palemoon browser

[s243a]

watchdog:

No, there doesn't seem to be, as far as I'm aware. I'm running v5.1.8.5 of NoScript with PaleMoon, and it still wants to get rid of the extension. Yeah... no.

It's PM that thinks the extension (not the version) is unstable/malware, apparently.

This Add-on to your browser has been blocked or disabled.
Your add-on has been blocked or disabled because it is known to be malware, has known security vulnerabilities (especially in the case of plugins), is known to cause instability, or known to cause (severe) usability issues. In the latter 2 cases, when the blocked or disabled add-on is an extension, you may be able to find an alternative on our add-ons site.

This is a Pale Moon specific blocklist entry.
Additional information:
NoScript is known to cause severe issues with a large (and growing) number of websites and stability issues in the browser itself, negatively influencing otherwise unrelated browser features.
It has known interop issues with Pale Moon and if you use this extension, it should be replaced with alternatives for a smooth and hassle-free browsing experience.

We cannot provide browser support as long as this extension is installed, due to the far-reaching issues in the browser. Use at your own peril.

Severity level 1: You will be warned and recommended to disable this extension, but can continue to use it if you so wish after confirmation.

See also: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=17619

(source: http://blocklist.palemoon.org/info/?id=pm112)

I got this warning but I don't trust palemoon here. I'm a fan of noscript

[s243a]

Can someone clarify has 32bit support for Palemoon been dropped as when I go to this page there is no 32bit version?https://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/

From the link you gave me, isn't this one

Download x86 tar.bz2 (direct download)
Size: 41.92 MB
SHA-256 checksum: f7b1ad92d8ebfd87fe0c2f397bc83eecbb698fb215004019e0f7dbcd45825abf
PGP signature: [Sig]

32bits or am I missing something???? Maybe the webpage detected you are running a 64bit system and/or browser and didn't give you the 32bit download option.

[darry19662018]

Hi s243a,

Nah my bad I just just had a blonde moment and didn't see the x86 download.

However I must say on the Palemoon forums they have been discussing getting rid of the 32bit download.

[s243a]

Hi s243a,

Nah my bad I just just had a blonde moment and didn't see the x86 download.

However I must say on the Palemoon forums they have been discussing getting rid of the 32bit download.

I hope they don't because I want to run my 32bit machines as long as I can, and even when they are done there is still the option of running the 32bit ap on a 64 bit machine, either directly in the operating system or in a virtual machine.

[nosystemdthanks]

i woke up and was greeted by the dialog about noscript.

its not the lack of support but the way this was handled (how it was handled first before users complained, then after users complained-- fud from the pm dev/mods that borders on misinformation on both occasions) that has made me lose faith in pm.

i truly loathe firefox at this point, its the lesser of two evils (i wont use chrome/ium) but im migrating from pale moon back to firefox. ive probably been using pm for 6 months, and i am now done evaluating it. posting this from pale moon-- most of what im doing in the browser now is already ff again.

the pm developer obviously doesnt listen to anybody no matter what. if barry actually tried something like this (not that he would) i honestly think he could be swayed to abandon it.

a single-developer browser from a single developer who is deaf and condescending, and increasingly sloppy-- despite all the things i found promising about pale moon, this is a dealbreaker. and im well aware that its intended to make disabling noscript optional. ive already read one report on someone who unchecked "disabled" (dont mess with my plugin settings, first of all!) and noscript still warned him on restart that it was disabled. this is pale moons unity lens.

[s243a]

a single-developer browser from a single developer who is deaf and condescending, and increasingly sloppy-- despite all the things i found promising about pale moon, this is a dealbreaker. and im well aware that its intended to make disabling noscript optional. ive already read one report on someone who unchecked "disabled" (dont mess with my plugin settings, first of all!) and noscript still warned him on restart that it was disabled. this is pale moons unity lens.

That's not good because it is the javascript that is the real maleware!!!!, not the ap that lets me block it.

[darry19662018]

@nosystemdthanks - Discussion on PM forums regarding this:
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=19107

Also with regards to 32bit support a clarification here is tje thread for that:
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... t&start=60

[Walter Dnes]

The major problem for 32-bit is the "Y2K38 problem". 32-bit linux uses signed 32-bit time_t, number-of-seconds offset from 0000 hr Jan 1, 1970 UTC. On a 32-bit linux, the following script...

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#!/bin/bash
date --date='@-2147483649'
date --date='@-2147483648'
date --date='@2147483647'
date --date='@2147483648'

...produces the following 4 lines of output...

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date: invalid date '@-2147483649'
Fri Dec 13 15:45:52 EST 1901
Mon Jan 18 22:14:07 EST 2038
date: invalid date '@2147483648'

That shows the valid date range in 32-bit mode. Problems will show up before the end. With the web going all-https, a security certificate with an expiry date of January 23, 2038 will probably cause problems.

NetBSD has backported 64-bit time_t and dev_t to their 32-bit versions, so it can be done. https://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal- ... D-6.0.html It depends on the linux kernel team whether or not that gets done for linux.

[tallboy]

Oh no, a Y2K problem again, and only 20 years from now!
Heelp!

[darry19662018]

Just as a footnote for anyone needing a browser for an old Puppy try this page which has got lost in this thread, but is updated as new versions of Palemoon come out namely Watchdog's invaluable pets. More towards the bottom of that page
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 676#973676

[tallboy]

Maybe watchdog could make a new thread for his 4.31Stardust tweaks?

[greengeek]

...namely Watchdog's invaluable pets. More towards the bottom of that page
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=480

Hi Darry - thanks for your highlighting of Watchdogs extensive collection of palemoon pets. I notice that your link goes to the top of that page - was that intended or did you want it to point directly to watchdogs post?

You probably already know but just in case - you can link directly to watchdogs post by rightclicking the little rectangular icon at top left of the post as shown in this pic and copying the direct post link:

[darry19662018]

Hey thanks Greengeek I have amended the post using your tip - old Dog like me learns a new trick.

[jss83]

Trying to watch a video on Hotstar and it gives me this error "No compatible source was found for this media", I am on Tahrpup 32bit, Palemoon is fully updated and so is flash player.

[HerrBert]

couldn't install ublock on palemoon 27.9 anymore from extensions-site... (yes, i can from moz... in compatibility-mode ...blabla) - but i found a very lightweight alternative to block external contents in palemoon.

as i don't want to block everything for reasons, i tried several settings, and for me it's acceptable to avoid loading contents from non-originated servers.

to do so, i edited my prefs.js in ~/.moonchild productions/pale moon/[blabla].default/ and added:

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user_pref("permissions.default.object", 3);
user_pref("permissions.default.script", 3);
user_pref("permissions.default.subdocument", 3);

fits my needs and speeds up palemoon

[rockedge]

to do so, i edited my prefs.js in ~/.moonchild productions/pale moon/[blabla].default/ and added:

Hallo HerrBert, thanks for that little modification...I tried it out to see if it sped up palemoon on a system running a Nagel neu Bionic 18.05 built yesterday from woof-CE with a freshly compiled kernel 4.9.96 (i686) PAE enabled..... using the kernel-kit.

It does seem to really improve the overall speed that palemoon loads pages.

machine type : DELL OptiPlex GX260

very nice!

[backi]

I am curious ......where and how to place those lines exactly ??

[HerrBert]

.where and how to place those lines exactly ??

1. quit palemoon.
2. open in texteditor:

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/root/.moonchild productions/pale moon/[blabla].default/prefs.js

(of course, your profile is not [blabla] - edit to your profiles-folder)
3. insert the three lines ( i did it in alphabetic order)
4. save and exit texteditor

start palemoon and enjoy

[norgo]

here a little bit more exactly
prefs

[greengeek]

Version 27.9.1 is available for downloading....

Hi Walter - in the old days it used to be possible to make a browser pet with a bookmarks file, or a config file that was usable on anyones machine. Then everything went to json files etc and these days I get the impression that such things as bookmarks or about:config changes can only be stored or changed AFTER a user creates a machine specific profile during first run of the browser on their own machine.

I would like to release a .pet of Palemoon that contains predetermined bookmarks (but no other reflections of my personal profile). Do you think this is currently possible or likely to be possible in a future release?

(I am also wondering if the changes made above by HerrBert could be grafted in to a default Palemoon without creating a personal profile first??)

(This is kind of similar to a previous question of mine regarding profiles but who knows, the answer may be slightly different)