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cimarron

Joined: 30 May 2013
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Feb 2014, 15:43    Post subject:  

You must have missed my post, greengeek. Your video plays fine on my Thinkpad X24, about 12 years old, Pentium III(M) running at 733MHz (limited to keep it from overheating) with 256M RAM. I've got GuyDog on it. And Firefox 16 with Flash 11.1, and NoScript to allow just the scripts I want.

For playing video, GuyDog made a big difference for me over my previous LuPu 5.1.
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greengeek

Joined: 20 Jul 2010
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Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Fri 14 Feb 2014, 15:48    Post subject:  

You're right - sorry cimarron! I did miss it. I think I must have glossed over it in the expectation that somebody was going to pop up with a 233MHz something-or-other that could do the job. No chance of that I realise now.

OK, so far you are in the lead. I think I'm going to try to dig up an old PIII 700 and see if I can beat you Smile
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greengeek

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jun 2014, 15:50    Post subject:  

Users of less powerful machines may get some pointers from sindi's post here
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itisix

Joined: 09 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 17:57    Post subject:  

Hi,

I'm a total puppy noob and there is something eluding me.
I have a PIV 2.4 with 1GB or ram and I cannot play youtube decently. I have puppy slacko 5.7, firefox 17.0.11 and Flash 11.2.
Unfortunately, my graphics card is total crap onboard intel something.
Any ideas?

Thanks
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Semme

Joined: 07 Aug 2011
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 18:22    Post subject:  

Rt-clk a video, go to settings and disable hw acceleration. If that doesn't cut it, remove eleven and try this version.
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itisix

Joined: 09 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 18:48    Post subject:  

Thanks.

Better, but not perfect yet. Maybe it's the computer in general that is slow.
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itisix

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 19:09    Post subject:  

It's the CPU is maxing while playing youtube. Even as I write this, it gets up to over 60%. Firefox and Firefox plugin container are the culprits. I have installed no plugins (except flash).
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mikeb


Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 19:18    Post subject:  

does seem a bit high ...what resolution are you playing.

I find anything vp8 based has high overhead even in mplayer/vlc.

What about trying html5?

Any better/worse with full screen...3d drivers are needed for that to work well.

Graphics driver... are you using vesa or an actual intel one as the former will be considerably worse?

Should not have to be resorting to downloading vids with that spec...got an intel atom dual core 1.6/intel vid and its smooth.

mike
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itisix

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 20:06    Post subject:  

HTML5 made it worse.
Resolution is 1024*768, but lower doesn't make much difference.
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Semme

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 22:35    Post subject:  

How are you running Pup? Depending on setup, swap can make quite a difference.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29356

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60302

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itisix

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jun 2014, 03:49    Post subject:  

I have a full install on the hard drive and booting from it. No swap. But it never uses that much RAM anyway.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jun 2014, 06:59    Post subject:  

Hmm yes html5 seems a bit naff to me too...but some swear by it BUT it does suggest you might be using vesa or xvesa video.

That resolution you quoted...is that in flash or html5 as if it flash ..either way no chance of that being smooth..only way for those is with a real video player AND/OR graphics card hardware support.

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itisix

Joined: 09 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jun 2014, 07:11    Post subject:  

Tested with opera and chromium. Opera gets a little better than FF and CH.

I'm also getting a lot of CPU power going into X:0 -br -nolisten tcp

I got this from my video info:

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Ter 10 Jun 2014 on Slacko Puppy 5.7 Linux 3.4.82 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
oem: Brookdale-G Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Brookdale-G Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (169x126 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 8.0.4

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Core 0: @2400 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/video-info-glx'.
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itisix

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jun 2014, 07:15    Post subject:  

What is really bugging me is that I have another PIV 2.4 with 1GB of ram. That one has a crap 3D card (not onboard) and I can run youtube videos on it, using a lightweight version of Windows XP. I just decided I was going to finally make the move for a linux media center.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jun 2014, 07:32    Post subject:  

Hmm ok... is glxgears giving you a decent fps... ?

X cpu is showing xorg is having a heavy time.... with flash acceleration ONLY helps with full screen anyway.
Again 1024x768 video on flash I would not even attempt if thats what you are trying to play.

Unfortunately you may be right in that the intel video is your bottleneck here and ANY other video card would perform better.

And yes XP will perform better in this instance... better video drivers and flash player system ... a slight bias there generally. Especially if you use the activex flash player on IE..but then you have the problem of extreme virus vunerability.
(I did once experiment and had better flash performance using firefox on wine and best of all IE/flash on wine than any native arrangement)

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