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Tor Browser Bundle 7.0.10
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Rodney Byne

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Nov 2015, 09:21    Post subject: Running Tor 5.0.4.pet in Quirky  

Hello OscarTalks,

Tor 5.0.4.pet runs perfectly in Slacko 5.9.3, but I find
that although it installs ok in Quirky 6.1.4 & April 7.2.1,
for example, it doesn't run in either.
Terminal mode shows no errors, so can you please advise
what will make it burst into life.

I know Barry K re-compiled Quirky in T2, is that a
contributory factor or is there some deeper reason?

After reading your previous pages, would it help to
run killall seamonkey where appropriate?

Assistance would be appreciated.

Best regards.
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Sun 08 Nov 2015, 13:14    Post subject:  

Hello Rodney Byne,

I think the problem is because there are differences between Quirky and Puppy including the filesystem structure. In Quirky the user's HOME directory is /file not /root

My packages are designed for Puppy and put the main tor-browser directory under /root/my-applications because the user data is all stored internally inside the tor-browser directory. I did not want this directory in the system files even though it would all work when running as root. With frugal installs it is better to move the directory to somewhere under /mnt/home as this prevents using up of any save-file space although the function is not changed in any way.

The point is though that once I have done my couple of tweaks, the browser all runs from the tor-browser directory which can be run from anywhere and stores everything inside itself. You should be able to move it to a location under /file but then you would need to edit the launcher script in /usr/bin to give it the correct path.

I did do some tests with April 7.0.4.1 but I don't run Quirky at present. You could have a go at the modifications yourself or maybe I will take a look and report back.

EDIT:- Just doing a quick test and it doesn't launch but I just remembered that Quirky doesn't have dbus so that might be another problem. Running Quirky as Live CD so I don't think I can test this because installing dbus requires a reboot I believe. If you have Quirky installed try installing dbus and dbus-glib from PPM then reboot and try tor-browser again. The /root location may be OK. Sorry but I am just not that familiar with the quirks of Quirky.

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Rodney Byne

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Nov 2015, 19:06    Post subject: Re Tor browser  

Thanks so far Oscar.

Being a 70yo pensioner, I'm not a coder so would much prefer
if you could look at the above yourself & as you say report back.

However I can tell you that dBus & dBus-glib are already installed
in April 7.2.1.

Now I moved the whole Tor-browser directory into /mnt/home/
and edited /usr/bin line 12 from what it was, to this:
# exec /mnt/home/tor-browser/Browser/start-tor-browser-puppy"$@"

When I enter tor-browser into console, I get this back:
# tor-browser
# /usr/bin/tor-browser: line 12: /root/my-applications/tor-browser/Browser/start-tor-browser-puppy: No such file or directory

But I'm not on Puppy, I'm on April now anyway, so the above line must therefore be invalid & Tor can't launch.

So I seem to be back where I started - I'm out of my depth Oscar,
this is way over my head.

Could you write us all a pet that just works please for the whole Quirky and April family, it would save a great deal of time for everyone who wants to use Tor in this newer forked range of distros.

Many thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Nov 2015, 20:03    Post subject:  

Really sorry but I may not be able to offer support for Tor Browser in Quirky at this time. If I get chance to take a look later I will but I am not sure about the persistence situation and I don't want to install it. It may not be practical to offer a .pet anyway if it depends on dbus. It might be an idea to post in the Quirky thread and see if BK or one of the regular users in there can offer any suggestions.
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Dec 2015, 07:07    Post subject:  

Version 5.0.5 has been released but this includes an upgrade of the browser. Is anyone else finding that it now rejects Flash Player because it is not happy with the Flash version 11.2?
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cimarron


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Dec 2015, 13:37    Post subject:  

Thanks for the update. I noticed that the flash plugin was disabled by default (I think all plugins were disabled) though I had it enabled in my previous Tor-browser profile. It did work when I enabled it. No complaints about 11.2.

Youtube seemed to use HTML5 by default, though...
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Dec 2015, 18:55    Post subject:  

Thanks for the reply on that. I hardly ever use Tor Browser so it is probably pilot error on my part, but with 5.0.4 provided I enable plugins it was working with FlashPlayer 10.3 or 11.2 with just the "allow" dialogue popping up sometimes. When I try exactly the same thing with 5.0.5 the video window is just redirecting to the Adobe page for installing FlashPlayer 20. Anyway, will continue to test when I get some time and see if I can figure it out.
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2015, 14:51    Post subject:  

A very quick bug-fix update 5.0.6 has been released so the packages are updated accordingly.

I still found that my Flash Player would not work at all with the default settings or by enabling plugins in the Preferences in the normal way. On the TorProject blog post there are lots of other similar complaints including from people running Windows and Flash 20 so looks like it is not just a problem of the Flash number in Linux being stuck on 11.2

Some of the purists on the Tor blog are insisting very loudly that Adobe Flash should not be used with Tor anyway because of the vulnerabilities, but there may be occasions when you need Flash player for something. So long as you activate it at your own risk and disable it again when you have finished it makes more sense to have it available rather than completely disabled.

The workaround to enable Flash (at the expense of one of your privacy settings) now seems to be to uncheck the option "Change details that distinguish you from other Tor Browser users" in the Privacy and Security Settings of the Tor "Green Onion" button.

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2015, 17:04    Post subject:  

Further testing showed flash problems for me, too. It would work on some sites but not others. Your workaround seems to solve it.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jan 2016, 16:14    Post subject:  

With the new version 5.5, Youtube would always use HTML5 for me, even with the workaround (above). That uses considerably more resources that my old computer can't afford, so I tried this addon and it made flash work on Youtube:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Us/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-video-player/
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2016, 09:31    Post subject:  

I wondered why the latest Tor browser packages are much larger, and it looks like there's a new font directory included. It's /root/my-applications/tor-browser/Browser/fonts and is about 25M. I tried deleting it and the browser seems to work fine without it.
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stevielee

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Mar 2016, 17:19    Post subject: Another one?!?!?
Subject description: WTF?!?!?!?!?
 

Thanks as always for your updates of TBB and many other "puppified" goodies at smokey's place. But seriously, how often is the Tor project going to issue new versions, anyway? If I see that "browser is out of date" thing one more time......
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Mar 2016, 21:41    Post subject:  

Another new version 5.5.4 is out now. I have put together a 64bit version as well. I might have to host those at Yandex Disk though. This has been tested briefly in Tahrpup64 and Slacko64. Auto Updates appear to be working. See first post.
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tano70

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PostPosted: Wed 18 May 2016, 02:45    Post subject:  

Please 32 bit version of tor 5.5? i use Xslaxko
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PostPosted: Wed 18 May 2016, 05:15    Post subject:  

Packages were updated to latest version which is 5.5.5 some days ago.
Updates are released fairly often so I don't always bump the thread with a fresh post at the end.
See thread title and first post.
Auto updates should work if they are allowed in Preferences settings.

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