Greetings community edition puppy fans
the first thing we need to do to make any iso a community edition iso is to gather together all the artwork that will be needed to indicate that it is a community edition and turn it into a pet. I will go back through the thread and get tubeguy's stuff and any other things that are there. If you want to contribute art please post it on this forum and we will include it.
wanderer
Community Edition anyone interested?
Futwerk submission: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 692#739692
[b]Tahr Pup 6 on desktop, Lucid 3HD on lappie[/b]
hi all
The next thing we need to do is start collecting pets, sfs or 2fs files of things that we want to try to add to the ce iso. Look around, if you have anything you like, either that is a pet already, or you can make into a pet, post the info, so we can start to gather these things together and test them to see how they work in our test iso (which is now the woof-ce slacko iso) As i said i will post that iso tonight in the ce repository but you can pick up a copy on the woof-ce or slako test threads.
We won't rename or alter it in any way. The woof-ce guys will do that. This is not about any specific iso from woof-ce. This is a general system to change any iso into a ce iso.
wanderer
The next thing we need to do is start collecting pets, sfs or 2fs files of things that we want to try to add to the ce iso. Look around, if you have anything you like, either that is a pet already, or you can make into a pet, post the info, so we can start to gather these things together and test them to see how they work in our test iso (which is now the woof-ce slacko iso) As i said i will post that iso tonight in the ce repository but you can pick up a copy on the woof-ce or slako test threads.
We won't rename or alter it in any way. The woof-ce guys will do that. This is not about any specific iso from woof-ce. This is a general system to change any iso into a ce iso.
wanderer
The third thing we need to do, which i will start doing, is break up the ce iso into its parts so that i can manipulate the innner working of the iso without going through the woof process. This will also allow us to add or substract items much more quickly than using the woof process which is still in development.
wanderer
wanderer
Hello, people.
Regarding (e)glibc, the most advanced Puppy at the time of this writing
is not the most recent, it's not the slacko being built with mavrothal's
new-born git-hub, it's pemasu's little-noticed Upup-Raring from last July.
Edit: mid-August 2013, actually.
( http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 446#713317 )
It has glibc 2.17.
The interest of putting a recent glibc in a Puppy is that it enables the user
to run the last version of C-based applications on the Puppy right off the
bat. E.g. TreeSheets, or the last published SM or gmplayer, etc.
To use a contrary example, we have to compensate the inability to run
recent C-compatible apps right off the bat in CE-3, by loading additional
languages, such as java, tcl/tk, etc.
Sure, there are excellent programs written in those languages (e.g.
SQLiteStudio, or the BORG PIM, etc., etc.), but adding such languages to
the Puppy adds "weight" to the Puppy. So, IMO, by not incorporating the
current glibc, the Puppy is defeating its own purpose of staying small.
Just a thought. BFN.
musher0
Regarding (e)glibc, the most advanced Puppy at the time of this writing
is not the most recent, it's not the slacko being built with mavrothal's
new-born git-hub, it's pemasu's little-noticed Upup-Raring from last July.
Edit: mid-August 2013, actually.
( http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 446#713317 )
It has glibc 2.17.
The interest of putting a recent glibc in a Puppy is that it enables the user
to run the last version of C-based applications on the Puppy right off the
bat. E.g. TreeSheets, or the last published SM or gmplayer, etc.
To use a contrary example, we have to compensate the inability to run
recent C-compatible apps right off the bat in CE-3, by loading additional
languages, such as java, tcl/tk, etc.
Sure, there are excellent programs written in those languages (e.g.
SQLiteStudio, or the BORG PIM, etc., etc.), but adding such languages to
the Puppy adds "weight" to the Puppy. So, IMO, by not incorporating the
current glibc, the Puppy is defeating its own purpose of staying small.
Just a thought. BFN.
musher0
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musher0
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musher0
I understand your concerns and agree with you that an up to date glibc is important. What i would like to do now is set up a system so we can remaster any iso into a ce iso. In this way we can just take any iso we want, for example the one you are suggesting, and modify it to suit our purpose. I also am hoping that the woof-ce guys will help us build an iso from woof that will meet our needs. I think we will probably end up with a number of versions of ce. I assume at least 2, one for older computers and one for newer computers. So i see this as a preliminary process not the only iso we will use.
your further thoughts ?
wanderer
I understand your concerns and agree with you that an up to date glibc is important. What i would like to do now is set up a system so we can remaster any iso into a ce iso. In this way we can just take any iso we want, for example the one you are suggesting, and modify it to suit our purpose. I also am hoping that the woof-ce guys will help us build an iso from woof that will meet our needs. I think we will probably end up with a number of versions of ce. I assume at least 2, one for older computers and one for newer computers. So i see this as a preliminary process not the only iso we will use.
your further thoughts ?
wanderer
Hi, wanderer.
Remaster UpupRaring into a CE Puppy edition?
Wow! Great idea!
It's certainly a very good base. It'll be hard to outdo what pemasu
has done with it, but hey, let's try, it'll be good learning for us all!
What does Mr. pemasu think? Do we have his "benediction"?
BFN.
musher0
Remaster UpupRaring into a CE Puppy edition?
Wow! Great idea!
It's certainly a very good base. It'll be hard to outdo what pemasu
has done with it, but hey, let's try, it'll be good learning for us all!
What does Mr. pemasu think? Do we have his "benediction"?
BFN.
musher0
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
Hello again, wanderer.wanderer wrote:hi all
The next thing we need to do is start collecting pets, sfs or 2fs files of things that we want to try to add to the ce iso. Look around, if you have anything you like, either that is a pet already, or you can make into a pet, post the info, so we can start to gather these things together and test them (...)
wanderer
So just a post here, not an ftp upload to some central CE edition depot?
BFN.
musher0
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
musher0 and everyone
for the time being, explain what the pet does and then you can post it to the repository for everyone to test..
We will have to get a big repository to store and exchange pets and other files. I don't think smokey01's repository is big enough. It has only 2 gigs. We can start using it for the time being, but eventually maybe we can just keep that for the isos.
On a related note, we will have to have a team of volunteers, that know the codes, to help people post to the repositories. They can also try answer questions about what we are doing, if someone is not available at the time. No knowledge is necessary just interest in our project. Anyone that wants to join pm me and I'll return a pm with the codes.
thanks everyone for participating. This is a big job and any help is appreciated.
Wanderer
for the time being, explain what the pet does and then you can post it to the repository for everyone to test..
We will have to get a big repository to store and exchange pets and other files. I don't think smokey01's repository is big enough. It has only 2 gigs. We can start using it for the time being, but eventually maybe we can just keep that for the isos.
On a related note, we will have to have a team of volunteers, that know the codes, to help people post to the repositories. They can also try answer questions about what we are doing, if someone is not available at the time. No knowledge is necessary just interest in our project. Anyone that wants to join pm me and I'll return a pm with the codes.
thanks everyone for participating. This is a big job and any help is appreciated.
Wanderer
Hi, wanderer.
FWIW, the contributors could use http://limelinx.com/ or similar
to exchange files amongst themselves.
No depot per se would be needed, however
The smokey01 site could then be kept as is, with just an add'l html page
for the files' URLs.
Also, limelinx keeps files for 60 days from upload or last download.
How long do you figure this CE project could last?
Just a thought.
BFN.
musher0
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Edit:
On second thought, does tubeguy still have room on his site, and of
course would he still be willing to share some of it for a Puppy project?
tubeguy?
FWIW, the contributors could use http://limelinx.com/ or similar
to exchange files amongst themselves.
No depot per se would be needed, however
- a central list and
a list maintainer would be required,
The smokey01 site could then be kept as is, with just an add'l html page
for the files' URLs.
Also, limelinx keeps files for 60 days from upload or last download.
How long do you figure this CE project could last?
Just a thought.
BFN.
musher0
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Edit:
On second thought, does tubeguy still have room on his site, and of
course would he still be willing to share some of it for a Puppy project?
tubeguy?
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
Clean, to the point. A simple circle as symbol of community. I like it!tubeguy wrote:Futwerk submission: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 692#739692
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
Hello, all.
I suppose I'd like my "Alternative pupsave create" script to be included.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#741234
So that anyone using our CE Puppy can create a pupsave file, whatever
his/her hardware configuration, and they can easily workaround the problem I had.
BFN.
musher0
I suppose I'd like my "Alternative pupsave create" script to be included.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#741234
So that anyone using our CE Puppy can create a pupsave file, whatever
his/her hardware configuration, and they can easily workaround the problem I had.
BFN.
musher0
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
You bet. (Your stuff is still there BTW) Anyone can PM me and I will set you up with a directory under tubeguy.org/puppy and ftp password of your choosing.musher0 wrote:On second thought, does tubeguy still have room on his site, and of course would he still be willing to share some of it for a Puppy project?
tubeguy?
[b]Tahr Pup 6 on desktop, Lucid 3HD on lappie[/b]
Thanks a zillion, tubeguy.tubeguy wrote:You bet. (Your stuff is still there BTW) Anyone can PM me and I will set you up with a directory under tubeguy.org/puppy and ftp password of your choosing.musher0 wrote:On second thought, does tubeguy still have room on his site, and of course would he still be willing to share some of it for a Puppy project?
tubeguy?
wanderer, what says you?
musher0
~~~~~~~~~~
"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
~~~~~~~~~~
"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
hi guys
Any help getting repositories for us to exchange pets and other files would be appreciated. If you get one, just pm me, and whoever else is helping, with the codes, so we can all post on the repository.
I hope that the ce project will be around forever and we will be able to make a continuos series of ce isos. This will give everyone in the community a place they can work together.
I also would like to make a list of everyone that participates in the ce project so that their efforts can be recognized. Remember we are a team.
thanks again everyone
wanderer
Any help getting repositories for us to exchange pets and other files would be appreciated. If you get one, just pm me, and whoever else is helping, with the codes, so we can all post on the repository.
I hope that the ce project will be around forever and we will be able to make a continuos series of ce isos. This will give everyone in the community a place they can work together.
I also would like to make a list of everyone that participates in the ce project so that their efforts can be recognized. Remember we are a team.
thanks again everyone
wanderer
hi everyone
I would like to just mention something if i didnt already. The way i see this project, we will start out remastering isos, and will continue to do this when we feel it is appropriate. But eventually, I would like us to make our own unique ce isos, that combine what we want from whatever project we run into, from woof-ce or whatever. That is why i think it is important to stay involved with woof-ce, since that is one way to build something unique but with the expertise and help of the community gurus.
your thoughts
wanderer
I would like to just mention something if i didnt already. The way i see this project, we will start out remastering isos, and will continue to do this when we feel it is appropriate. But eventually, I would like us to make our own unique ce isos, that combine what we want from whatever project we run into, from woof-ce or whatever. That is why i think it is important to stay involved with woof-ce, since that is one way to build something unique but with the expertise and help of the community gurus.
your thoughts
wanderer
hi all
If you are willing to allow us to put your name on the ce team list please post to this forum with the message "(I'm in)" and your name and i will start a ce team list. When we make the list if you don't see your name, post and tell us.
heres mine ( I'm in wanderer )
thanks for participating
wanderer
If you are willing to allow us to put your name on the ce team list please post to this forum with the message "(I'm in)" and your name and i will start a ce team list. When we make the list if you don't see your name, post and tell us.
heres mine ( I'm in wanderer )
thanks for participating
wanderer