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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 09:43    Post subject:  Any thoughts on this in relation to Puppy?
Subject description: Wiliest Ways to Keep the NSA at Bay
 

I came across this article and started thinking about using pupy from a CD only, due to some of the security issues mentioned in this article.

Thoughts?
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/80067.html?rss=1
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Barkin


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 11:48    Post subject: Re: Any thoughts on this in relation to Puppy?
Subject description: Wiliest Ways to Keep the NSA at Bay
 

rmcellig wrote:
I came across this article and started thinking about using pupy from a CD only, due to some of the security issues mentioned in this article.

Thoughts?
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/80067.html?rss=1

IMO Mr Zimmerman scaremongering to increase sales of his overpriced "black"phone ...
Quote:
"The entire reason for it to exist is to protect privacy," Zimmermann said of the US$629 [Blackphone] device, which includes Silent Phone, Silent Text, Tor and a VPN among its features.
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/80067.html
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musher0


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 12:52    Post subject:  

Hi, gang.

Interesting article. It deals only with personal protective measures, though. Whether
you're on Puppy, or Linux generally, or Windows, or Mac, doesn't matter.

I think the only way we will win back our privacy is to counter-attack: flood the
government snoopers themselves with e-mails each time we detect them -- and send
a copy of our detection to our elected representative and / or Parliament asking for
immediate and efficient action.

One e-mail per detection. Maybe bundle up < lsof -i > (or similar utility), with a
console mailer, in a little script running in the background. Millions and millions of us
would need to fight back, of course, for this to achieve anything.

The retaliation e-mail could contain something like: "Give us our privacy back, 'cause
we, the People, are really fed up with your snooping. Not only have you lost our vote,
but we, the People, are now equipped to co-ordinate and cause DoS's at will on each
and every government site in this country -- including yours. Since you are not properly
defending our privacy, we have no other choice but to defend it ourselves, and we will
not stop until you do."

The threat of an Internet rebellion, written in the present tense and with an efficient play
on words, to get them thinking: that's the only thing thick-headed politicians understand
nowadays.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 14:21    Post subject: Re: Any thoughts on this in relation to Puppy?
Subject description: Wiliest Ways to Keep the NSA at Bay
 

Barkin wrote:
IMO Mr Zimmerman scaremongering to increase sales of his overpriced "black"phone ...
True. It's laughable that he recommends Tor too. If you wanted privacy why would you go straight to products that trumpet loudly that they are the go-to products for sneaky people to use. I'd say they would be the very products that spies and military intelligence organisations would target. Sort of like that cellphone the israelis used to blow up that guys head. Yahya Ayyash
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 14:36    Post subject: Re: Any thoughts on this in relation to Puppy?
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greengeek wrote:
... It's laughable that he recommends Tor .... I'd say they would be the very products that spies and military intelligence organisations would target.

Anyone can become part of TOR , if they become an "exit node" they can read any unencrypted traffic ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_exit_node#Exit_node_eavesdropping
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Barkin


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 14:52    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
... government snoopers ...

I'm more concerned about Google knowing everything about everyone ...


http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2013/07/are-you-sure-you-want-to-know-what-google-knows-about-you.html

There's more ... http://donttrack.us/
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musher0


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 16:33    Post subject:  

Hi, barkin.

Yeah, them too. Thanks for the informative link.

Silly me, that's probably where (Google) the government snoopers go first. Why go
through the trouble of tapping an Internet line (or whatever), when you already have
the information at your fingetips!

BTW, you may want to add to duckduckgo the following non-tracking search
engines. ixquick and startpage are based in Holland, where it's illegal for anyone
to track a user's searches (if I understood their doc correctly).

https://ixquick.com/do/search and its anonymous gateway to Google,
https://startpage.com/do/search.

Maybe there are others.

For my information, is duckduckgo based in the US?

BFN.

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 17:53    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
https://ixquick.com/do/search and its anonymous gateway to Google,
https://startpage.com/do/search

startpage.com is my home-page, they offer a free proxy service where you can view their search results via proxy, that takes a bit longer than usual to view the webpage but the advantage is the website doesn't "know" it's you looking, (they don't "see you coming").
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