Java and Opera Mini

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nic007 · #31 Post by **nic007** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 14:17

samira wrote:Dear mikeb,
You mean i just get microemu first. Then for the runtime, i need the "standard" java from Sun's website? Can microemu be used with j2me?

You need to install JRE first. There are pets available. Then download microemulator and place its folder somewhere on your HDD. I have it in root. Then right-click on a jar file and chose " set run-action" in the menu. Set the run-action as: java -jar "$@" for jar files. You can then run microemulator by clicking microemulator.jar

nic007 · #32 Post by **nic007** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 14:37

mikeb wrote:Yes and yes.... java -jar /path/to/app.jar or .jad is the basic usage...

mike

Hi, Mike.

Minimal requirement for microemulator to run is JRE1.4.2 Being ultra anti any large programmes, I would love to have that old version working as it's about 13mb compared to the newer versions at over 40MB in installation size. So, it will be great if one can find/make a pet of that old version. I've tried to download that old version from Java Sun website before but without luck. Any way to get/make a JRE1.4.2pet?

mikeb · #33 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 15:39

Hmm I have 1.6u0_30 which is a 30MB sfs.

In order to get it an any other older versions you have to join the dev site.... just an email and password job and tell them you work for IBM or something

.... Has to be the horses mouth as by the licensing nature you are unlikely to find an 'official' download elsewhere.

Unless someone here has one tucked away

mike

samira · #34 Post by **samira** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 19:25

Hi mike,
Thanks! It works..

mikeb · #35 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 20:38

Splendiferous

samira · #36 Post by **samira** » Mon 21 Oct 2013, 04:01

mikeb: i was thinking of the possibility of running Java ME instead to keep things light. Would that be possible since most java phones run Java ME?

mikeb · #37 Post by **mikeb** » Mon 21 Oct 2013, 09:09

Well since microemulator is emulating javaME that would have been unecessary if javaME was available on Linux. Then again its an area of which I know little which also means I really don't know

regards

Mike

samira · #38 Post by **samira** » Mon 21 Oct 2013, 13:16

Hi mike,
thanks for the feedback. was just wondering if i can keep it small. for me, it's a waste of space to install 40mb of data to run a mini browser smaller than 5mb.

mikeb · #39 Post by **mikeb** » Mon 21 Oct 2013, 14:44

Well multiple levels of emulation do take their toll on the electricity bill.

Again jme2 running directly on elf would be a better way but I know not if it exists (is it closed source?)... otherwise why use such as microemulator.

It may be related to the commercial aspect of the whole smart phone apps world... easier to prevent users getting files on a phones embedded system than on a pc.

ok old javas for puppy
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/
there are 3 in there...rename pup to zip to get at the files if they won't install.

note from oracle the java ME downloads only appear to have SDK for windows and Macs but I get the feeling you would have something similar to microemulator in the end.

Ok straight from my oracle account as an ace pilot

the last release of 1.4 installer bin....I might have a play myself

removed to to lack of need and I want the space..pm if you still want this..

mike

samira · #40 Post by **samira** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 06:36

I did manage to try operamini.pet (v6.5) and google+chrome.jar (a modded opera mini 4.2) last night. I notice that v4.2 was much more speedy in loading pages even with graphic, but v6.5 was unable to load it fast, with 2 tabs open. any reasin for this? the connection speed was a basic 64 kbps one.

nic007 · #41 Post by **nic007** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 08:09

samira wrote:I did manage to try operamini.pet (v6.5) and google+chrome.jar (a modded opera mini 4.2) last night. I notice that v4.2 was much more speedy in loading pages even with graphic, but v6.5 was unable to load it fast, with 2 tabs open. any reasin for this? the connection speed was a basic 64 kbps one.

My Opera Mini 7 is very fast. It depends on your connection speed. Yours is very low, imagine how long that will take to open a web page in a normal browser. Make sure the picture setting is set to low resolution in Opera Mini.

nic007 · #42 Post by **nic007** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 08:22

mikeb wrote:Well multiple levels of emulation do take their toll on the electricity bill.

Again jme2 running directly on elf would be a better way but I know not if it exists (is it closed source?)... otherwise why use such as microemulator.

It may be related to the commercial aspect of the whole smart phone apps world... easier to prevent users getting files on a phones embedded system than on a pc.

ok old javas for puppy
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/
there are 3 in there...rename pup to zip to get at the files if they won't install.

note from oracle the java ME downloads only appear to have SDK for windows and Macs but I get the feeling you would have something similar to microemulator in the end.

Ok straight from my oracle account as an ace pilot the last release of 1.4 installer bin....I might have a play myself
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/110545536/Misc/ ... x-i586.bin

mike

Mike, have you tried that older JRE with microemulator/opera mini? Don't want to download it and it doesn't work properly. BTW, how about making a .pet or SFS of this available.

mikeb · #43 Post by **mikeb** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 08:35

No... I just grabbed it on request.

But will try it out of interest.

mike

nic007 · #44 Post by **nic007** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 08:38

mikeb wrote:No... I just grabbed it on request.

But will try it out of interest.

mike

Why are we always posting the same time? Make an SFS file or pet file available if you please, thanks

mikeb · #45 Post by **mikeb** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 08:40

Because indigestion from the night before won't let me sleep

mike

mikeb · #46 Post by **mikeb** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 09:34

Ok slick build time...yes the bin did not install so I did it manually.

Its a sfs3 tested on puppy 4.12 ....sfs convert for others.
I left out the browser plugin as it prevented the browser launching...not surprising really as its made for ns6....probably ok for firefox 1-1.5
Runs microemulator just fine.
Unsure if the file saving hack will work with this java.

Just install the sfs and run...no reboot necessary.

mike
removed due to lack of apparent need and i want the space back.

nic007 · #47 Post by **nic007** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 09:45

mikeb wrote:Ok slick build time...yes the bin did not install so I did it manually.

Its a sfs3 tested on puppy 4.12 ....sfs convert for others.
I left out the browser plugin as it prevented the browser launching...not surprising really as its made for ns6....probably ok for firefox 1-1.5
Runs microemulator just fine.
Unsure if the file saving hack will work with this java.

Just install the sfs and run...no reboot necessary.

mike
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/110545536/Puppy ... .2_uni.sfs

Thanks, I'll try it. Pity it has grown to 20MB in size. Wonder if that lite version (found in the links that you posted earlier) will work.

mikeb · #48 Post by **mikeb** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 09:53

that is the 1.4.2 version...extracted the bin and made a sfs..... the former will be using higher compression thats all.

mike

oh the pups...not sure what they cut out of those..... the bulk of the size are the runtime jars.

edit...makes a 12MB sfs ...its an older version and everythings a bit smaller... I grabbed the last 1.4.2 release on the 'it might have less bugs' approach

mikeb · #49 Post by **mikeb** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 10:06

hmm the pup has no midi, and removed locale support and probably one or 2 other bits that it can run without..... could be used as a template perhaps though won't affect load and run times and memory usage as such.

mike

nic007 · #50 Post by **nic007** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 10:24

mikeb wrote:hmm the pup has no midi, and removed locale support and probably one or 2 other bits that it can run without..... could be used as a template perhaps though won't affect load and run times and memory usage as such.

mike

So, would you say giving that 10MB JRE 142 lite pup a go would be worthwhile? Not sure what other JRE 142 pub you are referring to, that's also about 20MB.

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