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Which Puppy for dual-boot install with Windows Me?
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frerom

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Location: Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 12:17    Post subject:  Which Puppy for dual-boot install with Windows Me?
Subject description: H-P laptop with 192 MB of RAM
 

Hi,
I just reinstalled WIN ME on a computer that I previously upgraded to WIN XP. The HDD is only 6GB and I ran out of space after installing SP3.
I tried installing Puppy 528 when I had WIN XP running but it stalled while loading the ISO file.
Puppy 528 does load on my desktop.
I'd like to install puppy on the laptop as a learning project.
The Laptop is a pavilion N3478 (year 2000) with 192 MB memory. It has one USB 1 port and a 3.5 diskette drive
I have read a number of the posts but need some help in deciding which version of Puppy to install and where to get it from.
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Flash
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 15:23    Post subject:  

How did you try to boot Puppy? Does the laptop have a CD drive?

Anyway, your main problem is insufficient RAM. You'll need at least 256 MB, and 512 MB would be even better. There are low-RAM workarounds, but the computer will always be slow and quirky without at least 256 MB of RAM.
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grump


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 16:09    Post subject:  

I ran Lupo and Slacko (early 5. something) on a Toshiba laptop of the same age and RAM - it went quite well except the wifi (Belkin PCMCIA card) was slow. I used a live CD.
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ndujoe1

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 16:09    Post subject: dual boot experiment  

in some fashion you need to format the HD as a ext 3 or ext 4 and also set aside a portion of it for Linux swap partition of around 256 MB that may get you past the memory hurdles.
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mill0001

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 18:00    Post subject:  

I suggest TTuuxx Puppy-214x version. You can get it from here: http://www.smokey01.com/menu/iso.html
This version is designed for older machines such as yours, Should run nicely on it for you.
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frerom

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 21:01    Post subject:  

Thanks to all.
I tried booting with a Toshiba SD-C2402 DVD-ROM.
It is very slow even after reinstalling the WIN ME. I haven't used the computer since 2005. It's hard to believe we could live with that speed.

I'll try loading TTuux Puppy-214x and possibly reformat the HDD as ext3 or ext4.
I don't need the WIN ME. But I'll try loading puppy with it installed at first. I'm not sure whether I will need to have any special HP drivers etc.

I'll post back with the results.
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mill0001

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 21:19    Post subject:  

Really no need to reformat your drive just try frugal install, that's all I use works great.
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frerom

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 21:26    Post subject:  

!"m downloading the 2.14 iso (128mb). I have slow DSL 1mbps.
I've read about frugal install somwhere but I'm not sure what to do.
Do I load the iso on a blank cd and boot up with it?
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Flash
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 21:45    Post subject:  

More or less. You have to burn the iso onto the CD in a certain way or it won't boot. What burning program will you use?

Alternatively you can use a program such as ISObuster, which I think works in Windows, to open up the iso file. Then you can put the individual files from the iso file into a flash drive. You'll still have to make it bootable though. Then how will you get that old laptop to boot from USB?
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frerom

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 21:51    Post subject:  

I used Infra recorder version 0.52.0.0
I just tried booting.
following lines came up
unknown keyword in config file
unknown keyword in config file
Could not find kernel image: puppy
boot:-

I have a 1.44 diskette. I read on one of the posts that it could be used together with a flash to boot puppy.
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mill0001

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 22:07    Post subject:  

Go here first and read: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60302
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2013, 23:19    Post subject:  

" The HDD is only 6GB "

Should have tried Tiny XP with SP3.

TinyXP Rev09 - eXPerience

""""""""""

I put this on a low end laptop for someone with Win NT4,
ahem!.....for testing only of course.

I had no problems with this PB copy.

Some people talk trojans but it is BS.

I had absolutely no problems so don't believe the hype.

If MS had used this bloke they would be selling heaps of copies.

He is a genius.

His Win7 lite >> install.....fits on a cd.

If you were to PM me I might send you the link.

Chris.
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Burn_IT

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 07:32    Post subject:  

Get a bigger drive.
You will struggle to find one under 40Gb.

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frerom

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2013, 09:21    Post subject:  

Thanks for the suggestions.
I think I will send the computer to recycling.
I look after 3 computers with Win XP at this time and probably will have to start updating to WIN 7.
I will use Puppy on my desktop once in a while and get familiar with it.
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