Slacko 5.7 final - 8 March 2014

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rufwoof · #511 Post by **rufwoof** » Sat 22 Mar 2014, 17:01

Non full screen browser images of the same :

rufwoof · #512 Post by **rufwoof** » Sat 22 Mar 2014, 17:35

Installed xpaint today from PPM. Nice little draw/paint tool

Also can be started with xpaint -magnifier to start up a magnification window. Or xpaint -snapshot to enable a quick dragging over the area you want to capture (I know - mtpaint and pupsnapshot already do that).

Negatives : The menu fonts in xpaint are too small for my liking and I don't think its being maintained/updated ???

gortonc · #513 Post by **gortonc** » Mon 24 Mar 2014, 14:15

01micko--Thank you. I had that SFS loaded but I still show qt as a missing dependency. Nonetheless, I was able to get SpiderOak working, so I am happy for now.

Next question: I have installed py-qt, but it is quite massive. I have seen several SFS files for it. Which one is recommended for Slacko5.7?

Again, thank you folks for all the help. I look forward to the day when I can start giving some, instead of just need it.

puppy_apprentice · #514 Post by **puppy_apprentice** » Fri 28 Mar 2014, 16:26

On my old machine (from 2000) 5.7 is working very nice. Attached hardware/system reports. Btw. is there quite new pup with Dillo or Netsurf, because FF is to much memory hungry.

Edit:
I had only problem (on former versions too) with proper resolution for my graphic card and monitor. So i've used old CD of Knoppix and checked parameters for vertical and horizontal synchronization and used them in X-conf file on Slacko. I't will be nice if Slacko could recognize graphics cards and monitors on boot like Knoppix.

Edit2:
My graphic card on this old machine is Riva TNT2 M64 and monitor is Belinea 17'' (model 10 30 40). I'm using those sync values in X-conf file: H = 31-68, V = 59-85 and resolution is 1024x768. Maybe somebody finds those values useful.

OscarTalks · #515 Post by **OscarTalks** » Fri 28 Mar 2014, 16:49

Hello puppy_apprentice,

Latest Dillo is available as .pet here:-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=92620

You may also wish to try SlimBoat browser
http://slimboat.com
More fully-featured than Dillo and less hungry than FF
Available as .pet or .sfs for Puppy here:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks

puppy_apprentice · #516 Post by **puppy_apprentice** » Fri 28 Mar 2014, 16:58

It was quick answer, thx.

musher0 · #517 Post by **musher0** » Fri 28 Mar 2014, 18:22

Nice!

(with musher0 tweaks, of course!)

Thanks, mick and co.!

musher0 · #518 Post by **musher0** » Fri 28 Mar 2014, 18:36

@OscarTalks

OscarTalks · #519 Post by **OscarTalks** » Fri 28 Mar 2014, 20:37

Hello musher0,

Sorry, I was not able to reproduce any problem. I can only suggest you try downloading and installing again. I just tested in Slacko 5.7 with pfix=ram, downloaded from smokey01.com and installed. All went OK, see screenshot, posting from it now.

SFR · #520 Post by **SFR** » Fri 28 Mar 2014, 23:47

@Musher0: sometimes (some?) browsers tend to unpack downloaded files on-the-fly. Check if the pet is really gzip'ed.

Greetings!

SFR · #521 Post by **SFR** » Fri 28 Mar 2014, 23:51

[posted by mistake, moved to another thread]

Greetings!

Tman · #522 Post by **Tman** » Sat 29 Mar 2014, 13:13

Hi all,

I just tried to download the kernel sources 3.4.82 sfs using Sfs Manager and I got a "broken link" error. Has anyone else been able to download the kernel sources? Perhaps, from a different link?

mavrothal · #523 Post by **mavrothal** » Sat 29 Mar 2014, 13:33

Tman wrote:Hi all,

I just tried to download the kernel sources 3.4.82 sfs using Sfs Manager and I got a "broken link" error. Has anyone else been able to download the kernel sources? Perhaps, from a different link?

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... g_f2fs.sfs
(or from a faster mirror)

Looks like a bug in sfs_mgr

SFR · #524 Post by **SFR** » Sat 29 Mar 2014, 14:08

Here's the fix for sfs_mgr:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 174#765174

Greetings!

mavrothal · #525 Post by **mavrothal** » Sat 29 Mar 2014, 14:43

SFR wrote:Here's the fix for sfs_mgr:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 174#765174

Greetings!

No. Actually that's what is in 5.7 and is broken because the devx grep overwrites the kernel grep.
Here is the fix for the kernel source.

Code: Select all

--- a/usr/sbin/sfs_mgr	2013-12-29 23:50:33.000000000 +0200
+++ b/usr/sbin/sfs_mgr	2014-03-29 17:54:22.000000000 +0200
@@ -112,8 +114,8 @@
      cp -f /tmp/sfs_mgr_input /tmp/sfs_mgr_input0
      fi
    done
-grep -v -E "kernel|krn" /tmp/sfs_mgr_input0 > /tmp/sfs_mgr_input1
-grep -v -E "devx" /tmp/sfs_mgr_input0 > /tmp/sfs_mgr_input1
+grep -v -E "kernel|krn|devx" /tmp/sfs_mgr_input0 > /tmp/sfs_mgr_input1
+#grep -v -E "devx" /tmp/sfs_mgr_input0 > /tmp/sfs_mgr_input1
 grep $KVER /tmp/sfs_mgr_input0 >> /tmp/sfs_mgr_input1
 grep -E  "${DISTRO_VERSION}\.sfs" /tmp/sfs_mgr_input0 >> /tmp/sfs_mgr_input1
 cp -f /tmp/sfs_mgr_input1 /tmp/sfs_mgr_input

You still need the said pet for the devx.
Hm, maybe I make a new pet with both.

A bit Latter: Here is a pet that will correct both the devx and kernel source download with SFS Manager.

Tman · #526 Post by **Tman** » Mon 31 Mar 2014, 04:34

Thnaks for the pet, Marthovol

I am about to go to sleep right now, but will download and test it tommorrow.

nooby · #527 Post by **nooby** » Mon 31 Mar 2014, 08:30

Should I start a new thread or ask in this thread about Slacko 5.7.

Barry recommend we use it and others do too.

The problem for me is that I have Firefox symlinked from the HD
to the OS So Firefox browser need no save file filled with cache

and such taking up a lot of space.

Now if I do a frugal install of Slacko 5.7 having two such
would require me being able to isolate from from each other
so they work well together,

I feel very unsure of if it helps to have these in two separate Directories.
I could maybe make use of two separate computer but that feels like
overkill and not so practical to use.

And one can not make use of both FF connecting to same symlink?

So what would you suggest? I lack needed knowledge on how to do it.

MochiMoppel · #528 Post by **MochiMoppel** » Mon 31 Mar 2014, 10:02

nooby wrote:Should I start a new thread or ask in this thread about Slacko 5.7.

You are already asking, but I don't see how this is related to Slacko 5.7. It's a FF question, not even limited to Puppy.

Now if I do a frugal install of Slacko 5.7 having two such
would require me being able to isolate from from each other
so they work well together

If you run FF from outside the savefile and if, as you say, the cache doesn't fill the savefile, then you must have configured to use a cache directory other than /root/.cache/mozilla/firefox. If this is the case, then running Slacko's built-in FF and your HD FF in paralled should be no problem. What I dont' understand: If you already use your customized FF, why do you care for the (outdated) built-in FF? Just don't use the latter.
Even if both FF installation share the same cache, there should be no problems (my experience with Opera. FF could be different). Letting both installation share the same profile could be a bigger problem if the versions are different. By default the built-in and your HD FF use the same profile directory /root/.mozilla/firefox. You can change this by starting FF with the -profile <profilepath> command line option and thus keep profiles completely separate.

And one can not make use of both FF connecting to same symlink?.

What symlink? Do you need one?

Tman · #529 Post by **Tman** » Wed 02 Apr 2014, 04:22

mavrothal, your pet fixed my problem with sfs manager, thank you.

@01micko & all,

Currently, I have found 2 issues with the new Slacko 5.7.

(1) My wired internet connection was not autodetected upon first boot.
I was easily able to configure it to get an internet connection, but noobs might have a harder time.

(2) When I tried to install other Window Mangers (specifically xfwm4 and openbox), no icons would appear in the tray. Whereas when I tried Jwm with the same panels, the tray icons would appear. I noticed that delayedrun has changed since Slacko 5.5 (I didn't try out version 5.6 much, so I'm not sure about the delayedrun in that version). But when I tried to copy over the delayedrun file in Slacko 5.5 and restarted, my problem was not fixed.. so I reverted back to the original 5.7 delayedrun file.

I hope these issues will get resolved in future releases. On the bright side, the new graphical interfaces are looking nice! Eg. logout_gui, internet connection interface.. etc.

For those who want a more detailed look under the hood of what I've done, please see my JX_Slacko 5.7 release version 0.2 in the link below.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=92693

mavrothal · #530 Post by **mavrothal** » Wed 02 Apr 2014, 04:55

Tman wrote: (2) When I tried to install other Window Mangers (specifically xfwm4 and openbox), no icons would appear in the tray.

This is because autostarting apps have been moved to /root/.config/autostart.
Your panel config should look there for these.
You could symlink /root/Startup to /root/.config/autostart but then you may also want to modify /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc so will not start apps in /root/.config/autostart, or you end up with double icons.
Keep in mind though that option b could be broken after some pet installation, so I would go with option a. Besides, having auto started files in /{etc,$HOME}/*/autostart is rather the standard in linux.

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