LxPup : a Puppy with LXDE as its desktop environment

[peebee]

Hello Peebee,

Can you please explain the difference between these two versions?

LxPup-15.11.4-s-pae (2016-03-04)

LxPupTahr-15.12.1-pae (2015-12-22)

It seems strange that although 15.11.4-s has the lower version number, it seems to have the later file date.

Sourceforge says that LxPupTahr-15.12.1-pae is the most recent version. Is that true, even though its file date is earlier?

Also, what DEVX sfs should we use with LxPup?

Thanks!

LxPup is based on slackopup which is built from Slackware 14.1 components

LxPupTahr is based on tahrpup which is built from Ubuntu Trusty Tahr components

So the main difference is the different repositories where additional applications can be obtained.

There are also differences in the applications built-in - notably the web browser which is Firefox ESR for LxPup and Palemoon for LxPupTahr

LxPup has had 3 updates since its first appearance in November - hence is now at 15.11.4

LxPupTahr has not been updated since December - hence is still at 15.12.1 (however it does have tahrpup's excellent incremental update mechanism)

The devx's for both are in the post's linked to the 1st post of this thread.

You can only choose 1 "latest" download on Sourceforge per project....

Hope that makes things clearer
Cheers
peebee

p.s. if you're looking for "cutting edge" then LxPupSc (Slackware Current based) and LxPupXenial (Ubuntu Xenial Xerus based) are more experimental.

[ahoppin]

Thanks Peebee, I'll check them out!

I found the DEVX on your homepage, hidng in a subtle little text link. It seems identical to the one for "vanilla" Slacko 6.3.

[Marv]

I just got around to setting up my networked HP4500 printer in LxPupXenial 16.05.1. Unlike when last I set it up in LxPupSC, no patches or additional libs required at all. Just install the hplip_print-3.14.10 pet and go. And this with CUPS 2.1.3

Thanks,

[rcrsn51]

no patches or additional libs required at all.

Not a surprise. Tahrpup/Xenialpup still contain these slightly older libs that have now disappeared from the Slackware spins.

I don't know if they are coming from the upstream Ubuntu packages or if Phil has added them.

[riedzig]

Hi Peebee
I'm still using your excellent LXpup as No. 1 among all distros, but I am also trying to get through some bugs (not found in forums). One of them is the Keyboard Layout switcher/handler), which won't show in any LXPup the appropriate flags in the panel (shows only a blank frame). Do you please know a solution?

[peebee]

Hi Peebee
I'm still using your excellent LXpup as No. 1 among all distros, but I am also trying to get through some bugs (not found in forums). One of them is the Keyboard Layout switcher/handler), which won't show in any LXPup the appropriate flags in the panel (shows only a blank frame). Do you please know a solution?

Hi riedzig

You didn't say which "flavour" and version of LxPup you are running??

Not sure what to advise here....Puppy keyboard layouts are controlled through:
Setup -> Quicksetup First Run Settings

and this won't / doesn't integrate with the LxPanelX tools....although it might be possible to make them I guess....would need further investigation!

This discussion seems potentially useful....

The flags are all present at:
/usr/share/lxpanelx/images/xkb-flags (for LxPup-15.11)

Can you describe why you want the flag showing? Do you swap keyboard layouts frequently??

Cheers
peebee

[peebee]

Here is a small fix pet for Slacko/Slackware flavours of LxPup only to make PCManFM eject CDs/DVDs on unmount.....

[Marv]

Just a note. I've been using this LxPupXenial for a while now (Drive icons on desktop option installed) with lots and lots of CD, DVD, USB flashdrive and SDD partition mounts and unmounts. No issues at all of the sort reported in XenialPup with the mount/unmount button/tab/thingie showing or not showing on the drive icon etc. Just works. Shows up on plug, mounts and unmounts or ejects. Plays CDs with pCD and DVDs with gnome-mplayer on insertion if set up that way.

Pixiedust?

[Sailor Enceladus]

Pixiedust?

As much of a fan of Tinkerbell as I am, I think the secret is that it (Lxde) doesn't use Rox.

[peebee]

Pixiedust?

As much of a fan of Tinkerbell as I am, I think the secret is that it (Lxde) doesn't use Rox.

+ LxPup does use pup-volume-monitor and gvfs as well as pcmanfm.....

[peebee]

Re-uploaded 27-jun-2016

For testing....

LxPup-16.06.1-s-pae-uefi.iso

A derivative of 01micko's new woof-ce built Slacko-6.3.2

Key features:
- uefi hybrid iso
- 32-bit pae kernel 4.6.3
- light-47 web browser in adrv
- LXDE desktop - Openbox, LxPanel, PCManFM

Cheers
peebee

[peebee]

Re-uploaded 27-jun-2016

For testing....

LxPup-16.06.1-s-pae-uefi.iso

Delta - rename prev to 1a - available. Light-47 now in adrv.

[Billtoo]

Manual frugal install to a usb-3.0 SSD, pc is an Acer desktop.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 27 Jun 2016 on LxPup 16.06 Linux 4.6.3-lxpup-32-pae i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18 )

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.1.7

Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1333 3: @1200 MHz

I installed some apps with PPM + compiled a few.

No problems so far.
Thanks.

EDIT: I did have a few problems, get the i/o error window when trying to eject sr0.
Installing pets on a fresh install will lock the pc up, after doing a hard poweroff it won't go back to the desktop on reboot so deleted save file and started over.
Installed the devx and compiled some apps, vlc ran but jerky when playing a DVD movie (works perfect on slacko-6.3.2), ejects the DVD too.
I did a frugal install on 2 computers and get the same results on both,one was on a usb-3.0 SSD plugged into a usb.2.0 port, the other was a usb-3.0 hard drive plugged into a usb-3.0 port.

EDIT2: The problem was caused by one particular pet (I think) so I'm going to start over again.

[peebee]

UPup (Ubuntu) flavour of LxPup

LxPupXenial-16.07.1 {devx} {kernel sources}

Includes Xenialpup bugfixes to 2016-Jul-16 15:04:16

A derivative of 666philb's Xenialpup-7.0.1 with 32-bit PAE kernel 4.5.2

[Marv]

Downloaded, used to update manual frugal install on all intel core 2 duo iwlwifi i915 laptop. Savefile cleaned and checked, renamed to lxxenial-xxxx.2fs to match new DISTRO_SPECS prefix. No hitches expected, none found yet. No errors wrt the intel i915 or drm in dmesg, glxgears FPS remains best of all pups on this laptop. Briefly played and ejected a couple of CDs and DVDs, Palemoon seems just fine to me (I symlink to external profile as usual and haven't felt any need to load the chromium SFS on this pup). I haven't checked SNS, Frisbee, Dougal connection on this newest as I am now using PWF 4.1 across the board -- all pups, all machines. Other than hplip_print for my HP4500 printer the only things not in the iso I felt compelled to add for daily use are uextract 3.2.4 and PWF 4.1.

[Moat]

LxPupXenial-16.07.1...

Just having a very brief play - looking fantastic so far, Peebee. Love the fact that adding compositing/Compton adds virtually no resource overhead.

Thanks!

Bob

[peebee]

Slackware-14.1 flavour of LxPup

LxPup-16.07.1-s {devx} {kernel sources}

ISO md5 = 584882d130a554e552e6dbbb6d3307db LxPup-16.07.1-s-pae-uefi.iso

Things to note:
- derivative of Woof-CE built Slacko-6.3.2
- but with 32-bit kernel 4.6.4 pae
- and browser in adrv is Light (Firefox-light)
- iso is uefi compliant (hopefully)
- non-kernel drivers: Broadcom-wl and ndiswrapper are included
- LxPanel replaces LxPanelX
- JWM <-> LXDE switch included

[Billtoo]

I did a manual frugal install to a usb hard drive, pc is a hp mini
stream:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 23 Jul 2016 on LxPup 16.07 Linux 4.6.4-lxpup-32-pae i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)

X Server: Xorg Driver: modesetting
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.1.7

Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2957U @ 1.40GHz
Core 0: @800 1: @800 MHz

I switched to the modesetting driver because the intel driver couldn't
play youtube videos very well, the modesetting drivers plays them well
but can't go full screen in mplayer, it can do full screen in vlc.

I needed to add "intel_pstate=disable" to the kernel line in menu.lst
in order to get the CPU Frequency Scaling Tool to work.

[festus]

I did a Frugal Install of LxPup-16.07.1-s-pae on the spec's listed below:

Code: Select all

# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: lxslack1607 Kernel: 4.6.4-lxpup-32-pae i686 (32 bit gcc: 5.3.0)
           Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1) dm: N/A Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.3.2
Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Inspiron N5050 serial: G7TPLR1
           Mobo: Dell model: 01HXXJ v: A05 serial:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
           Bios: Dell v: A05 date: 08/03/2012
           Chassis: type: 8 serial: G7TPLR1
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i3-2350M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9179
           clock speeds: min/max: 800/2300 MHz 1: 801 MHz 2: 899 MHz
           3: 804 MHz 4: 815 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0116
           Display Server: X.org 1.14.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1c20
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.6.4-lxpup-32-pae
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000
           bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 24:b6:fd:26:d6:7c
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
           driver: bcma-pci-bridge bus-ID: 09:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:4727
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 64:27:37:d5:7b:a1
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (28.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST500LM012_HN size: 500.1GB serial: N/A
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 9.10GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 192 Uptime: 2:25 Memory: 177.6/3950.3MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.8.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.532 running in lxterminal) inxi: 2.3.0

All is working extremely well. I like this version even better than the 15.11.4 one, and it is/was a workhorse.

Thanks, Peebee for your efforts, application.

festus

[irishrm]

Just did the same,working great. Very modern feel. Thanks peebee.
irishrm.