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Cinelerra 4.2 videoeditor
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don570


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 20:48    Post subject:  Cinelerra 4.2 videoeditor  

Cinelerra 4.2 video editor
for Quirky6 Precise Raring Slacko w5 rolx and probably many others...

http://www.datafilehost.com/d/5d2cffaa
37.2 mb



Download and open archive to get the goodies.

Somebody compiled this in Wary 5 (presumably) and posted it.
I've changed the package ---> It needed a proper desktop file
and the mo files didn't work so I removed them.

Whoever did the compiling knew his stuff Cool
It works well opening .mov videos

list of archive contents:

cinelerra-w5-4.2a.pet --> application
examples.tar.gz ----> some optional examples
optional fonts pet package - not needed!!!
libxv.pet ---->needed only by Quirky6

Tip: The first time run from terminal (/usr/share/cinelerra/cinelerra)
And check if more dependencies are needed.
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Some notes:

- avi files --> some will open properly, others don't. Example package
has an avi file that won't open properly.

- mov format ---> most seem to open however I included an example
where the audio was in reverse?? EDIT: version-4.2 opens this correctly

- mpeg and mpeg2 seem to work best. They are fast and reliable.

-click on edit button , drag video window to select , copy command and
paste command. Fading is done by dragging of a white horizontal line.
Lots of effects are possible

- render and save as quicktime for linux (I assume this is mov format??)

- When you open a video file make sure that it is replacing a previous
project rather than appending. Also watch bottom of cinelerra window
to observe messages. The time to load is given (ETA)

- Viewer window doesn't work but fortunately Compositor window does.

- There are a couple of sites for newbies that I recommend .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzhidfw5koQ
http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/
http://robfisher.net/linux/video/cinelerra1.html


- Opening a mp3 file (or wav ) is possible and you can edit it.

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Dud

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Jan 2014, 14:19    Post subject: Re: Cinelerra 2.2 video editor for Quirky6 Precise Raring Slacko  

Download and open archive to get the goodies.

Thank you. I will take a look in time for my next project.

I was able to compile cinelerra 2.2 in Quirky6.

I presume this is the CV fork..? How does it relate to v4.1 in pet_packages-5 ?


- Viewer window doesn't work but fortunately Compositor window does.

Likewise 4.1

Cheerio,
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Jan 2014, 21:05    Post subject:  

I found cinelerra 4.2 'hidden' at the ol smokey site

It was well compiled but the mo files don't work.

I checked in rolx . It should work in many other distros.

See first post to download.

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Jan 2014, 00:17    Post subject: Thanks don  

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Jan 2014, 05:25    Post subject: Downloaded Cinelarra 4.2
Subject description: Lecture OK (Precise Puppy)
 

Downloaded Cinelarra 4.2. On test soon.
I had in my tool case cinearra 2.0.pet but was exploding as soon as clicking on ! Smile
cinelerra-w5-4.2a.pet: 9404 K (only)
First step : reading a video (MP4) is ok. Fine !
Further test : Editing video, hum... ! Audio quality hum...

"Otherwise I found a workaround to import correctly in cinelerra:
* Open the AVI file with Audacity. It will load only the audio track.
* Save the audio track as .ogg
* Open the AVI file with Cinelerra
* Delete the audio track and substitute it with the .ogg audio file

This actually works, but I have problems also rendering the file with Cinelerra: a very few formats seem to be supported, among with AVI, but the rendering of the audio is terrible (once again)."

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Jan 2014, 07:56    Post subject:  

That was quick!

Thanks again, 4.2 is back on the Heroine Virtual track (http://www.heroinewarrior.com/) and is mostly bugfixes for 4.1

Should be painless for me to migrate.

Cheerio.
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 13:12    Post subject: pet for cinelerra unpacked at /mnt/home  

Hi all,
Thanks again don570 and the anonymous creator.
With the limitations don570 noted, Cinelerra works in raring, Saluki and Carolna. Also Slacko 5.6/7 and Tahrpup. As I test and often run several puppy derivatives, when one application works in many I prefer --rather than using disk space to install pets into each-- to run such application either as an SFS or [whenever possible] as an external application [program folder] unpacked at /mnt/home.
This is easy to do. After you've unpacked the archive, just change the ending of only the cinelerra pet from "pet" to tgz, and then unpack it. As it's usable in several Pups, I renamed the directory simply to "cinelerra". Move the resulting directory to /mnt/home. You can start it by just clicking its executable now in /mnt/home/cinelerra. But to make life easy, I created a pet which will generate a menu entry (and facilitate adding it to lxde and xfce panels).
Running applications in this manner has several advantages: (1) disk space is cheap; (2) the default limitation of 6 SFSes doesn't have to be modified as it uses none; (3) as it does not make use of the "merge-file" system, it can avoid conflicts with libs used by other applications; and (4) if it doesn't work, uninstalling the pet doesn't break anything as the files installed by the pet are unique.
I've attached the pet to link cinelerra unpacked to /mnt/home.
After installing this pet, read and follow don570's instructions in the first post of this thread to see if any of the other pets in the archive are needed or wanted.

mikesLr

Edit: 11/19/2015: Continued here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=873496#873496
cinelerra-mntHome-w5-4.2a.pet
Description  Pet to link to Cinelerra.pet unpacked to /mnt/home with folder renamed "cinelerra" w/o the quotes
pet

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Mar 2014, 20:56    Post subject: What about Editing video ?
Subject description: Puppy Badass cinelarra 2.1.5 CV included
 

What about Editing video ? Are you successful ? Pls can you explain with a short How-to. Because... i didn't succeed doing more than reading the video. Confused
I am not the only one, see comments on YOUTUBE links.
in Badass, cinelerra shuts down as soon as you try to upload a file ( mpeg in my case).
Later tries = cinelerra works when you change yr video .mpeg to .mp4 with FFconvert.
Le fichier passe de 4MB à 13MB bien que la taille de l'image a été réduite de 852x480 à 600x480.
The movie size increases to 13MB although frame size had been reduced.
Reading works. Now i will try edting the video.

Mpeg to avi : Cinelerra inoperates. with .avi (no video track).
J'abandonne, I give up.
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Description  changed audio to mono and size increases ! (huge increase).
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Nov 2015, 20:54    Post subject: Cinelerra for "Every Pup" including 64Bit  

Hi All,

In response to a question regarding what video editors function under Slacko, I had occasion to revisit this thread, and my post above.

Sorry, Pelo. I can't answer your question. The furthest I've gone with Cinelerra is to start it and open some vids. Frankly, Cinelerra has so many "bells and whistles" that it's learning curve is steep. Learning how to effectively use it is on my "to do" list. But, frankly, Avidemux for cutting clips and Openshot or Kdenlive for assembling them pretty much fulfills my actual needs.

In the above post I mentioned running Cinelerra from /mnt/home. Wondering whether it might work under Tahrpup, I discovered that somehow during one of my cleaning fits the cinelerra folder at /mnt/home bit the dust. In re-creating it I realized that cinelerra appears to be "portable" and can be run from any Linux formatted space.

Edit December 27, 2015:

To run Cinelerra, download a package from http://cinelerra.org/2015/ to a temporary folder. I chose the offered Ubuntu version as I most often boot into TahrPup. [When I started it in TahrPup via the terminal no errors or missing files were reported]. Extract the package. Rename the Extracted folder "cinelerra32" without the quotes. Move that folder whereever you want, As I want to run it from several 32Bit pups, I placed it on /mnt/home. The pet attached to this post created a menu listing for it.

If, for example, you prefer to run cinelerra from "pup-space" --because, pehaps, you only run one Pup frugally installed to a non-Linux formatted partition-- you can place the extracted folder in /opt. After installing the attached pet, open /usr/share/applications/cinelerra.desktop in a text editor, and edit the Exec line to point to where ever the cinelerra binary may be.

If you're running a 64-bit Pup, you can also download an appropriate package directly from Cinelerra's website. The pet I provided doesn't care whether your cinelerra is 32Bit or 64Bit.

As I run both 32Bit and 64Bit Pups, with the cinelerra folders for both on /mnt/home the attached pet only differs from the previous one in that it now points to the /mnt/home/cinelerra32 folder rather than just a /mnt/home/cinelerra folder.

Before downloading the package directly from cinelerra, don570's build worked on every 32Bit Pup I've tried -- which is most of the 5 Series with the exception of some Xfce versions of the jwm or openbox versions that I did try. I expect the same of the package downloaded from cinelerra,org

mikesLr
cinelerra-mntHome-w5-4.2a.pet
Description  creates menu entry for cinelerra on /mnt/home in folder named cinelerra32
pet

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2016, 22:16    Post subject:  

i did following

but no cinere...5 to start

THIS:
...o run Cinelerra, download a package from http://cinelerra.org/2015/ to a temporary folder. I chose the offered Ubuntu version as I most often boot into TahrPup. [When I started it in TahrPup via the terminal no errors or missing files were reported]. Extract the package. Rename the Extracted folder "cinelerra32" without the quotes. ...

??QUOTES??etc only for experts.((((

i think for puppy one needs a pet sfs

can not somebody plese do it??with all input output format

linux without a real video editor is really not advice to somebody my friends they will laugh....




the don s stuff works cinerella comes but but what to cho0se excatly in ffconvert???that allways ok for cinerella.....



thank u for helping me
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2016, 02:52    Post subject: Do you succeed in editing video ?
Subject description: That is what we ask to Cinelerra, first step !
 

Esmourguit has cinelerra in his quickpet for Slaxen 6.0.2. My question is
'Does cinelerra works for you'
Because installing and reading movies is not his job. Puppy has many media players. Cinelerra would not be a new one. Cinelerra's Job is for editing videos, to be compared to openshot.
Do you succeed in editing video with cinelerra and what is the plus compared to openshot
I edit my video with you tube tools, that resquest only a browser and flasplayer up to date.
Misery is that Slaxen provides cinelerra but no Xvidcap or other video editing tools. But the reason is that the Puppy-makers job is Linux, not Video.
Unfortunately all the demos for Puppy Linux are done by private society (Excepted for Puppies de America del sur, Puppy Usarios are producers. But not with Cinelerra ,to much complicated.)
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2016, 14:51    Post subject:  

this?

but is not in fr languge and seems to work same bad like other workig cinerelaas

this video just gives music loaded and no video visible for example even tp mp4 with ff... trasformed to work better..

plese help me....




https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3UM2Bj5rUu3alpPOXZ4TDNUY28


original video from camera here ,,, https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3UM2Bj5rUu3alpPOXZ4TDNUY28

same problem
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Oct 2016, 21:59    Post subject: other applications than Cinelerra are for Puppy Linux
Subject description: Openshot is the standard one.
 

Help you, i will, but for other applications than Cinelerra because i never succeeded to change anything with it. Yes Cinellerra can be launched with Puppy.Linux. Then what to do whit it ?
Cinelerra is used in professionnal studios, with lot of people working ( For tV show, or advertising clips)

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