Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.7 - Nov., 2017 - Final

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#46 Post by RetroTechGuy »

wboz wrote:RE the comment that Lucid is one of the most popular versions - why is this?
It's popular because it ROCKS!...

And did I recently mention that playdayz ROCKS!!??... :D

Seriously, thank you to all of our great Devs!...

My observation is that Lucid is lighter hardware load than 4.31/4.32. It also has better stability, and better hardware support -- I don't think that I've run across anything "newer" that it didn't work on. **Newer being machines from the last decade -- my newest desktop is from 2005 (though I did recently buy a "new" Win7 laptop). 5.28 also runs fine on my older desktop. And 5.25 Retro runs on my really old 333 MHz PII laptop (though I recently rolled it back to 4.12 Retro -- the newer versions are just a bit "heavy" for it, once you open a browser).

Looking at my user "pile" (machines which are actively used), all 5 are running 5.28 (all dual boot - 1 with Win98--my main desktop, 3 XP, 1 Win7). My old 333MHz test bed is Win98/4.12 Retro/5.25 Retro. And I almost exclusively use 5.28 it on my Win7 machine (running on a SD card in the side) -- just don't think it's a good idea to give Windows too much access to the internet...

I was given an old "junk" laptop that I'm thinking about putting into service. No HDD (and they tossed the adapter/carrier for the HDD), and it has some keys missing, but it's fairly fast and has 1GB RAM... Maybe I'll swap it in for this tower I'm running -- probably use less power... But then I won't have access to my 5.25" floppy drive... ;-) :lol: :lol: :lol: (hey, I am a retro tech guy!... I recently started going through my old disks, dumping them on a HDD - still got a couple shoe boxes of 5.25" to go through...)
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#47 Post by nooby »

What if people are like me? :)

Nope that is not the answer
I am a rather odd user of Puppy.

But it is a known fact that

"If it aint broken why fix it"
so people that got Lucid/Lupu
working for them feel no need
to test another one like Slacko
or FatDog unless Lupu fail to boot
on a UEFI machine and FatDog actually
give instruction on how to boot their OS
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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Re: Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.6!

#48 Post by Moose On The Loose »

rerwin wrote:The popular Lucid Puppy has been upgraded with its major components brought up to date.
I just tested it on an Asus-701 and all appears to work including the somewhat mysterious wireless network of the 701. I was able to google just fine with it.

Next comes loading it up with my favorite programs.

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#49 Post by bigpup »

rerwin,

The links in the first post need to be updated to reflect the latest version download.
Example:
Lupu is now 20131215 not 20131120

Could use a little more information about the different versions of Lupusuper.
Like what is 1, 2, and 3?

Thanks again, for all the work you have done to update Lucid!!!!
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#50 Post by majorfoo »

just curious - lupu3hd I downloaded on 11/24/13 was 169mb according to my notes. copy d/l today dated 12/17/13 is only 148 mb. Did size change that much or did I write down wrong size on earlier version?

Thanks

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#51 Post by rerwin »

The links in the first post need to be updated to reflect the latest version download.
Done. Thanks for the reminder.
R

Later: majorfoo,
Not to worry. You will notice that the luci_001 file is about the same size. The older ISO contains a 22MB z-drive file file even though the remaster was done without making a zdrv. I found that remasterpup2 always copies the zdrv from its original puppy (CD or iso) but deletes it if it makes a new one, but not otherwise! I have deleted that copying in remasterpup2 in the latter lupu3hd, which was used to build it.
R

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#52 Post by RetroTechGuy »

Hi Rerwin,

There's a fellow who is fighting with a wimax card... I'm out of my depth on the issue (not an obvious simple problem...). Perhaps you can take a look, and/or point him to someone who can help.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90765

Not sure if the card is one supported by 5.28 or not... Or if he has some other "handshaking" or "authentication" issue...

Edit: Reported as SOLVED... Thanks to those who jumped in!
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Solution for gnome-mplayer not showing video

#53 Post by rerwin »

Atle wrote:Video will not play on Mplayer. Just says "stopped"
I found this in playdayz's initial page for lucid pup 5.2.8:
Possible Issue: If you have no video in gnome-mplayer please click the play icon on the desktop to open gnome-mplayer, then choose Edit -> Preferences, click the drop-down Video Output menu, and change to x11 (from xv). The video is set to xv by default because 1) it has higher quality, and 2) the DVD menus work better.
After encountering the same behavior, I made the change he recommended. My .mov video now plays as one would expect.

So, that is the first thing to try.
Richard

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monitor problem

#54 Post by sheldonisaac »

Yesterday I got a Dell Latitude E6410.

The recent lupu3hd lets me see the screen OK on an external monitor, but the laptop's built-in monitor does not show the system tray at the bottom.

When I unplug the external monitor, and reboot, the laptops's own screen works fine.

Any advice, please?

Thank you.

Sheldon Isaac
Dell E6410: BusterPup, BionicPup64, Xenial, etc
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P

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#55 Post by Cadejo »

Team,

Good stuff, It's nice to see this linage maintained. From what I gather, it's a smaller code base thus runs a bit quick than the Precise distro. Are there any other advantages over Precise?

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Re: monitor problem

#56 Post by bigpup »

sheldonisaac wrote:Yesterday I got a Dell Latitude E6410.

The recent lupu3hd lets me see the screen OK on an external monitor, but the laptop's built-in monitor does not show the system tray at the bottom.
Sheldon Isaac
Maybe both monitors are trying to use the same resolution. The resolution set for the external monitor. Probably being bigger than the laptop monitor, the external monitor resolution would be wrong for the laptop monitor.

The specs for this computer say it has a Nvidia graphics controller. Using a Nvidia graphics driver should give you better options for duel monitor.
Nvidia has its X-sever settings program, with monitor setting options.

For the hardware in this computer, (cutting edge for Puppy), you may get better results using Slacko 5.6.
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#57 Post by backi »

Cant get acpitool working on lupusuper .
Cannot suspend on lupusuper .

http://www.mediafire.com/download/uyybx ... 131221.iso

Anybody else ?

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#58 Post by nooby »

to all of you but inspired by post by backi
here above my post.

I should not write at all my brain is becoming old
and not really reliable.

But I do vaguely remember that the only Puppy OS
that promised to be able to do Suspend and Resume
where the one built for ASUS EEEPC 700

Have any other developer promised Suspend
and Sleep and to get back from these without problem.


Maybe I have not paid attention of some other Puppy OS has it?

If I am wrong then I would be very happy to be corrected
because I would love to suspend and resume or
to go to sleep and then to wake up the computer reliably

Maybe it has to do with code for ACPI and such may be proprietary
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Re: Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.6!

#59 Post by Moose On The Loose »

rerwin wrote:The popular Lucid Puppy has been upgraded with its major components brought up to date.
Has anyone already done this?
If not, I plan to code this up in the new year:

With gphotofs, we can extend the current icons appearing for memory sticks to make an icon appear when a camera is plugged in that works a lot like you plugged in a memory stick. The icon will appear and can be clicked on to mount the camera and make the directory appear. To the user it would then look like puppy just knows the camera as a file system and no special software or special GUI is needed.

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#60 Post by nmlkngdm »

Frugal install to HP Pavilion Entertainment laptop
Lupumini 5.2.8.6 20131221
-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5850 @ 2.16GHz
Memory : 3114MB (128MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Puppy Linux
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri Dec 27 16:47:14 2013
-Display-
Resolution : 1280x800 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
-SCSI Disks-
ATA TOSHIBA MK3252GS

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Some updates

#61 Post by shinobar »

May not be important, but some updates:

defaults-chooser-0.8.9-1
# add defaultterminal, check excutable before, opening splash
fix was wrong permissions
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 268#749268

ffconvert-1.4-1
fix was wrong owner/permissions
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54056

grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.9.1
fix was failed full installs on usb flash, my puppy, safe mode options
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51697

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Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.6!

#62 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to hard drive, computer is a gateway desktop pc.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 8 Jan 2014 on Super Lucid 002 Linux 3.2.48 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1082 (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (602x343 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
Number of GPUs: 1
GPU #0:
Name : GeForce GTX 560 Ti
UUID : GPU-7620a950-6e50-f76c-02ae-42352231249f
PCI BusID : PCI:1:0:0
Number of Display Devices: 1
Display Device 0 (DFP-0):
EDID Name : Ancor Communications Inc ASUS VE278
Minimum HorizSync : 24.000 kHz
Maximum HorizSync : 92.000 kHz
Minimum VertRefresh : 50 Hz
Maximum VertRefresh : 85 Hz
Maximum PixelClock : 170.000 MHz
Maximum Width : 1920 pixels
Maximum Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred Width : 1920 pixels
Preferred Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred VertRefresh : 60 Hz
Physical Width : 600 mm
Physical Height : 340 mm

I loaded the nvidia-glx-331.20-k3.2.48.sfs.
Is there a devx?
I installed a wine 1.7.9 pet that I made in Precise
5.7.1 + Fotowall from a Quirky 6.1 pet and they work fine.
VLC 2.1.2 and XBMC 12.3 run well under wine.
I installed firefox with quickpet and it updated to the latest version.

Looks good :)
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#63 Post by rerwin »

Is there a devx?
I think we can use the same devx as for the lupus. Just rename it from lupu_devx_528-4.sfs to sulu_devx_002-4.sfs. But before you do that, try using lupu_devx_528-4.sfs without changing the name.
EDIT: OK, I tried the bootmanager and found it does not accept the lupu name and requires both the "sulu" and "002", to make it show up in the left pane as a candidate.

I would like to simply include both the devx and appropriate kernel source packages on the CD, but am concerned that the larger download might discourage casual users from trying it. What do you think the proportion is of users wanting or not wanting the development packages? I suppose that users of the super lupus probably want the whole thing. Casual users probably have fast connections so would not mind the extra size of the ISO file.

I think, in the future, I will include those packages, unless I hear opposition to that.
Richard

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The unmounting of things with loopbacks contained

#64 Post by Moose On The Loose »

How to show the problem:
1) Mount a partition that has an SFS on it.
2) Mount the SFS within that partition by clicking on it
3) Try to unmount the partition

My partial solution:
I have been working on pmount and this little code fragment makes it unmount the loopbacks in the partition automatically. Unfortunately, the right click on the icon uses different code so I may want to make this into a stand alone script that gets called. Here it is for purpose of discussion.

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  # mooseontheloose:  If a mounted partition has a SFS or ISO etc in it that is
  # mounted via loopback, the umount will fail.  To prevent this if the loopback
  # is not actually in use, we can loop and try to unmount any loopbacks
  ANYLOOPS=true
  while $ANYLOOPS ; do
    ANYLOOPS=false  # Default to not looping again
   while read LINE ; do
      if [[ "${LINE// /}" == "" ]] ; then
        continue
        fi
      LOOP=$( echo "$LINE" | cut -d " " -f 1)
      LOOP=$( losetup-FULL $LOOP | cut -d "(" -f 2 )
      LOOP="${LOOP/)/}"
      LINE=$( echo "$LINE" | cut -d " " -f 2)
      echo "LINE=$LINE  LOOP=$LOOP" >&2
      rox -D $LINE
      if filemnt $LOOP ; then
        ANYLOOPS=true
        fi
      done <<< "$( grep "/dev/loop" /etc/mtab | grep "+mnt+${DEVNAME}+"  | sort -r -b) "
    done
  # end mooseontheloose


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#65 Post by Billtoo »

rerwin wrote: EDIT: OK, I tried the bootmanager and found it does not accept the lupu name and requires both the "sulu" and "002", to make it show up in the left pane as a candidate.
I renamed the devx and installed the kernel source sfs, then compiled
the latest proprietary drive for my graphics card.
Turns out my Fotowall from Quirky didn't work after all, I needed to
install an older version of QT from wary pets that I have and then was
able to compile Fotowall in Super Lucid.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 8 Jan 2014 on Super Lucid 002 Linux 3.2.48 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1082 (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (602x343 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 4.2.0 NVIDIA 304.117

Thanks

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