Legacy OS 2.1 LTS released
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JohnBiles,...
the new LegacyOS 2.1 is pretty terrific! Thanks for all your hard work on this one. I have it on my second computer (Dell optiplex GX150,..pIII--1Ghz--512mb ram)..and Legacy has given it new life. It's much appreciated.
Now if I could just get LegacyOS to work with my computer that runs a 1366x768 monitor. I tried...but it won't give me that resolution
Oh well,...works on my other computer monitors.
the new LegacyOS 2.1 is pretty terrific! Thanks for all your hard work on this one. I have it on my second computer (Dell optiplex GX150,..pIII--1Ghz--512mb ram)..and Legacy has given it new life. It's much appreciated.
Now if I could just get LegacyOS to work with my computer that runs a 1366x768 monitor. I tried...but it won't give me that resolution
Oh well,...works on my other computer monitors.
Yes, indeed. There are some limitations in getting these legacy offerings running on legacy machines. Some old boards do not have an AGP slot, for example. Finding a posh PCI video card (and at a sensible price) is very difficult, even on eBay. Even if the board has on-board video, this is often limited to ~8Mb, maybe less. And that leads on to the memory issue if a memory resident or memory hungry OS like the Puppies is to be used. Again, without unreasonable cost, it is difficult to find even 256Mb SDRAM strips in the 'spares' box. Mine is full of 32/64/128 strips. Many boards are restricted to only two RAM slots making it a struggle to achieve 512MB in total. Another issue is the size of the .iso distribution disc. Many old machines, notably laptops, are limited to accepting CDs. So far john biles has succeeded in meeting the 700Mb boundary - most have not, many don't care! There must come a natural limit consistent with operating speed. Rationality also precludes throwing the $/£ weapon on a system that may soon follow its compatriots to the grave.1366x768 monitor
But, take heart mon braves, we are not there yet, thanks to the sterling efforts of john, BK, micko and co.
John I've been able to download "Gamer", but have attempted 6 times with Legacy OS 2.1 LTS from a range of sourceforge mirrors. I repeatedly get a maximum iso size of 697mb where 730mb is otherwise reported - could you or someone who has successfully downloaded a working iso please provide the MD5? The target machine is a Pentium III laptop with 500MHz CPU and 512Mb RAM, and eXpand "Barbie" 2.14 works fine on it, would love to kit it out properly with your latest,
With Thanks.
With Thanks.
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My copy of Legacy OS 2.1 LTS, installed on an old P3 is 697 mb and the md5 sum is....Puppyt wrote:John I've been able to download "Gamer", but have attempted 6 times with Legacy OS 2.1 LTS from a range of sourceforge mirrors. I repeatedly get a maximum iso size of 697mb where 730mb is otherwise reported - could you or someone who has successfully downloaded a working iso please provide the MD5? The target machine is a Pentium III laptop with 500MHz CPU and 512Mb RAM, and eXpand "Barbie" 2.14 works fine on it, would love to kit it out properly with your latest,
With Thanks.
be39a1415afb64fbbc0e47f82933ce99 MD5
0ac1bf6a22f4f44c646e8f7f13889a6094d7cee5 SHA1
56f662d2c30735f1ff22aa11ebc62096c41704d44bdcd2455fce7d7de SHA256
HTH.
Thanks James C - this time around I've installed the FF add-on "Downthemall" and included your MD5 in its automatic checksum... fingers crossed I get a valid 697Mb ISO Download is pretty slow at present, 20% in 5 minutes...
EDIT corrupted download. Trying again ....
No - 3 failed downloads and I'm giving up - I don't have the bandwidth to waste, unfortunately.
EDIT corrupted download. Trying again ....
No - 3 failed downloads and I'm giving up - I don't have the bandwidth to waste, unfortunately.
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- Colonel Panic
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Another good option if you want a browser which works well in Legacy OS2 and OS2.1 is Links 2.
I'm using and posting from it (in the graphics mode) at the moment. It should still be available as a pet (I've had this one for ages).
I'm using and posting from it (in the graphics mode) at the moment. It should still be available as a pet (I've had this one for ages).
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For whatever it's worth, my copy of Legacy OS 2.1 LTS boots and installed fine but my md5 doesn't match the one from Sourceforge.The one from Sourceforge isJames C wrote:My copy of Legacy OS 2.1 LTS, installed on an old P3 is 697 mb and the md5 sum is....Puppyt wrote:John I've been able to download "Gamer", but have attempted 6 times with Legacy OS 2.1 LTS from a range of sourceforge mirrors. I repeatedly get a maximum iso size of 697mb where 730mb is otherwise reported - could you or someone who has successfully downloaded a working iso please provide the MD5? The target machine is a Pentium III laptop with 500MHz CPU and 512Mb RAM, and eXpand "Barbie" 2.14 works fine on it, would love to kit it out properly with your latest,
With Thanks.
be39a1415afb64fbbc0e47f82933ce99 MD5
0ac1bf6a22f4f44c646e8f7f13889a6094d7cee5 SHA1
56f662d2c30735f1ff22aa11ebc62096c41704d44bdcd2455fce7d7de SHA256
HTH.
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Thanks again James C,
yes, I have a match with your Sourceforge MD5 download, which is a relief. However, the other proof of the pudding is just to click on the *.iso file - a valid iso mounts immediately, whereas I get a red warning dialogue "Failed mounting or unmounting".
So I've moved ahead with Legacy Gamer 2.1 as the Opentec RapidFire3 laptop I'm resurrecting (ex military) will be relegated to a babysitting role for my pre-teen kids. Bit of a gordian knot of hardware/driver mismatches, but I've found that Upup Precise 3.7.something works OOTB with alsa etc configured. PMCIA with usb2.0 ports seems to be eluding me for all Puplets tested, not a BIOS issue so looks like another dodgey hardware purchase from China
Oh - had Gamer working but without sound properly configured, did a frugal/coexist install to a ext2-partitioned IDE-adapter SD-card with 500mb swap, but got flumoxed somewhere with grub2 and then grub4dos gldr issues from Legacy. (Or was it me, more likely) Something dropped out in the install, but I'm working on it -very sporadically - Cheers
yes, I have a match with your Sourceforge MD5 download, which is a relief. However, the other proof of the pudding is just to click on the *.iso file - a valid iso mounts immediately, whereas I get a red warning dialogue "Failed mounting or unmounting".
So I've moved ahead with Legacy Gamer 2.1 as the Opentec RapidFire3 laptop I'm resurrecting (ex military) will be relegated to a babysitting role for my pre-teen kids. Bit of a gordian knot of hardware/driver mismatches, but I've found that Upup Precise 3.7.something works OOTB with alsa etc configured. PMCIA with usb2.0 ports seems to be eluding me for all Puplets tested, not a BIOS issue so looks like another dodgey hardware purchase from China
Oh - had Gamer working but without sound properly configured, did a frugal/coexist install to a ext2-partitioned IDE-adapter SD-card with 500mb swap, but got flumoxed somewhere with grub2 and then grub4dos gldr issues from Legacy. (Or was it me, more likely) Something dropped out in the install, but I'm working on it -very sporadically - Cheers
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- Colonel Panic
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Hi,nubc wrote:Very interesting project. First site I visited told me that Opera was out of date. Any way to get Firefox on this puppy?
The only way I know to do that in Legacy 2 is to install Wine and then the Windows version of Firefox.
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Hello nubc,
Opera 12.02 is the last version that is compatible with Legacy's System structure and it is this structure that makes Legacy OS 2.1 work on old Pentium's.
As Colonel Panic has highlighted one way around the problem is to run the Windows version of Firefox under Wine.
Grab it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/legacyo ... 0Packages/
just remember that Firefox + Wine is going to use a large amount of Ram so on low resource PC's you can expect a slowing down the more you surf the net.
If your hardware can run newer versions of Puppy or other Distro's I recommend you try them.
Opera 12.02 is the last version that is compatible with Legacy's System structure and it is this structure that makes Legacy OS 2.1 work on old Pentium's.
As Colonel Panic has highlighted one way around the problem is to run the Windows version of Firefox under Wine.
Grab it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/legacyo ... 0Packages/
just remember that Firefox + Wine is going to use a large amount of Ram so on low resource PC's you can expect a slowing down the more you surf the net.
If your hardware can run newer versions of Puppy or other Distro's I recommend you try them.
Legacy OS 2017 has been released.
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Where did you get that PET? Is it the one you mentioned here?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 972#863972
Since you mention using Lucid 5.2.8 in that post, I assume you got the PET from the Lucid 5.2.8 repository. If so, it won't work with Legacy OS.
Wireless drivers are kernel-specific: they have to be compiled for the specific version of the Linux kernel they are going to be used with. So a wireless driver intended for one Puppy will only work on a different Puppy if they use the same version of the kernel, which hardly ever happens. (LegacyOS apparently uses the 2.6.18 kernel.) Since LegacyOS is targeted at very old hardware, it's probably going to be hard to find suitable drivers for USB WiFi adapters.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 972#863972
Since you mention using Lucid 5.2.8 in that post, I assume you got the PET from the Lucid 5.2.8 repository. If so, it won't work with Legacy OS.
Wireless drivers are kernel-specific: they have to be compiled for the specific version of the Linux kernel they are going to be used with. So a wireless driver intended for one Puppy will only work on a different Puppy if they use the same version of the kernel, which hardly ever happens. (LegacyOS apparently uses the 2.6.18 kernel.) Since LegacyOS is targeted at very old hardware, it's probably going to be hard to find suitable drivers for USB WiFi adapters.
Hello.
I succeeded in installing either LTS either Gamer to a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300 with 320MiB RAM. It's a nice distro.
At first I was not able make it load the LiveCD. Then I discovered it would load if I deleted the swap partition on the hard disk. Strange behaviour. I used a 5.5wary in a miniCD RW for those tweaks.
I stopped having that problem when I replaced the old CD reader with a faster combo unit. No need to delete swap.
I want to install Legacy OS 2.1 permanently to HD, but I wonder if there is a way to update LTS over Gamer or the other way round so as to keep all the apps and games in a single system.
My first try was Gamer, then LTS. I chose the update option, all I got was LTS with no trace of Gamer.
Then I tried Gamer over LTS. I chose "coexist". The installer program would not call grub installer. I called it up manually, but when I rebooted, LTS would start without the games in gamer, though the 3GiB partition had grown from 1.8GiB used to 2.2GiB. There was no option in the grub menu to start Gamer, either.
A second "coexist" intent filled the partition up to 2.6GiB. No games yet.
Anybody tried that? Any hints?
I succeeded in installing either LTS either Gamer to a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300 with 320MiB RAM. It's a nice distro.
At first I was not able make it load the LiveCD. Then I discovered it would load if I deleted the swap partition on the hard disk. Strange behaviour. I used a 5.5wary in a miniCD RW for those tweaks.
I stopped having that problem when I replaced the old CD reader with a faster combo unit. No need to delete swap.
I want to install Legacy OS 2.1 permanently to HD, but I wonder if there is a way to update LTS over Gamer or the other way round so as to keep all the apps and games in a single system.
My first try was Gamer, then LTS. I chose the update option, all I got was LTS with no trace of Gamer.
Then I tried Gamer over LTS. I chose "coexist". The installer program would not call grub installer. I called it up manually, but when I rebooted, LTS would start without the games in gamer, though the 3GiB partition had grown from 1.8GiB used to 2.2GiB. There was no option in the grub menu to start Gamer, either.
A second "coexist" intent filled the partition up to 2.6GiB. No games yet.
Anybody tried that? Any hints?