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Puppy and Linux For PPC Machines Like Older Macs
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jimwg

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Oct 2013, 07:52    Post subject:  Puppy and Linux For PPC Machines Like Older Macs  

Greetings:

I'd like to know what's the most advanced Linux I can use with a PPC machine to revive several hand-me-down old PPC Mac laptops dumped on us. I'd like to revive them without having to (arduously!) replace their dead HD's via booting Linux up by CD. I know there's an PPC Mac Mint project somewhere but don't know whether they whithered away or whether there're other like projects out there. I'd be awesome to run Puppy or any other Linux on these older machines so if you have any info on such please let me know!

Thanks!

Jim in NYC
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amigo

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Oct 2013, 09:21    Post subject:  

Pretty slim pickings for ppc machines... There used to be 'slackintosh' and yellow dog(redhat for ppc) and debian also -which is probably what the mint is.
I could only ever get slackintosh to my old-world mac. It was really snappy though, compared to similarly-rated intel machines.
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infromthepound

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Oct 2013, 06:52    Post subject:  

There was an Ubuntu 9.1.0 for the PPC,
I had a Powermac given with no hard drive, and tried it. I can't remember the results, but I think it was OK. It's still in the shed, though the CDv is probably corrupt wit the dust by now.
JB
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Oct 2013, 10:11    Post subject: Re: Puppy and Linux For PPC Machines Like Older Macs  

jimwg wrote:
Greetings:

I'd like to know what's the most advanced Linux I can use with a PPC machine to revive several hand-me-down old PPC Mac laptops dumped on us. I'd like to revive them without having to (arduously!) replace their dead HD's via booting Linux up by CD.


A lot depends on the Mac model. The only thing that ever booted my G5 (11,2) was yellowdog 6.2 but is long time unmaintained.
Recent Debian/Ubuntu/Mint failed. However, they may work on some G4 models. I wouldn't try them on any G3 or older since they are pretty underpowered for today's linux.
A puppy project started sometime ago, but is long time quite too.

BTW, do they boot from a MacOS-install CD or any of the mac repair utilities like a diskwarrior CD? Is really the HD dead/missing?
OSX 10.4 or 10.5 are very capable OSs that can do almost everything a "modern" OS can do and with TenFourFox browser keeping up with Firefox development is hard to see any drawbacks on going native.
Besides OSX is linux (ok... FreeBSD). Only better Smile

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Oct 2013, 10:44    Post subject: Re: Puppy and Linux For PPC Machines Like Older Macs  

mavrothal wrote:

A lot depends on the Mac model. The only thing that ever booted my G5 (11,2) was yellowdog 6.2 but is long time unmaintained.


Here's one that I used on my imac G5:

rokytnji wrote:
I guess if I found one in a dumpster like I did this desktop I am posting with. I would bite the bullet and install

http://www.mintppc.org/content/installation-instructions-mintppc-11

till something better comes along.


Hi rokytnji, thanks for the link, I installed it on my G5 imac and it's working pretty well.
No sound yet but hopefully will get that working.

Computer
Processor PowerPC PPC970FX, altivec supported (1800.00MHz)
Memory 2005MB (167MB used)
Operating System Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Wed 24 Oct 2012 01:44:53 AM EDTDisplay
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor The X.Org FoundationVersion
Kernel Linux 3.2.0-3-powerpc64 (ppc64)
Compiled #1 SMP Mon Jul 23 08:03:56 UTC 2012
C Library Unknown
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sidOpenGL
Vendor Mesa Project
Renderer Software Rasterizer
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes

~ $ glxgears
409 frames in 5.0 seconds = 81.642 FPS
411 frames in 5.0 seconds = 82.066 FPS
411 frames in 5.0 seconds = 82.134 FPS

EDIT: A usb sound card solved the sound problem.
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rokytnji


Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Pecos/ Texas

PostPosted: Tue 15 Oct 2013, 14:25    Post subject:  

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Hi rokytnji, thanks for the link, I installed it on my G5 imac and it's working pretty well.


Cool Beans. Smile My area is pretty poor so no elite Macs in the alley dumpsters here.
My dumpster dive turned up a Emachine and a Aptiva
<too weak so cannabilized for parts>.

I actually got some use out of the Aptiva parts yesterday

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/because-shiny-things-are-fun-the-new-new-windows-v-linux-thread-848145/page37.html#post5045747

That IBM M41 was my 1st free throw away box that got me started on junk boxes.
It blasts streaming radio through a 200 watt per channel 1970's Pioneer analog amp
through some ceiling speakers in my Bike Shop.

http://www.yourcablestore.com/product.asp?itemid=595&gclid=CPKayMW9mboCFShp7Aod2EMAOQ

Runs wireless usb also. One of these years I expect it to explode and fry ,(either amp or computer) . But not yet.

Edit: Embarassed Forgot this was a Mac thread and went way off topic.

http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install.txt.en
http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/
Sorry, my bad. Embarassed
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rokytnji


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Location: Pecos/ Texas

PostPosted: Tue 15 Oct 2013, 14:43    Post subject:  

Just some Mint Links

http://www.mintppc.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=839

http://www.mintppc.org/content/installation-instructions-mintppc-93

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRr0CgoM2aI

For the Skilled and Brave

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-faq.xml

RPM stuff

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC

http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/12/Fedora/ppc/iso/

There, that should make up for my off topic post. Laughing
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