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My report on Quirky 6.0
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2014, 22:05    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

New installation of Quirky 6.0.5 to a usb 3.0 hard drive running on a Mac mini pc.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 10 May 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 Linux 3.12.6 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.0
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.0.1

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @1200 MHz

It's working great.
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step

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PostPosted: Sat 24 May 2014, 03:56    Post subject: is the kernel updated?  

I installed the 3.12.11 kernel pet that BarryK posted in his blog. I was expecting to see the kernel version that uname -a reports change from 3.12.6 to 3.12.11, but it didn't. So how can I make sure that after installing the kernel pet QT effectively runs the new kernel? Or is there something else I need to do to enable the new kernel?

EDIT 1 - It appears that this dotpet is intended for the Woof build system, so I need to build a new image. Back to study... [Forum time now 25 May 2014, 02:05]

EDIT 2 - For deployment: need to replace vmlinuz in the first partition of the USB key image file. [Forum time now 25 May 2014, 04:29]

EDIT 3 - Indeed installing this dotpet and copying one file is enough to boot up kernel 3.12.11 - no need to recompile or use woof2. This dotpet overwrites three files and adds a bunch of new files, so first we're going to make backup copies:

# cp /boot/vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz.3.12.6
# cp /etc/modules/modules.builtin /etc/modules/modules.builtin.3.12.6
# cp /etc/modules/modules.order /etc/modules/modules.order.3.12.6

Now go ahead and install the dotpet. Finally, if you installed QT on a USB key, copy the new kernel file to your actual boot partition. Shutdown QT and connect the USB key to another puppy. Assuming that /dev/sdb is your USB key:

# mkdir -p /mnt/sdb1 /mnt/sdb2
# mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
# mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/sdb2

# cp /mnt/usb1/vmlinuz /mnt/usb1/vmlinuz.3.12.6 # backup
# cp /mnt/sdb2/boot/vmlinuz /mnt/sdb1/vmlinuz

Disconnect and reboot QT with this USB key. Check results:
# uname -a # should report 3.12.11
# dmesg | grep -E 'zram|aufs' # should output two lines

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PostPosted: Sat 24 May 2014, 07:25    Post subject:  

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but you did reboot before running uname didn't you?
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PostPosted: Sat 24 May 2014, 15:08    Post subject:  

Keef wrote:
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but you did reboot before running uname didn't you?
Yes, I did.
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PostPosted: Sat 24 May 2014, 16:11    Post subject:  

Hi step,

Before you installed the kernel dotpet had you installed the devx-6.0.5-tahr.pet and the kernel_src-3.12.6-patched.sfs?
The kernel dotpet, will I suspect, at least require the tools in the devx. A reboot after installing those and before installing the kernel dotpet might be a good idea.

The kernel source sfs can be found here: http://www.bkhome.org/sources/kernel-3.12.6/

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PostPosted: Sun 25 May 2014, 02:12    Post subject:  

Hi ETP, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have edited my post to reflect where I'm going next: Woof Woof studying Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jun 2014, 23:58    Post subject: Problem with X installing on Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop  

X windows doesn't come up. I installed version 6.1.4. Console video is fine. The laptop has a 32 mb nvidia geforce2 m video in it capable of 1600x1200 (comes up as NV11) but with fewer colors on its LVDS screen.

The odd thing is that the log said that the nouveau module wasn't found.

The reason i was trying this particular distro is because I read a review I really liked, and it has a newer kernel and xorg, which usually is a good thing with this computer.

Any ideas how to get x working?

thanks....
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jun 2014, 01:11    Post subject: Re: Problem with X installing on Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop  

bobc wrote:
I installed version 6.1.4.
This thread is about version 6.0.x Tahr, which I think is quite different from version 6.1.x (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 is newer than Quirky 6.1.4 and it installs to the HDD or to a usb key/HDD only.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jun 2014, 01:45    Post subject: Re: Problem with X installing on Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop  

step wrote:
bobc wrote:
I installed version 6.1.4.
This thread is about version 6.0.x Tahr, which I think is quite different from version 6.1.x (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 is newer than Quirky 6.1.4 and it installs to the HDD or to a usb key/HDD only.


Sorry, I thought this was the Quirky thread because it was the only Quirky thread I found.

X worked fine on tahrpuppy-5.8.0.7, but that came from a link on the tahr puppy thread

Anyway, your answer actually led me to an answer to my question. I'm the release text for the Tahr 6.0.5 it says that the other xorg drivers are not included with quirky, which explains why X windows doesn't work.

Sorry for posting in the wrong thread. I didn't know there was more than one Quirky.
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jun 2014, 01:07    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0
Subject description: Quirky Tahr 6.0.6
 

I downloaded the quirky-20140419.tar.gz from ibiblio and used it to produce Quirky
Tahr 6.0.6.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 5 Jun 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.6 Linux 3.12.11 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @1200 MHz

I'm running it from a sdhc card and it's working but has some of the same
problems as Tahr Puppy.

Lxterminal,htop and Chromium from PPM work fine, Firefox didn't.
The latest VLC 2.1.4 is installed OOTB.

It took approx 5 hours to produce using the Quirky build system, and
I most likely made an error or two.

Pemasu, where are you? Smile

EDIT:
I switched to icewm,added some apps from PPM including xbmc-12.3
Can't get kdegames to work yet Sad
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jun 2014, 02:38    Post subject:  

Pretty bored so did another install of Quirky Tahr 6.0.5. No troubles at all.

Code:
-Computer-
Processor      : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
Memory      : 3113MB (189MB used)
Machine Type      : Physical machine
Operating System      : Quirky Tahr
User Name      : root (root)
Date/Time      : Fri 06 Jun 2014 01:36:40 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution      : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer      : Gallium 0.4 on NV67
X11 Vendor      : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter      : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2014, 03:50    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

I built another Quirky 6.0.6 with the Quirky build system, added the
pae kernel from Slacko 5.7 this time (hope that's okay).

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 8 Jun 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.6 Linux 3.10.32 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

The PPM isn't working properly, it gives a "faulty download" error
when it downloads anything.
I've compiled a few things (conky,lxterminal,htop,dillo) plus
installed an icewm pet for wary from the forum.

Apart from the PPM problem this is working well.

EDIT: Installing dpkg_1.17.5ubuntu5.2_i386.deb from packages.ubuntu.net fixed PPM.
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Location: Nakhon Pathom, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2014, 06:18    Post subject:  

Are Quirky and Quirky "Tahr" 64-bit only?

I burned a CD with Quirky "Tahr" and it won't boot. I am assuming I need 64-bit when I have only two 32-bit machines.

Will it work if I put the two 32-bit machines together to make a whole 64-bit? Hee hee.

But seriously, folks, can I run Quirky and Quirky "Tahr" on these machines?
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2014, 06:34    Post subject:  

Blackfish wrote:
Are Quirky and Quirky "Tahr" 64-bit only?


Both are 32 bit releases and run on either 32 or 64 bit hardware.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2014, 06:57    Post subject:  

Thanks.

I wonder why they won't boot?

Maybe something went wrong with the creation of the CD. I dunno. I will keep trying.
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