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wanderer

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 18:10    Post subject:  

Greetings community edition puppy fans

the first thing we need to do to make any iso a community edition iso is to gather together all the artwork that will be needed to indicate that it is a community edition and turn it into a pet. I will go back through the thread and get tubeguy's stuff and any other things that are there. If you want to contribute art please post it on this forum and we will include it.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 18:12    Post subject:  

Futwerk submission: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=739692#739692
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 18:43    Post subject:  

thanks tubeguy

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 18:53    Post subject:  

hi all

The next thing we need to do is start collecting pets, sfs or 2fs files of things that we want to try to add to the ce iso. Look around, if you have anything you like, either that is a pet already, or you can make into a pet, post the info, so we can start to gather these things together and test them to see how they work in our test iso (which is now the woof-ce slacko iso) As i said i will post that iso tonight in the ce repository but you can pick up a copy on the woof-ce or slako test threads.

We won't rename or alter it in any way. The woof-ce guys will do that. This is not about any specific iso from woof-ce. This is a general system to change any iso into a ce iso.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 18:59    Post subject:  

The third thing we need to do, which i will start doing, is break up the ce iso into its parts so that i can manipulate the innner working of the iso without going through the woof process. This will also allow us to add or substract items much more quickly than using the woof process which is still in development.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 19:16    Post subject:  

Hello, people.

Regarding (e)glibc, the most advanced Puppy at the time of this writing
is not the most recent, it's not the slacko being built with mavrothal's
new-born git-hub, it's pemasu's little-noticed Upup-Raring from last July.
Edit: mid-August 2013, actually.
( http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=713317&sort=lastpost&search_id=1420521446#713317 )
It has glibc 2.17.

The interest of putting a recent glibc in a Puppy is that it enables the user
to run the last version of C-based applications on the Puppy right off the
bat. E.g. TreeSheets, or the last published SM or gmplayer, etc.

To use a contrary example, we have to compensate the inability to run
recent C-compatible apps right off the bat in CE-3, by loading additional
languages, such as java, tcl/tk, etc.

Sure, there are excellent programs written in those languages (e.g.
SQLiteStudio, or the BORG PIM, etc., etc.), but adding such languages to
the Puppy adds "weight" to the Puppy. So, IMO, by not incorporating the
current glibc, the Puppy is defeating its own purpose of staying small.

Just a thought. BFN.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 20:40    Post subject:  

musher0

I understand your concerns and agree with you that an up to date glibc is important. What i would like to do now is set up a system so we can remaster any iso into a ce iso. In this way we can just take any iso we want, for example the one you are suggesting, and modify it to suit our purpose. I also am hoping that the woof-ce guys will help us build an iso from woof that will meet our needs. I think we will probably end up with a number of versions of ce. I assume at least 2, one for older computers and one for newer computers. So i see this as a preliminary process not the only iso we will use.

your further thoughts ?

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 21:45    Post subject:  

Hi, wanderer.

Remaster UpupRaring into a CE Puppy edition?

Wow! Great idea! Cool Smile

It's certainly a very good base. It'll be hard to outdo what pemasu
has done with it, but hey, let's try, it'll be good learning for us all!

What does Mr. pemasu think? Do we have his "benediction"? Smile

BFN.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 21:54    Post subject:  

wanderer wrote:
hi all

The next thing we need to do is start collecting pets, sfs or 2fs files of things that we want to try to add to the ce iso. Look around, if you have anything you like, either that is a pet already, or you can make into a pet, post the info, so we can start to gather these things together and test them (...)

wanderer


Hello again, wanderer.

So just a post here, not an ftp upload to some central CE edition depot?

BFN.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 23:37    Post subject:  

musher0 and everyone

for the time being, explain what the pet does and then you can post it to the repository for everyone to test..

We will have to get a big repository to store and exchange pets and other files. I don't think smokey01's repository is big enough. It has only 2 gigs. We can start using it for the time being, but eventually maybe we can just keep that for the isos.

On a related note, we will have to have a team of volunteers, that know the codes, to help people post to the repositories. They can also try answer questions about what we are doing, if someone is not available at the time. No knowledge is necessary just interest in our project. Anyone that wants to join pm me and I'll return a pm with the codes.

thanks everyone for participating. This is a big job and any help is appreciated.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2013, 00:37    Post subject:  

Hi, wanderer.

FWIW, the contributors could use http://limelinx.com/ or similar
to exchange files amongst themselves.
No depot per se would be needed, however
    a central list and
    a list maintainer would be required,

so stuff is not duplicated.
The smokey01 site could then be kept as is, with just an add'l html page
for the files' URLs.

Also, limelinx keeps files for 60 days from upload or last download.
How long do you figure this CE project could last? Wink

Just a thought.

BFN.

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Edit:
On second thought, does tubeguy still have room on his site, and of
course would he still be willing to share some of it for a Puppy project?
tubeguy?

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2013, 00:46    Post subject:  

tubeguy wrote:
Futwerk submission: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=739692#739692


Clean, to the point. A simple circle as symbol of community. I like it!

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2013, 00:56    Post subject:  

Hello, all.

I suppose I'd like my "Alternative pupsave create" script to be included.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=741234&sort=lastpost#741234
So that anyone using our CE Puppy can create a pupsave file, whatever
his/her hardware configuration, and they can easily workaround the problem I had.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2013, 09:44    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
On second thought, does tubeguy still have room on his site, and of course would he still be willing to share some of it for a Puppy project?
tubeguy?
You bet. (Your stuff is still there BTW) Anyone can PM me and I will set you up with a directory under tubeguy.org/puppy and ftp password of your choosing.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2013, 11:21    Post subject:  

tubeguy wrote:
musher0 wrote:
On second thought, does tubeguy still have room on his site, and of course would he still be willing to share some of it for a Puppy project?
tubeguy?
You bet. (Your stuff is still there BTW) Anyone can PM me and I will set you up with a directory under tubeguy.org/puppy and ftp password of your choosing.


Thanks a zillion, tubeguy. Smile
wanderer, what says you? Smile

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