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Tor Browser Bundle 3.6.4
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Sat 03 May 2014, 19:15    Post subject:  

Whats the difference between getting the tor daemon and configuring firefox or seamonkey like
http://www.proxomitron.ru/proxwiki/anonymity/setup/recommendations
or similar?
If I do that then i seem to be anonymous and can say access a blocked site using it. In fact i never used to know about the dns setting I just set the proxy.

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Daniel50

Joined: 03 May 2014
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PostPosted: Sat 03 May 2014, 21:45    Post subject: Getting tor to work...  

Hi, it was mentioned earlier in this thread that removing lines 114-117 should make tor work in puppy. however this approach has worked in the past for me, but with the new version it doesn't.

On another note Oscars sfs worked fine for me in x-precise, so it kind did all the work for me... I am still a little curious on how you did it however?

also, would you consider working on a torchat.pet for x-precise? I have never got this to work in puppy, despite numerous attempts.

thanks, Dan
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dream.catcher

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PostPosted: Thu 29 May 2014, 09:55    Post subject:  

safesocks 1 in tor vps..how can i use this bundle with vps without the dns warning?
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phredo

Joined: 21 Oct 2013
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2014, 15:52    Post subject:
Subject description: Works in Slacko 5.6 but not 5.7
 

Tor-browser-3.6-x86.sfs works fine on my non-PAE Slacko 5.6, but won't start on the same computer with non-PAE Slacko 5.7.0, with the same installation, as far as I can tell, on the same computer. After I click on "connect", the "Connecting..." box opens, a few notices pop up on that box, but it sticks at "Please wait while we establish a connection to the Tor network", with the blue bar at about 40% of the way across.

Just to make sure, I loaded devx_slacko_5.7.0.sfs and kernel_sources-3.4.82-slacko_4g_f2fs.sfs, but it still does the same thing, both the pet and the sfs.
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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2014, 22:05    Post subject:  

Hmm, yes, I wouldn't expect devx and kernel sources to make any difference. Is the system clock set to the correct time? Tor Browser refuses to start if it is wrong, although if this is on the same machine I would expect the clock is right when you change Pups.

Starting from terminal with the command torbrowser or tor-browser will give a bit more information about where it is stalling.

I have had intermittent problems with the last few versions not always starting properly. If it only half starts and hangs you have to do killall firefox in terminal and then try again. There are some lines of code that I put in the launcher script to make it so that just clicking the menu entry or icon a second time would do that automatically, but those lines are commented out. You can uncomment them if it helps, but then be aware that any running Firefox will be killed if you launch Tor Browser at the same time.

A LITTLE LATER:-
I just tested it in a fresh Slacko 5.7 non-pae loading the .sfs of Tor Browser on-the-fly and it started and ran OK for me here.

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phredo

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 02:00    Post subject:
Subject description: Time discrepancy
 

It looks like you hit the nail on the head, but I don't understand how or what to change. Here's the final two messages of the torbrowser startup:

Quote:
Jun 08 22:40:24.000 [warn] Our clock is 14 hours, 19 minutes behind the time published in the consensus network status document (2014-06-09 05:00:00 UTC). Tor needs an accurate clock to work correctly. Please check your time and date settings!

Jun 08 22:40:24.000 [notice] I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit: We have no recent usable consensus.


But Jun 8, 22:40 WAS the correct time. I'm in time zone -8 (California), so it seems like the UTC would be 8 hours later, which is close to 6/9 05:00, (but still 24 minutes off). So how can I fix the problem? I seem to remember this happening to me once with Tor in Windows, but I don't remember how I resolved the problem.

Update: I went to Quick Setup First Run Settings, checked the "Set time/date from internet" box, and did the update. Now Tor starts up but my clock says Jun 9, 2:07 pm. But it's really Jun 8, 11:08 pm here in California, so something is still not right, even though I'm glad Tor is working. Do you have further insights?
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 06:46    Post subject:  

hmm clock whinges ... an hour or 2 was usually ok and since we are crossing time zones I never understood the problem anyway.
Tor also complains about versions 2 minutes after compiling it Very Happy

So no one know why there is a need for a 'special' tor browser then since I just use standard firefox?

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step

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 17:11    Post subject:  

mikeb wrote:

So no one know why there is a need for a 'special' tor browser then since I just use standard firefox?
Maybe I misunderstood your questions, but I think a special tor browser is useful for the scores of people who need pretty good privacy (from their oppressive government's eyes, etc.) and aren't technical enough to know how to attain it.
I prefer using the Tor-browser bundle because it's hardened by people who (should) keep current on all possible security exploits, while I don't.

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mikeb


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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 18:57    Post subject:  

ah ok... just seemed like a quick config change but wanted to know if I was missing something.
I pop on tor when there are sites who seem to have a problem with where I live usually so its handy to just flip the proxy setting when that happens.

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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 08:16    Post subject:  

New versions of Tor Browser Bundle are released fairly frequently and I try to package and upload them as soon as I become aware of them. I then edit the first post and title of this thread with the new version number but I don't keep bumping the thread every time. Interested parties should keep an eye on the thread for updates. I will just mention that today I have updated to version 3.6.4

Change Log:-
Tor Browser 3.6.4 -- All Platforms
Update Tor to 0.2.4.23
Update Tor launcher to 0.2.5.6
Update OpenSSL to 1.0.1i
Backported Tor Patches:
Bug 11654: Properly apply the fix for malformed bug11156 log message
Bug 11200: Fix a hang during bootstrap introduced in the initial
bug11200 patch.
Update NoScript to 2.6.8.36
Bug 9516: Send Tor Launcher log messages to Browser Console
Update Torbutton to 1.6.11.1
Bug 11472: Adjust about:tor font and logo positioning to avoid overlap
Bug 12680: Fix Torbutton about url.

Hopefully the problem of (sometimes) hanging at startup which I have experienced with the last few versions is now fixed in this one.

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phredo

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Aug 2014, 18:41    Post subject:  

My previous problem of Tor not starting in Slacko 5.7 was resolved when I got my computer clock straightened out, but I have another question.

When I unloaded the sfs in order to use the latest version Tor, I noticed most of the software remains in the my-applications folder. Feeling perplexed, I have instead been handling updates by just getting the linux Tor from their website and replacing the four folders in my-applications and leaving the "start-tor-browser" file behind, since it has the "don't start tor in root" lines removed. This has been working fine as far as updating goes, but I notice my Puppy savefile gets larger when I do this. In general, I have noticed that sometimes if I delete something and then add the same thing back, my savefile increases. It's as if it's not seeing the deletions but only the additions.

Is there anything I can do to subtract these, seemingly "ghost", files from my savefile to keep it small?
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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Aug 2014, 03:40    Post subject:  

@ phredo

What I do is unload the old .sfs and then delete all the data from the save file by going to /initrd/pup_rw/root/my-applications and deleting the entire tor-browser directory and contents.

This does remove all the cache and profile data including any preferences settings, bookmarks and add-ons. You may want to try to back those up somehow, but I only have a few settings and 3 or 4 bookmarks so I just load the new version .sfs and then put them back in again.

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phredo

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PostPosted: Yesterday, at 15:31    Post subject:  

Deleting the folder from my-applications and then loading you latest version does seem the best course. I still think my savefile is growing without an obvious reason, but that's not because of tor-browser specifically, I'm sure, just something that seems to happen (to me) in Puppy. And you are really prompt about putting up the latest version, so there's not much need for me to do the procedure I mentioned of downloading from the official source and replacing the folders in my-applications/tor-browser, although that does seem to work.

By the way, does it matter if I delete the old version from /initrd/pup_rw/root/my-applications or just /root/my-applications? Are they really the same place, like the two places to access My Documents in Windows?
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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Today, at 05:31    Post subject:  

They are not really different names for the same place but deleting them from either location after the .sfs has been unloaded will have the same effect.

As I understand it, the pup_rw directory is the stuff in the save-file and is the top layer in the layered file system. The overall file system also contains the other layers underneath which is made up of the main puppy .sfs and other .sfs files which you have loaded. Deleting a file from pup_rw will delete it from the overall system unless there is a file of the same name in the layers underneath (in which case that underneath version becomes exposed or re-exposed and becomes the file as seen in the overall system).

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