solution for such amount of packages.

But if you want to design a custom website and host the packages on your own server (or elsewhere), i can help a little. I'm not a web designer but i can create a simple and practical interface (see koulaxizis.com), probably anyone can do something like that!


The problem with sourceforge (i think) is that it puts the responsibility on one person to be in charge. Can multiple people run one account?
Whatever site is used needs the ability for multiple people to have accounts so they can upload their packages, and allow for community comments on those packages. No person should be able to alter anothers files except admin. That way there is a level of accountability and security for each dev; since (for example) you would know I couldn't mess with your stuff and tarnish your work.

An excellent example of this is how the old bebits site ran. It even allowed for different versions of the same package for different versions of the beos. To see what I'm taking about go peek around at http://bebits.com
It perfectly fits the bill of what we need. But... A) I don't know how to set somethin like that up on my own and B) I don't know if everyone would use it.

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 13:23    Post subject:  

Q5sys wrote:
koulaxizis wrote:
Q5sys wrote:

Well its a complex problem. One that the community has not resolved. Offical packages are of course hosted on the ibiblio site. Its the numerous unofficial pakages that are the problem.

I wanted to create a site to do this, but I couldn't get web developement help from the community to assist in this. You can check the thread I made here: [url] http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68001[/url]
I still want to do this, but I need help getting it set up. I'm willing to cover the cost; but I can't code it on my own.


Who's running http://sourceforge.net/projects/puppylinux/?

There is no reason for server and web design, sourceforge is may be the best solution for such amount of packages.

But if you want to design a custom website and host the packages on your own server (or elsewhere), i can help a little. I'm not a web designer but i can create a simple and practical interface (see koulaxizis.com), probably anyone can do something like that!


The problem with sourceforge (i think) is that it puts the responsibility on one person to be in charge. Can multiple people run one account?
Whatever site is used needs the ability for multiple people to have accounts so they can upload their packages, and allow for community comments on those packages. No person should be able to alter anothers files except admin. That way there is a level of accountability and security for each dev; since (for example) you would know I couldn't mess with your stuff and tarnish your work.

An excellent example of this is how the old bebits site ran. It even allowed for different versions of the same package for different versions of the beos. To see what I'm taking about go peek around at http://bebits.com
It perfectly fits the bill of what we need. But... A) I don't know how to set somethin like that up on my own and B) I don't know if everyone would use it.


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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 14:06    Post subject:  

koulaxizis wrote:
You can add as many users as you want and set their permissions...


Can dfferent users with write permissions edit each others stuff?
Can each user have read/write control over their stuff while not allowing them to have read/write over anyone elses? Can anyone leave comments on a single file upload?

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 17:19    Post subject:  

Q5sys wrote:
koulaxizis wrote:
You can add as many users as you want and set their permissions...


Can dfferent users with write permissions edit each others stuff?
Can each user have read/write control over their stuff while not allowing them to have read/write over anyone elses? Can anyone leave comments on a single file upload?


Not sure, but i can find out! However, i believe that it would be better if the packages were tested first by many people in various systems and then an admin (or one of the admins) could upload them. It's more safe...

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug 2013, 18:50    Post subject:  

koulaxizis wrote:
Q5sys wrote:
koulaxizis wrote:
You can add as many users as you want and set their permissions...


Can dfferent users with write permissions edit each others stuff?
Can each user have read/write control over their stuff while not allowing them to have read/write over anyone elses? Can anyone leave comments on a single file upload?


Not sure, but i can find out! However, i believe that it would be better if the packages were tested first by many people in various systems and then an admin (or one of the admins) could upload them. It's more safe...


Yea I'd be interested to know. All packages should obviously be screened. This is why comments per file would be useful. Also it allows others to report if the package works on other versions that the dev might not have tested it for. But having only admin upload will mean whoever that poor soul is... is going to have to have a ton of work to do. The point of the BeBits site, was that any dev could upload to lighten the load on the admin. They could focus on handling the site/server, without having to run every aspect of the site.

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