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[jangelelcangry]

how/where can i get the amd legacy proprietary driver?

I can't test this myself on AMD hardware but here is how to test if simple apt-get install procedure works:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 519#791519
If it does not work we can try to find working method.

I used the sudo + source text edit and it went all the way with no errors but...
1) system info says that my gpu only has 256 MB prefetchable memory being an AX4850 1GD3= 1GB DDR3 which is weird.

2)sauerbraten game doesn't run after being installed from synaptic. libsdl, sdl-mixer and sdl-image are also installed.

[saintless]

I used the sudo + source text edit and it went all the way with no errors but...
1) system info says that my gpu only has 256 MB prefetchable memory being an AX4850 1GD3= 1GB DDR3 which is weird.

Can you test when you have time if the problem is the same booting with separate kernel module 026-kernel-3.14-Pae.tar.gz or 024-kernel-3.12.0.bpo.1.zip from this post (there is instruction how to boot):
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 459#774459
Maybe the default 3.2.0-4-486 is old for this GPU.

2)sauerbraten game doesn't run after being installed from synaptic. libsdl, sdl-mixer and sdl-image are also installed.

Because you also need to install

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apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri
apt-get install lsb-core

Then reboot or just exit X and startx again.
You can also test typing glxgears in terminal after installing:

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apt-get install mesa-utils

Then sauerbraten works:



BTW just for information this command will remove all downloaded deb packages from /var/cache/apt/archives You don't need them anymore. Saves much space.

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apt-get clean

[jangelelcangry]

I used the sudo + source text edit and it went all the way with no errors but...
1) system info says that my gpu only has 256 MB prefetchable memory being an AX4850 1GD3= 1GB DDR3 which is weird.

Can you test when you have time if the problem is the same booting with separate kernel module 026-kernel-3.14-Pae.tar.gz or 024-kernel-3.12.0.bpo.1.zip from this post (there is instruction how to boot):
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 459#774459
Maybe the default 3.2.0-4-486 is old for this GPU.

2)sauerbraten game doesn't run after being installed from synaptic. libsdl, sdl-mixer and sdl-image are also installed.

Because you also need to install

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apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri
apt-get install lsb-core

Then reboot or just exit X and startx again.
You can also test typing glxgears in terminal after installing:

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apt-get install mesa-utils

Then sauerbraten works:



BTW just for information this command will remove all downloaded deb packages from /var/cache/apt/archives You don't need them anymore. Saves much space.

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apt-get clean

sauerbraten and glxgears still doesn't work.
I'll uninstall the fglrx driver to test if it runs on stock gpu driver after that I l'l test the kernel stuff. BTW. I'm runnng a full install debain dog xcfe..
Thanks for the help saintless

[saintless]

sauerbraten and glxgears still doesn't work.
I'll uninstall the fglrx driver to test if it runs on stock gpu driver after that I l'l test the.

Thank you for testing, I guess fglrx driver is the problem. I have no troubles to run it in OpenBox frugall install. And this time tested without apt-get install lsb-core and still works. Seems lsb-core package is not needed. Actually I can't test the game proper on old hardware like mine but it starts without problems.



Glad to read about successful Full install report
If you find some way to make fglrx driver from apt-get or different download work on your hardware, please, post the solution.

Toni

[MrAccident]

saintless - I installed DD on a separate ext4 partition I made on a hard-drive. There are no more OSs. I prefer to boot the OS to RAM, like puppy. I prefer the OS will update the save-file every once in a while, if possible; if not - at shut-down.

[saintless]

Hi, MrAccident.

I guess you mean Frugal install on ext4 partition.
Then you can use Copy to RAM and save changes on exit inside /live/changes.dat save file with this boot code (change root (hd0,0) with the proper one from menu.lst for new created ext4 partition):

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title PorteusDog (sda1) copy2ram save changes on Exit 
root (hd0,0) 
kernel /live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/ copy2ram changes=EXIT:/live/changes.dat 
initrd /live/initrd1.xz

There will be prompt on shutdown to save changes or not.
You can save changes any time you like by typing save2flash in terminal.

If you prefer to save changes in save folder this boot code will do the same in folder /live/changes (/live/changes save folder will be auto-created on boot):

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title PorteusDog (sda1) copy2ram save changes on Exit 
root (hd0,0) 
kernel /live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/ copy2ram changes=EXIT:/live/
initrd /live/initrd1.xz

You can change the save file/folder location by changing the path in changes=EXIT:/path-to-save-file

Toni

[MrAccident]

I'm not sure what to do. One of the entries is -

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title Debian-PorteusDog Wheezy Copy to RAM
 uuid cd8cde72-3315-42f9-b8ee-d8a6894b29c9
 kernel /live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/ copy2ram
 initrd /live/initrd1.xz

Should I change it or add -

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 title PorteusDog (sda1) copy2ram save changes on Exit
 uuid cd8cde72-3315-42f9-b8ee-d8a6894b29c9
kernel /live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/ copy2ram changes=EXIT:/live/changes.dat
initrd /live/initrd1.xz

I replaced only the second row with the code you gave.

[saintless]

Should I change it or add -

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 title PorteusDog (sda1) copy2ram save changes on Exit
 uuid cd8cde72-3315-42f9-b8ee-d8a6894b29c9
kernel /live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/ copy2ram changes=EXIT:/live/changes.dat
initrd /live/initrd1.xz

This one is fine. I would add it as first choice to boot as default and keep the other one to be able to boot without save file without editing the code.
I guess you used debiandog-installer and you have much more menu entries for live-boot-3x, live-boot-2x and porteus-boot. I suggest to keep them also. Sometimes could be useful to boot with live-boot2x and live-boot3x (or initrd1.img and initrd.img).

[MrAccident]

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[MrAccident]

OK, most works.
Here's Skype's version I found that works - download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu_2.2.0.35-1_i386.deb
The languages didn't work. I made all the changes and restarted. Generally - changes persist after boot; but when I click Alt+Shift - nothing happens.
Also in FireFox - I can't save to a folder with a name in Hebrew. Where I need to choose the folder in FireFox's preferences - I see it's name in Hebrew; but after I choose that folder - the folder's name in the address is displayed in strange characters. I updated FireFox, and the same happens.
In the file manager I can see the folder and interact with the files inside.
In Puppy there was no problem like that.

(can I delete a message I made?)

[saintless]

Here's Skype's version I found that works - download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu_2.2.0.35-1_i386.deb

Much newer Skype versions. Both work:
http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-u ... 1_i386.deb
http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-u ... 1_i386.deb

The languages didn't work. I made all the changes and restarted. Generally - changes persist after boot; but when I click Alt+Shift - nothing happens.

I will test this in OpenBox version later today. Check out if /etc/default/keyboard has this content (if I do not mistake the languages you need):

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# KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE

# Consult the keyboard(5) manual page.

XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="us,il,ru"
XKBVARIANT=","
XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_toggle,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,grp_led:scroll"

BACKSPACE="guess"

This works for me in Jwm version. I will test it in OpenBox.
Also some improvements for setting keyboard layouts from Sfs and Puppy-Russian-A. I will add them later as deb packages when I have time to test them proper:
http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx ... ity.tar.gz
Extract the archive.
lxkb_config - GUI to add and remove keyboard layouts. Single click on the file will start the program.
trayXkbSwitch - click on the file will add tray switch (bottom right) to change the layouts. If you move the file in /root/Startup it will start automatically after boot.

Also in FireFox - I can't save to a folder with a name in Hebrew. Where I need to choose the folder in FireFox's preferences - I see it's name in Hebrew; but after I choose that folder - the folder's name in the address is displayed in strange characters. I updated FireFox, and the same happens.
In the file manager I can see the folder and interact with the files inside.

I will look at this also. If you like to change the locales you will need to install locales package. Also all locale files for included programs in DebianDog are separated in 00-locales module. More information here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 572#771572
You can copy only the folders for languages you need from /usr/share/locale to save space instead loading 00-locale-files-openbox_xfce.squashfs (note all .squashfs modules you have in /live and /live subfolders will be loaded in Ram so be careful. It is better to keep separate squashfs (sfs) modules outside /live and activate them after boot if you use copy2ram.

In Puppy there was no problem like that.

Sorry, this is not Puppy. Welcome to Debian!

[saintless]

Hi, Fred.
Can you, please, check if you can add keyboard layout in OpenBox version when you have time? It works in Jwm version for me but not in OpenBox.
One of the problems is keyboards-rg is missing but I think there is more. After installing:

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apt-get install keyboards-rg

still can't change the layouts. /etc/default/keyboard looks OK but changing layouts does not work. Tested with Alt+Shift and Ctrl+Shift as choice.

MrAccident,
lxkb_config works in OpenBox version for the session but after restart does not save the changes. I will try to fix this and make deb package as temporary solution for OpenBox version soon.

Toni

[mcewanw]

new versions of Precord and also pAVrecord uploaded. Now version 9.0.3

Changes: hijack module capability expanded. Now using .hijack as addon module extension. I'll be modifying/uploading DoMyFIle, DoMyCommand/Premote similarly in the next couple of days (EDIT: now done).

Download the new versions from:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49907

and

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81332

William

[fredx181]

Hi Toni,

Can you, please, check if you can add keyboard layout in OpenBox version when you have time? It works in Jwm version for me but not in OpenBox.

Yes, I see, it needs fixed in next version, works for me commenting out this line in ~/.xsession:

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setxkbmap us -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp &

And set keyboard-layout then.
I also installed keyboards-rg.

Also in FireFox - I can't save to a folder with a name in Hebrew. Where I need to choose the folder in FireFox's preferences - I see it's name in Hebrew; but after I choose that folder - the folder's name in the address is displayed in strange characters. I updated FireFox, and the same happens.
In the file manager I can see the folder and interact with the files inside.

I think the best thing to do is to remove firefox-portable (it's english only) and install Iceweasel

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apt-get purge firefox-portable
apt-get install iceweasel
# And Hebrew language-pack for iceweasel
apt-get install iceweasel-l10n-he

Fred

[fredx181]

Hi Toni,

You can save changes any time you like by typing snap in terminal and confirming to save the changes with y and pressing Enter.

I didn't know "snap" works for that but it's meant for saving at shutdown.
I could be confusing because of the "shutting down" message.
Better type in terminal 'save2flash' (without quotes) and it will do the same.

Fred

[mcewanw]

New versions of DoMyCommand and DoMyFile posted:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 220#781220

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 246#790246

Changes: Now use .hijack as extension for addon expansion modules.

Bumped to versions 9.0.3 to keep in track with Precord and pAVrecord, which were also uploaded.

William

[saintless]

Hi, Fred.

I didn't know "snap" works for that but it's meant for saving at shutdown.
I could be confusing because of the "shutting down" message.
Better type in terminal 'save2flash' (without quotes) and it will do the same

Yes, and it is save2flash in the instruction for porteus-boot here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 456#774456
I will change snap with save2flash in my previous post.

Commenting out the line in /.xsession works for me also.
Added as keyboard layout fix for OpenBox version here:
New and updated packages and fixes information and download links.
Same link is in the first post.
Also added links to William's post about newer program versions.

Toni

[MrAccident]

Toni - here's what /etc/default/keyboard says:

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# KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE

# Consult the keyboard(5) manual page.

XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="us,il"
XKBVARIANT=","
XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:switch,grp_led:scroll"

BACKSPACE="guess"

There were a lot of options in the comments; so what to do eventually?

There are two options for IceWeasel-En: "za" and "gb"; are there differences? And do I have to uninstall FireFox first or can I install IceWeasel first?

[saintless]

MrAccident, Fred gave the fix in his post on the previous page. The problem is one line added in /root/.xsession in OpenBox version.
Also added in this post:
New and updated packages and fixes information and download links.
Or just change inside /root/.xsession

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setxkbmap us -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp &

to

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#setxkbmap us -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp &

Then install very small missing package:

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apt-get update
apt-get install keyboards-rg

And then run Keyboard Layout again to add hebrew and choose Alt+Shift to change the layout and Ctrl+Alt+BkSpace to exit X. After reboot it will work.
But for third layout like RU I think you will need to add it manually. Just changing this line from:

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XKBLAYOUT="us,il"

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XKBLAYOUT="us,il,ru"

should be enough to have us, il and ru keyboard layout changing from Alt+Shift.
Or /etc/default/keyboard should look like this at the end:

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# KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE

# Consult the keyboard(5) manual page.

XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="us,il,ru"
XKBVARIANT=","
XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_toggle,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,grp_led:scroll"

BACKSPACE="guess"

[saintless]

There are two options for IceWeasel-En: "za" and "gb"; are there differences?

I can't answer to this one. Experiment with both or use google for more information. It is Debian so anything related to Debian or Ubuntu will be the same for DebianDog. This is what Fred posted on previous page for you:

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apt-get purge firefox-portable
apt-get install iceweasel
# And Hebrew language-pack for iceweasel
apt-get install iceweasel-l10n-he

And do I have to uninstall FireFox first or can I install IceWeasel first?

Better uninstall it first and after you setup the system like you want and feel more comfortable with DebianDog use RemasterDog to remaster the main 01-filesystem.squashfs with your settings.