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CompizPup - an experiment
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Sep 2013, 10:51    Post subject: pet update  

22-sep-13

The setup pet attached to post #1 has been updated to version 021.

The sfs now has Python included - compiz_python_lxpup-0.8.8.sfs

The new version is brought into line with the Change Appearance utility in LxPup-by-SFS and also has the improved installation/activation and deactivation facilities.

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Fabio T

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2013, 10:01    Post subject: Re: Compiz on LxPup-by-SFS on Slacko - an experiment
Subject description: Just for a bit of fun (01micko)
 

Have you tried with any other Puppy distro?

I've tried with Precise but it don't works because after installaton, compiz is inactive, and when I try to launch it by command line it complains:

"compiz: error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-aux.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"

I can't try this missing library, I've tried with libxcb-utiling to hes but it is already installed.

I've tried with packets inside PPM but again fails.

Slacko working fine, but lacks of drive icons on desktop and other icons (how can I do to obtain again on screen? manual setup?)

Can you tell me something?

Thank you for your help.

Fabio
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2013, 14:19    Post subject: Re: Compiz on LxPup-by-SFS on Slacko - an experiment
Subject description: Just for a bit of fun (01micko)
 

Fabio T wrote:
Have you tried with any other Puppy distro?

I've tried with Precise but it don't works because after installaton, compiz is inactive, and when I try to launch it by command line it complains:

"compiz: error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-aux.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"

I can't try this missing library, I've tried with libxcb-utiling to hes but it is already installed.

I've tried with packets inside PPM but again fails.

Slacko working fine, but lacks of drive icons on desktop and other icons (how can I do to obtain again on screen? manual setup?)

Can you tell me something?

Thank you for your help.

Fabio


Hi Fabio

I'm afraid that this version is only for Slacko and won't work on any other Puppy.

You don't really need desktop drive icons with pcmanfm - devices appear in the left pane of the pcmanfm window.

If you must have icons on the desktop then try adding desktop-drive-icons-0.0.5

For other icons - try copying and then pasting onto the desktop...../usr/share/applications is where all applications can be found.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2013, 15:16    Post subject:  

@Peebee: thank you very much. I'll try as soon as possible.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Oct 2013, 12:32    Post subject: Update 6-oct-13  

The setup pet in post #1 has been updated to match the latest version of the LxPup-by-SFS SFS.....
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2013, 12:31    Post subject:  

Compiz is working very well on my acer happy2 (d257) netbook.

The only issue is the enhanced zoom feature which is really helpful for people with weak eyes is still not functioning.

Would be really great if you can get it to work. Compiz is not just something that is fanciful (eye and candy) but it has features that is actually very useful.

And features like the enhanced zoom can never be found anywhere else - not in windows - unless we are talking about capacitive touch screen zooming in ipad, android and windows 8. But when you don't have a multitouch touch screen, the way you can zoom and pan using compiz is more advanced and easy to control.

Part of the reason multi touch screens became popular is because of the ability to zoom. Compiz has zooming feature all the while but it is not being promoted as widely.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2013, 12:36    Post subject:  

pchan wrote:
Compiz is working very well on my acer happy2 (d257) netbook.

The only issue is the enhanced zoom feature which is really helpful for people with weak eyes is still not functioning.

Would be really great if you can get it to work. Compiz is not just something that is fanciful (eye and candy) but it has features that is actually very useful.

And features like the enhanced zoom can never be found anywhere else - not in windows - unless we are talking about capacitive touch screen zooming in ipad, android and windows 8. But when you don't have a multitouch touch screen, the way you can zoom and pan using compiz is more advanced and easy to control.

Part of the reason multi touch screens became popular is because of the ability to zoom. Compiz has zooming feature all the while but it is not being promoted as widely.


Hi Pchan

I'm not a Compiz expert I'm afraid so if you can point me to which controls need to be set in the CCM for the zoom feature I can test if it works on my computers.....

There are so many controls it is hard to know which ones to try....

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2013, 13:07    Post subject:  

Hi peebee,

It is actually in the compiz settings.

Once you put a tick on "enhanced desktop zoom" it will say that "mouse polling" is required and it will automatically be selected.

After coming out of compiz settings, the hot key "win" + scroll wheel up / down usually activate the zooming effect. (This should work but it is not happening for some reason.)

Thanks for looking into this. Will be great if it can work but if it cannot then there is no choice but to enjoy what is available. You have already done a great job on lxde by sfs and now compiz.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2013, 13:38    Post subject:  

@ pchan

Just a shot in the dark, with german keyboard layout I always need to change also the keyboard model from PC-102 to PC-104 or PC-105. Otherwise the super key (the "win" key) doesn't work for me.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Oct 2013, 17:22    Post subject:  

pchan wrote:
Hi peebee,
After coming out of compiz settings, the hot key "win" + scroll wheel up / down usually activate the zooming effect. Thanks.

Hi pchan

Tried the enhanced zoom setting on my laptop and it worked fine - the "super" or Windows key + the scroll section on my touchpad zoomed the screen in and out......

[later] also worked fine on my desktop with nvidia driver loaded.....see full screen shot[/later]

So it must be something in your setup rather than the Compiz sfs I'm afraid that's stopping it working for you....

All I can suggest is that you try a pristine frugal install accepting all the default system settings at first boot and see if that works.

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Oct 2013, 20:54    Post subject:  

thanks peebee,

i am glad to hear that the enhanced zooming is working.

even though i have yet to get it to work. might be my keyboard settings as someone earlier had suggested.

Since, the zooming does work, then it is only a matter of adjusting something in my netbook.

when i have time, i am going to try it on my older hp notebook and see if i can get a better result.

thanks always.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Oct 2013, 04:23    Post subject: Compiz for LxPup13.11 (Slacko flavour only)  

Updated 17-nov-2013

To add Compiz to LxPup13.11....SLACKO FLAVOUR ONLY

Download the Compiz (with Python) sfs - md5sum= 4c20a5596e55ab401362c8f6aefb6922 compiz_python_lxpup-0.8.8.sfs c. 17MB

Save the sfs in a location where it can be installed (with sfs-load-on-the-fly recommended).

on a pristine frugal install:
    1. install compiz_python_lxpup-0.8.8.sfs
    2. install the setup pet attached and answer the questions to modify your system
    3. reboot and create savefile - essential to complete installation

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2013, 13:02    Post subject:  

Hey Peebee

Yesterday I made the decision to perform this "big step" and I've switched from 01micko's older Compiz build to your's.
And I must say it's one of the most polished and extremely good looking DE/WM packages I've ever seen here!

I have merged both your lxpup-by-sfs and compiz_python_lxpup into one entity + added some stuff from Mick's predecessor (I'm very accustomed to ROX Desktop enviroment, you know) + few customizations by myself.
It became rather messy inside, but now I have 4 in 1:
- Compiz with PCManFM's destkop
- Compiz with ROX desktop
- Openbox with PCManFM's desktop (a.k.a. LXDE)
- Openbox with ROX desktop
- and the default JWM as fifth

The following are my observations and issues I encountered while setting the whole thing up.
They're not a bugs really, rather some kind of incompatibilities, so I'm just giving the info in case someone will exeprience something similar.
I was able to recreate them also with clean, unaltered SFS'es.

1. It took me a while to figure it out, but there's something wrong with /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libnimbus.so (btw, seems to be related: https://www.illumos.org/issues/3883), well, at least in a combination with Compiz and ROX-Filer.
When a theme (e.g. Nimbus) that makes use of this engine is set, an attempt to delete a file/dir using ROX-Filer very often leads to ROX's segfault (resource temporary unavailable).
Other engines are ok.
My workaround was to delete libnimbus.so (pity, quite nice engine...) and make a symlink to libaurora.so instead.
EDIT: Symlinking libnimbus.so to libaurora.so wasn't really good idea - now choosing a theme that makes use of aurora engine doesn't work. Oh well, I've reverted that change and I just won't be using those 3 nimbus themes. Negligible detail...

2. Lxpanelx and network_tray don't like each other for some reason. When lxpanelx is being refreshed by the script in Startup (lxpanelctl restart), network_tray disappears even for few minutes, but still working and increases CPU usage to max (only one core, fortunately), then reappears again and CPU load drops.
I had to comment out that part of code and now it's fine.
BTW, if I recall correctly, deleting that '.cache/menus/*' is necessary to refresh lxpanel's menu after installing SFS, am I right? Hmm, perhaps it'd be better to put that command in .xinitrc (before launching lxpanel) or make a wrapper named 'lxpanel' that deletes that stuff and then starts lxpanel..? (Just thinking out loud...)

3. Akash_rawal's destkop_drive_icons app is mapped/visible in the taskbar.
It takes place only in "pure" LXDE (Openbox) mode, Compiz is ok.
Fixed by adding:
Code:
  <application title="desktop_drive_icons">
    <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
    <skip_pager>yes</skip_pager>
    <desktop>all</desktop>
  </application>

near the end of /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml.

4. Missing icons (Lxpanel's root menu & PCManFM) after changing GTK theme (only Compiz).
Fixed by installing the native lxappearance (PPM, Salix repo), however I've kept your script as well, since many useful things are gathered in one place there.

5. In Compiz mode PCManFM's Trash doesn't work.
I've added (copied from /usr/bin/startlxde):
Code:
if which dbus-launch >/dev/null && test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"; then
   eval "$(dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session)"
fi

to /root/.xinitrc.
I'm not sure is it good idea though (dbus is terra incognita to me)...
I had this problem also with Mick's version, btw.
Anyway, now you can see why I called my modifications "messy". Wink

6. I noticed that bluetooth-0.5.pet (precisely: its /root/Startup/bluetooth script) kills and restarts dbus, what breaks PCManFM's desktop on startup.
After commenting out the relevant lines in that script, both PCManFM and bluetooth seem to work ok, but again - I don't really know how to handle that dbus thingie...

After I've managed to deal with the above issues, I can say only one thing: FANTASTIC! Very Happy
Great job, thanks a lot & keep it up!

Greetings!
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Oct 2013, 02:55    Post subject: Sfr discoveries  

Wow!! Sfr - you have been busy....

When I get a chance I'll have a look at some of your discoveries and see if there's anything I need to change....

Many thanks for your feedback - appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Oct 2013, 12:49    Post subject: Sfr observations  

Hi Sfr

I installed the compiz sfs on top of LxPup13.10 to investigate your findings.

I wasn't able to duplicate your trash or icon problems - the trash was working as expected in compiz and I changed the GTK theme a few times and the icons did not disappear.

The burst of cpu use on bootup happens in vanilla LxPup as well as when compiz is added - however interestingly it does not happen with the network tray in LxRaring (my private version of LxPup based on Upup-Raring3.9.9.2) so it looks like a feature of the network tray in Slacko. But it goes away pretty quickly for me as soon as Frisbee acquires the wifi connection.

I'll look at the rox and desktop-icons findings later....

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