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musher0


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PostPosted: Tue 06 May 2014, 17:56    Post_subject:  lightspark-0.72
Sub_title: flashplayer replacement
 

Hello, all.

Flashplayer having announced that it won't be providing new versions for linux, only
backports, I started looking at alternatives.
http://www.ehow.com/info_8051375_alternatives-flashplayer.html

I have had good results with lightspark-0.72. I am attaching a pet made from an
ubuntu 14.04 LTS package, plus the plugin from Fedora Rawhide.

Available from http://pkgs.org/download/lightspark and
http://pkgs.org/download/lightspark-mozilla-plugin, respectively.

I first tested this pet on Triton, a Puppy_Precise-5.7.1 derivative. The substitution of
flashplayer was unnoticeable. *
* Edit, a few hours later: a second test on UpupRaring-3.9.9.2 didn't give me access
to the youtube videos.

If you could test in your own Puppy and post the results back here? Then we'd know
for sure if the transition to lightspark works, on which browser and on which Puppy.

Thanks in advance and best regards.

musher0
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Whitesnow


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PostPosted: Tue 06 May 2014, 22:56    Post_subject: Lightspark-0.72 feedback  

It works for me on Puppy Linux Precise 5.7.1 with Iron 34.0.1850.0, Opera 12.16, but not with Firefox 29.0.
Plugin is recognized as 11,2,202,332 flash player.
Binaries (lightspark and tightspark) claim both liblightspark.so.0.7 and only lightspark needs libglibmm-2.4.so.1, too. Those libraries are unavailable in you pet.

I hope this helps. Smile
Thank you very much for packaging and sharing.

Bye.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2014, 10:01    Post_subject:  

Musher,

This is very insightful and proactive.

Thank you for your hard work on this. I look forward to testing this shortly.

Report:

Running Fluxpup Non-PAE:

Seamonkey 2.19 - Works ok
Opera 12.16 - Works ok
Iron 23.01.13 - Keeps looking for Flash. Unsuccessful.


Also tested the "portable browsers" created by Shinobar. Not sure if flash is built into them but here's my results:

Firefox 29 - Works ok
Seamonkey 2.26 - Works ok
Chrome 34.0.1847.132 (Flash should be built-in here but I was curious about any conflicts). - Works ok.

NOTE: I don't have speakers on this computer but the videos streamed ok.

Specs:
-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.20GHz
Memory : 1292MB (210MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : FluxPup - 1.5.1
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 07 May 2014 10:29:22 AM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : EMU10K1X - Dell Sound Blaster Live!
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Dynex 5-Button Wired Optical Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker

Best,

Slavvo67
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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2014, 15:18    Post_subject:  

For real? The basic functionality of the bloated monstrosity that is Flash, provided by this itty-bitty 143kb .pet? Shocked Fantastic! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2014, 16:09    Post_subject:  

Moat wrote:
For real? The basic functionality of the bloated monstrosity that is Flash, provided by this itty-bitty 143kb .pet? Shocked Fantastic! Smile


Now-now, Moat, don't get overjoyed! Smile

According to technosaurus, lightspark needs the libLLVM library (20 Mb) for Just-in-
Time compilation while it's reading / translating youtube's mp4 / flv's... Some Puppies
already have this libLLVM, so it's no big deal for them. But some other Puppies don't
have this fatso.

Cold shower, eh, Moat? Smile

Also, thanks to all those who volunteered for testing already. However, I discovered
that before you start testing lightspark, make sure you have removed the flashplayer
library from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. I tried renaming it, but that gave a false positive on
lightspark, since the browser recognized the renamed flashplayer that was there
anyway -- or something like that -- and played the youtube video using the renamed
flashplayer -- not lightspark. So you need to remove the entire flashplayer, the library
plus the "flash-properties-something" executable in /usr/bin. Perhaps even, remove the
entire flashplayer package AND reboot the Puppy.

Please forgive me for telling you this only now, but I didn't know myself when I started
this thread.

Bye for now.

musher0

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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2014, 16:17    Post_subject:  

My tests stand, as is. I removed flashplayer prior to my testing above.

Best,

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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2014, 16:36    Post_subject:  

musher0 wrote:

Cold shower, eh, Moat? Smile


Umm... lukewarm? Smile

I knew, in the back of my mind, "if it sounds too good to be true, then..." - and guessed there would be a sizable lib involved, somewhere (has to be, for that level of processing).

I'm on Carolina 1.2 atm, and Pfind doesn't find libLLVM onboard - nor does it exist in the repo. Eh, well - 20mb takes about 1.5 hr on dialup, anyways (and, being dialup, I usually just disable Flash anywho).

But, that begs the question of if a browser's Flash blocking/disabling/add-on functionality might be effected (I wouldn't think so, but...?).

Cool, though! An opportunity to worm our way out from under the Adobe blanket.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2014, 23:01    Post_subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
My tests stand, as is. I removed flashplayer prior to my testing above.

Best,

Slavvo


That's great! Thanks slavvo67!

musher0

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PostPosted: Fri 09 May 2014, 05:53    Post_subject: Lightspark doesn't work as flash player  

Pay attention not only at portable versions with everything in them, but also at flash player built in system, remove it also. I did. No flash at all on my box now and Lightspark doesn't work in all my browsers.

EDIT: Palemoon works with Lightspark, same conditions above. I have just pet-packed it and tried. I'll share it soon.

Bye.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 May 2014, 13:44    Post_subject:  

Thanks for your reports, WhiteSnow and slavvo67.

Sorry for the delay. I was busy with the Puppy Home Office project for a couple of days,
but I'm back to this project now. TWYL.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 May 2014, 15:22    Post_subject: Palemoon
Sub_title: browser that works with Lightspark as flash player
 

Just to let know that Palemoon is now available on my repository.
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PostPosted: Sun 25 May 2014, 14:39    Post_subject:  

In the meantime, there is page on gnash here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Gnash

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