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PostPosted: Thu 17 Oct 2013, 15:21    Post_subject: Problem with pfind under openbox  

I have detected a small problem with the use of pfind under openbox which I have reported on the pfind thread

It affects both LxPup13.10 and OpenBoxPlus.

Just something to be aware of.....

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Oct 2013, 15:40    Post_subject: Problem found  

Dear PeeBee,

I found the problem cause for the problems listed earlier. It has nothing to do with Lx or Slacko. It is in the PC's I used for test.

I wanted to create a nice puppy for my wife's EeePC X101CH. It has an atom 2600 processor with build in GMA3600 video. That is supported in kernell 3.8 and upward. Since my wife uses it with W7 now, I do the testing on our old laptop, a core-duo HP pavilion DV2000.

For the Eeepc I selected Slacko 5.6.0 because it has kernel 3.10, but.... 01Micko build that kernel with PAE.

And my test PC does not support PAE (actually I don't even know if the atom supports PAE).

Problem is ... it "kind of" works, and only shows problems occasionally. The only repeatable symptom that started me looking was the fact that Mplayer (in Slacko 5.6.0) did not want to play video. It did play the associated audio though.

Running the LxPup 13.10 (kernel 3.4 non PAE) and it works already for hours without a glitch. So now I have to find a non-PAE build kernel that supports my GMA3600 video. Seems that UPUP RARING uses 3.8 kernel with non-PAE.

I'll keep experimenting for a while.....
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2013, 19:51    Post_subject:  

So far I really like it,

I installed it by extracting the files to a USB and running "Grub4dos". It runs really good. I haven't ran into an issue yet.

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Oct 2013, 23:42    Post_subject:  

How do I update Firefox? I don't see anything in PPM??
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Oct 2013, 02:42    Post_subject:  

Amgine wrote:
How do I update Firefox? I don't see anything in PPM??


Hi Amgine

.....really a question for the Slacko thread as Firefox is part of Slacko

however this thread in the browsers section of the forum should give you ideas:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88128

I believe(??) the easiest way is to go into Help -> About Firefox -> Check for updates but you may need enough savefile if you are frugally installed.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Oct 2013, 02:58    Post_subject:  

Use the Updates Manager to keep Firefox up to date with the 17ESR series. This is what the parent distro (slackware) supports. It works fine in LXPup (first thing I did actually).

It is possible to install the latest Firefox (no ESR, search the forum for a pet) and it will update automatically, but I don't recommend this unless you feel comfortable fixing things if they go wrong. The reason I use the native Slackware versions is that it has the best compatibility with the libraries installed. Who knows what Mozilla compile their official version on, probably either Ubuntu or Fedora.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Oct 2013, 09:11    Post_subject:  

Thatnks peebee and micko,
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 04:49    Post_subject: LXpup 131.0 ISO  

Peter,
This is a great Puppy. I have been using your LXPup-by-SFS tool on a Precise 5.7.1 base as my main distro for a few months now (ever since Precise 5.7.1 came out) and it has been thoroughly reliable and fast. This new ISO means a similarly polished distro is available "off the shelf". I may even move back to a Slacko base as a result (though I may miss some Ubuntu packages I've added to Precise). I agree with 01micko, that LXDE looks like the way forward for Puppy now. It has a mainstream, smart appearance and is easy to learn and use, ROX and JWM are feeling a little dated. Whilst 'datedness' is defensible in a distro designed to be small and usable on older hardware, with LXDE/PCMANFM we seem to have found a GUI that looks more modern and is still lightweight. I really appreciate your efforts on this. Thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 12:10    Post_subject: desktop drive icons pet  

Here is a modded version of akash_rawal's desktop-drive-icons for openbox

The mod was identified and specified by SFR over on the Compiz thread - many thanks to him.

I will include this pet in the iso in directory /opt/lxpup-xtras in future so people can install it if they want desktop drive icons

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 14:32    Post_subject: lid-suspend  

Nice package! Played with themes, added vattery and PupClockset manager 2.2.1, set up lxpanel and my external browser and it's good to go.

This first thing really is slacko related, but I'm not running slacko so...

To enable lid-suspend without false 'flicker' when reopened, I modified /acpi/actions/lid.sh as follows:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
grep -v -q open /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state && /etc/acpi/actions/suspend.sh

As an aside, run /etc/acpi/actions/suspend.sh in terminal. Is echi_hcd depreciated?

LxPup specifics:

I haven't managed to turn off tooltips in the application launcher in lxpanel. Box in the panel settings is unchecked and seems to apply to the task bar only. What am I missing?

I did unravel things a bit so so obconf and a full lxappearance install show up in the menu and launch from the control panel. My taste only.

Ah, I do miss my rightclicks though. Have them in Rox, Thunar, and SpaceFM but seems to be no plugin or custom option in PCManFM 1.1.2. Correct?

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 15:15    Post_subject: Re: lid-suspend  

Marv wrote:
LxPup specifics:

I haven't managed to turn off tooltips in the application launcher in lxpanel. Box in the panel settings is unchecked and seems to apply to the task bar only. What am I missing?

Ah, I do miss my rightclicks though. Have them in Rox, Thunar, and SpaceFM but seems to be no plugin or custom option in PCManFM 1.1.2. Correct?


Hi Marv

Thanks for your feedback.

I can't even find the lxpanelx check box you refer to - where did you find it??

One kludgy way to get rid of tooltips would be to edit the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications .....

How many panels have you activated? The panel control is a bit hit and miss as its not possible to specify which panel you want to control if there's more one! The best way is to right click on the panel you want to configure.

Right clicks sound like a good next "improvement" project - trouble is what are the set of right clicks universally needed? Maybe needs some "collection" pets for different scenarios? I find that some pups have maybe too many right click options for things that I rarely want to do.

It's quite easy to manually set right clicks - just right click any item then choose "Open with", select an application from the menu or a custom command line and click the always use box.

Cheers
peebee

p.s. you are running Slacko - so your suspend question is a Slacko question....

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 16:52    Post_subject:  

Hi peebee,
Just one panel, and the toolbar check box shows up right clicking on mid-panel.. and is indeed just for the task bar. I thought about editing the desktops but it's too kludgy for even the king of kludge here. I have a small set of context specific rightclick actions in, say, SpaceFM which offer a couple of choices for a given mimetype. I'll play around with using the "open with" in PCManFM, probably use my send to directory in Rox as a starting point.


All really minor things though. Lots of good in the openbox/lxde combo with a solid slackware backbone and repos. I've used and cobbled together a lot of panels and the 'Go below when not in use' feature in this lxpanel is the smoothest most intuitive I've used. Seems like a simple small thing but it's not easy to get JUST right Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Oct 2013, 02:35    Post_subject:  

Marv wrote:
..........the 'Go below when not in use' feature in this lxpanel is the smoothest most intuitive I've used. Seems like a simple small thing but it's not easy to get JUST right Smile


Hi Marv

That feature of lxpanelx is exactly the reason why I used it instead of lxpanel. Wink

I've found that right click associations are stored in:
/root/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list

so I think the possibility exists of adding new items there - if we can decide which items to add...

Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed 30 Oct 2013, 12:18    Post_subject: Service pack C available
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Service pack C has been uploaded - replaces pack A & B - delta file should be applied to the base LxPup13.10 iso to produce lxpup-13.10-1C.iso

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Oct 2013, 12:30    Post_subject: Right click pet  

An experimental right click pet is attached in later posts

Thanks must go to don570 for Right-click-6.7.5.pet which I've used for the mime types.

DO NOT load this pet if you have made any personal right click definitions as they will be overwritten.

I welcome feedback and testing on whether the provided right clicks work and if any further ones are needed...

The list of mime associations is attached - remove the false .gz or right click and open as text Wink

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