Running "Slacko-5.7-pae" from "live" CD-RW with pupsave on internal HDD [but Slacko thinks it's pupsave is on a Flash Drive].
This is normally trouble-free, except...
a. The version of Firefox in use is 17.0.11, and Youtube says this is outdated.
Tried and failed to update it; how best to do it?
b. Flashplayer11-11.2.202.359 [latest for above Firefox version] in use, and fails to play some Youtube videos.
How to solve this problem?
Slacko 5.7 - March 2014
Sylvander:
Some things to consider are if you need FF for a bit more security, theres a linux download of at least FF-27 at OldApps. FF27 or newer because of TLS 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 support (this may be why your browser is 'too old').Since its the complete tarball, just import bookmarks (from an html file). Use about config terms 'ssl' and 'tls' to exclude SSL3 of any type.
HTH
Some things to consider are if you need FF for a bit more security, theres a linux download of at least FF-27 at OldApps. FF27 or newer because of TLS 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 support (this may be why your browser is 'too old').Since its the complete tarball, just import bookmarks (from an html file). Use about config terms 'ssl' and 'tls' to exclude SSL3 of any type.
HTH
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firefox
Sylvander,
Either update PPM or go to http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... -slacko14/ and download firefox-27.0.1-i686.pet. 01micko mentioned this here https://www.01micko.com/slacko57/notes.html. Don't forget to remove firefox 17 unless you want 2 versions installed at the same time.
Adobe archive is here https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb ... sions.html I use Semme's method:
1. Download version
2. Click on file and xarchive will ask what to do.
a. Maximize xarchive window.
b. Put cursor on vertical bar just to the right of Sym in the field name line,hold down left mouse button and drag to the right to expand file names.
c. Click fp_11.2.202.......linux-i386.tar.gz.
d. Click Extract on top menu.
e. Choose where you want to save the archive.
f. Close xarchive when it finishes.
3. Go to where you just stored your archive and click it.
4. Repeat step 2 & 2a; then click libflashplayer.so and 2d,e&f.
5. Open 2 Rox windows (I hope I used the right term),one to where you just put libflashplayer.so and one to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. If there is a libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins delete it and copy it from your first window.
I hope this will help.
jeff
P.S. sorry I tried to make the word here for 01micko's page an active link but going back and adding the next sentence screwed it up somehow.
Either update PPM or go to http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... -slacko14/ and download firefox-27.0.1-i686.pet. 01micko mentioned this here https://www.01micko.com/slacko57/notes.html. Don't forget to remove firefox 17 unless you want 2 versions installed at the same time.
Adobe archive is here https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb ... sions.html I use Semme's method:
1. Download version
2. Click on file and xarchive will ask what to do.
a. Maximize xarchive window.
b. Put cursor on vertical bar just to the right of Sym in the field name line,hold down left mouse button and drag to the right to expand file names.
c. Click fp_11.2.202.......linux-i386.tar.gz.
d. Click Extract on top menu.
e. Choose where you want to save the archive.
f. Close xarchive when it finishes.
3. Go to where you just stored your archive and click it.
4. Repeat step 2 & 2a; then click libflashplayer.so and 2d,e&f.
5. Open 2 Rox windows (I hope I used the right term),one to where you just put libflashplayer.so and one to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. If there is a libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins delete it and copy it from your first window.
I hope this will help.
jeff
P.S. sorry I tried to make the word here for 01micko's page an active link but going back and adding the next sentence screwed it up somehow.
@jeff757
1. "update PPM"
Successfully done just now.
2. "download firefox-27.0.1-i686.pet"
I see that listed in my PPM.
I believe this is the version I previously installed using the PPM, and this had a BAD effect on [functioning of] the Puppy, so I restored my pupsave backup to restore [my previous setup, and hence] full functionality.
Aught I to try once again?
I see no way to uninstall my existing version of Firefox [17.0.11].
No version of Firefox is listed in PPM as installed. [Does that mean this Slacko-5.7.0-pae came with this natively installed?].
Is it the two Firefox installs clashing that's causing the problems?
1. "update PPM"
Successfully done just now.
2. "download firefox-27.0.1-i686.pet"
I see that listed in my PPM.
I believe this is the version I previously installed using the PPM, and this had a BAD effect on [functioning of] the Puppy, so I restored my pupsave backup to restore [my previous setup, and hence] full functionality.
Aught I to try once again?
I see no way to uninstall my existing version of Firefox [17.0.11].
No version of Firefox is listed in PPM as installed. [Does that mean this Slacko-5.7.0-pae came with this natively installed?].
Is it the two Firefox installs clashing that's causing the problems?
Without having first renamed your current Firefox settings folder, it's possible for components from the new build to corrupt and cause problems with your existing profile.
As for how to deal with a download from Mozilla, the install is exactly as Seamonkey suggests, a simple extraction..
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2. ... tall_linux
/usr/lib is just as good and most likely where the current build resides.
Seriously, it's not rocket science.
As for how to deal with a download from Mozilla, the install is exactly as Seamonkey suggests, a simple extraction..
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2. ... tall_linux
/usr/lib is just as good and most likely where the current build resides.
Seriously, it's not rocket science.
>>> Living with the immediacy of death helps you sort out your priorities. It helps you live a life less trivial <<<
built-in firefox removal
Sylvander,
Try Menu - Setup - Remove builtin programs click the down arrow and select firefox.
I've never tried this but one would hope it works.
jeff
Try Menu - Setup - Remove builtin programs click the down arrow and select firefox.
I've never tried this but one would hope it works.
jeff
Re: built-in firefox removal
a. Tried this.jeff757 wrote:Try Menu - Setup - Remove builtin programs click the down arrow and select firefox.
Removed Mozilla-Firefox, and clciked the "Save..." icon. [My session changes are not auto-saved]
Then looked in PPM.
"Firefox" version [15.0.1] that was previously listed was still listed.
I never see any mention of version 17.0.11, except in "Firefox->Help->About Firefox".
No Firefox would now load.
b. Used PPM to install "firefox-27.0.1-i686".
Once completed, I clicked the "Save..." icon.
No Firefox would run: not listed in the Menu system, or the Console.
c. Restored a backup of the pupsave file, so now back as before.
@semme
d. Looks like I'll need to attempt to understand your suggested method.
I'm getting too old for this.
You say "it's not rocket science"...
Seems to me like a Rocket Scientist talking to a child.
e. So I'm to rename [to what? Anything other than the current name?] my "current Firefox settings folder", right?
So which is that folder? /root/.mozilla/firefox/58ggeg3g.default?
I have Path=58ggeg3g.default in the /root/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini file.
Room in ~/ shouldn't be a problem.
Rename /root/.mozilla/firefox >> /root/.mozilla/firefox_anything-your-heart-desires.
Dwnld one of the builds near the end.. You'll choose good enough.
Unpack it somewhere.. /usr/lib or /tmp if unsure.
/tmp won't be permanent.
Fire the binary!
If you leave ~/.mozilla open, you'll notice a new FF directory gets created.
The whole shebang? No more than two minutes.
This method allows you to reinstall the same version you had.
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And should you need one of these, it goes in /usr/share/applications.
Rename /root/.mozilla/firefox >> /root/.mozilla/firefox_anything-your-heart-desires.
Dwnld one of the builds near the end.. You'll choose good enough.
Unpack it somewhere.. /usr/lib or /tmp if unsure.
/tmp won't be permanent.
Fire the binary!
If you leave ~/.mozilla open, you'll notice a new FF directory gets created.
The whole shebang? No more than two minutes.
This method allows you to reinstall the same version you had.
==
And should you need one of these, it goes in /usr/share/applications.
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>>> Living with the immediacy of death helps you sort out your priorities. It helps you live a life less trivial <<<
a. I'm getting old, and struggling to keep up.Semme wrote:What's the deal Sylvander.. Do you somehow need more detailed instructions?
e.g. This morning conditions were right, so I mowed the lawn, trimmed the edges, forked around the borders to loosen the surface soil, lifted out all weeds growing, got rid of stones found, spread the grass cuttings under the strawberries, and there's more needing done.
Might finish most of it tomorrow.
Garden now looks really good; like a small work of 3D living art.
I feel like I've been rolled on by a horse, but have just had a shower, so I'm feeling fresh, skin glowing.
Now to rest and recover.
b. I think I'll be able to follow your instructions.
Studied them yesterday, and intended to attempt to implement them today, but the other stuff demanded 1st priority.
Perhaps tomorrow, but the weather tomorrow is to be good, so perhaps more gardening.
If I found it so easy I could do without thinking, I'd bash ahead and it would be done by now.
I appreciate your efforts, and apologize for my poor responses.
What's your hourly rate? Theres quite a bit needs doing here too if you're available....Sylvander wrote: I mowed the lawn, trimmed the edges, forked around the borders to loosen the surface soil, lifted out all weeds growing, got rid of stones found, spread the grass cuttings under the strawberries, and there's more needing done.
Got a laugh outta me.@Semme
SUCCESS!
...I think.
How do I find which version this "newer" Firefox is?
Had to deviate slightly from your instructions...
Following them exactly produced the old Firefox instead of the new.
Deviations?:
1. Had to use ROX rather than Xfe to rename the /root/.mozilla/firefox folder to /root/.mozilla/firefox_old.
Also had to shut down all 3 Firefox windows.
Xfe was closing [crashing?] when I hit rename...
And producing an added/renamed COPY, with the original still in place.
Using ROX with no open Firefox windows fixed this problem, hence only the renamed version existed.
2. Also had to rename /usr/lib/firefox-17.0.11 to /usr/lib/firefox-17.0.11_old.
I guess this was producing/running the old Firefox instead of the new.
3. I unpacked /mnt/home/00/Firefox-38.0.5/firefox-38.0.5.tar.bz2 that I'd downloaded previously.
Did this instead of using one of the versions on the page you linked.
SUCCESS!
...I think.
How do I find which version this "newer" Firefox is?
Had to deviate slightly from your instructions...
Following them exactly produced the old Firefox instead of the new.
Deviations?:
1. Had to use ROX rather than Xfe to rename the /root/.mozilla/firefox folder to /root/.mozilla/firefox_old.
Also had to shut down all 3 Firefox windows.
Xfe was closing [crashing?] when I hit rename...
And producing an added/renamed COPY, with the original still in place.
Using ROX with no open Firefox windows fixed this problem, hence only the renamed version existed.
2. Also had to rename /usr/lib/firefox-17.0.11 to /usr/lib/firefox-17.0.11_old.
I guess this was producing/running the old Firefox instead of the new.
3. I unpacked /mnt/home/00/Firefox-38.0.5/firefox-38.0.5.tar.bz2 that I'd downloaded previously.
Did this instead of using one of the versions on the page you linked.
C'mon now, version info's in Help, then About.
The old FF came up because you launched it from (I suspect) the menu.
Anytime you edit program files, make certain the application's *closed.
Again, I suspect a menu launch..
The good thing is, if any part of your setup became *polluted,* and you weren't happy with the new build, you could always drop back to a smaller, less bloated, earlier version.
And Pup doesn't need any (firefox-17.0.11) numbered naming convention.. It's downright silly.
PS >> If you run NoScript, make sure'n backup your white list.
The old FF came up because you launched it from (I suspect) the menu.
Anytime you edit program files, make certain the application's *closed.
Again, I suspect a menu launch..
Since my method works well for testing, storing the extracted pkg somewhere in /mnt/home is fine. With this setup you simply drag the binary to your desktop and avoid any menu launchers. Doing so would make the old build use components in the new FF settings folder. This you wanna avoid.Also had to rename /usr/lib/firefox-17.0.11 to /usr/lib/firefox-17.0.11_old.
The good thing is, if any part of your setup became *polluted,* and you weren't happy with the new build, you could always drop back to a smaller, less bloated, earlier version.
And Pup doesn't need any (firefox-17.0.11) numbered naming convention.. It's downright silly.
PS >> If you run NoScript, make sure'n backup your white list.
>>> Living with the immediacy of death helps you sort out your priorities. It helps you live a life less trivial <<<
1. "C'mon now, version info's in Help, then About."
In the old Firefox it was, and I could find it no problem...
But in the new Firefox, I cannot find "Help"; even when I click "Open menu" help isn't listed..
There are no menu titles at top left.
2. "The old FF came up because you launched it from (I suspect) the menu."
I used the "Browse" icon on the desktop.
The same happens when I use the "Menu->Internet->Firefox" entry..
I'd expect these to launch the new Firefox.
3. "Anytime you edit program files, make certain the application's *closed."
I'll try to remember that.
4. "Doing so would make the old build use components in the new FF settings folder. This you wanna avoid."
What is the "SO" that doing "would make the old build use components in the new FF settings folder"?
5. "With this setup you simply drag the binary to your desktop and avoid any menu launchers."
What is the "THIS SETUP" to which you refer?
Sorry if I'm sounding pedantic, but I was educated in Physics, Engineering, Maths, and being SPECIFIC was trained into me for years.
Was also once a "Trainee Training Officer" where we trained Supervisors [and me] how difficult it is to give written instructions that others will have no difficulty following.
6. I'm guessing that if I "drag the binary" [ i.e. /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin?] to the desktop, and use that to launch the new Firefox, I won't get the warning that displays that it's launching the binary of the old Firefox, and asking if I want to save a copy of that binary file [so far I always cancel this].
When I use ROX and left-click on /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin the new Firefox launches, with no warning dialog.
7. The new Firefox won't play the 1st video I tried at www.youtube.co.uk
There's a warning that "the plugin is vulnerable and should be updated" [Adobe Flash].
I'm about to use "GetFlash" to install "flashplayer11-11.2.202.466
DONE.
Will post this and then click OK.
Still doesn't work; will save session changes and reboot.
Videos now play just fine.
8. I'm unable to get "Open menu->Preferences->General->Startup->When Firefox starts" to accept "Show my windows and tabs from last time".
It's stuck on "Show my home page".
At least it has accepted www.ixqick.com as my home page.
In the old Firefox it was, and I could find it no problem...
But in the new Firefox, I cannot find "Help"; even when I click "Open menu" help isn't listed..
There are no menu titles at top left.
2. "The old FF came up because you launched it from (I suspect) the menu."
I used the "Browse" icon on the desktop.
The same happens when I use the "Menu->Internet->Firefox" entry..
I'd expect these to launch the new Firefox.
3. "Anytime you edit program files, make certain the application's *closed."
I'll try to remember that.
4. "Doing so would make the old build use components in the new FF settings folder. This you wanna avoid."
What is the "SO" that doing "would make the old build use components in the new FF settings folder"?
5. "With this setup you simply drag the binary to your desktop and avoid any menu launchers."
What is the "THIS SETUP" to which you refer?
Sorry if I'm sounding pedantic, but I was educated in Physics, Engineering, Maths, and being SPECIFIC was trained into me for years.
Was also once a "Trainee Training Officer" where we trained Supervisors [and me] how difficult it is to give written instructions that others will have no difficulty following.
6. I'm guessing that if I "drag the binary" [ i.e. /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin?] to the desktop, and use that to launch the new Firefox, I won't get the warning that displays that it's launching the binary of the old Firefox, and asking if I want to save a copy of that binary file [so far I always cancel this].
When I use ROX and left-click on /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin the new Firefox launches, with no warning dialog.
7. The new Firefox won't play the 1st video I tried at www.youtube.co.uk
There's a warning that "the plugin is vulnerable and should be updated" [Adobe Flash].
I'm about to use "GetFlash" to install "flashplayer11-11.2.202.466
DONE.
Will post this and then click OK.
Still doesn't work; will save session changes and reboot.
Videos now play just fine.
8. I'm unable to get "Open menu->Preferences->General->Startup->When Firefox starts" to accept "Show my windows and tabs from last time".
It's stuck on "Show my home page".
At least it has accepted www.ixqick.com as my home page.
Version = horizontal bars on the right >> little question mark lower right >> about.
Menu stuff won't launch the new one unless the exec line in firefox.desktop is adjusted.
I'm not on Slacko ATM to know the difference.
As for user settings components, the new build contains 43 items.
My older build >> 30.
You tell me whether mix'n match is a good idea..
For a clean install, you wanna avoid this type of pollution.
Export whatever you need and re-import into the new build. This is the safer bet >> ALWAYS!
As for launching a new build, say from /tmp.. It's always <cmdline now.. DOT_SLASH_BOLDED_WORD> "./binary" from within the same directory, and why I said to drag this binary onto your desktop where <sans any cmdline magic> clicking will launch it directly from /tmp. Follow?
The YT site I'll check and reply to shortly.. Yes, YT Great Britian plays.
Personally, my machine is nowhere near powerful enough to deal with Mozilla's latest bloat!
Horrible what they've done with *thee* alternative browser.. An absolute CPU <bite my tongue> Who-Wa!
On the other hand, it's fine if you get on with it.
==
As you may recall, I made this suggestion.
==
You, running Slacko, might be better off with....... Slimboat?
Menu stuff won't launch the new one unless the exec line in firefox.desktop is adjusted.
I'm not on Slacko ATM to know the difference.
As for user settings components, the new build contains 43 items.
My older build >> 30.
You tell me whether mix'n match is a good idea..For a clean install, you wanna avoid this type of pollution.
Export whatever you need and re-import into the new build. This is the safer bet >> ALWAYS!
As for launching a new build, say from /tmp.. It's always <cmdline now.. DOT_SLASH_BOLDED_WORD> "./binary" from within the same directory, and why I said to drag this binary onto your desktop where <sans any cmdline magic> clicking will launch it directly from /tmp. Follow?
The YT site I'll check and reply to shortly.. Yes, YT Great Britian plays.
Personally, my machine is nowhere near powerful enough to deal with Mozilla's latest bloat!
Horrible what they've done with *thee* alternative browser.. An absolute CPU <bite my tongue> Who-Wa!
On the other hand, it's fine if you get on with it.
==
As you may recall, I made this suggestion.
==
You, running Slacko, might be better off with....... Slimboat?
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In fact, here's FF ESR 24.x with a modified user.js >> http://whatsmyuseragent.com/
And the "outdated plugin" warning? I simply don't care.
Am I suppose to sacrifice my ability to browse in order to keep up with bloated code?
I think not. Gotta draw the line somewhere..
And the "outdated plugin" warning? I simply don't care.
Am I suppose to sacrifice my ability to browse in order to keep up with bloated code?
I think not. Gotta draw the line somewhere..
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>>> Living with the immediacy of death helps you sort out your priorities. It helps you live a life less trivial <<<
Super easy to disable the warning via 'about:config' -Semme wrote:And the "outdated plugin" warning? I simply don't care.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1044112
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Extensions.blocklist.enabled
Bob