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#211 Post by imago »

666philb wrote:
imago wrote:hi
can you say what for ydrv need?
i use adrv for make save to sfs module
hi imago . this explains http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83675
i want know how boot ydrv, before main puppy sfs or after? for example adrv boots before main puppy sfs

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#212 Post by mavrothal »

imago wrote: i want know how boot ydrv, before main puppy sfs or after? for example adrv boots before main puppy sfs
The init mounts the main sfs, adrv, ydrv and zdrv together
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adrv, ydrv and zdrv

#213 Post by shinobar »

Puppy loads in the order, pupsave, adrv, ydrv, main sfs, zdrv, and then extra sfs.
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

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#214 Post by pemasu »

I just tested Shinobar`s packaged tahr puppy iso with 3.14.11 kernel.
Several things are splendid in it.
- intel/nvidia 710M dual graphics works great. No need to remove nouveau.ko kernel module. Suspend and resume without freezing works with that kernel. 3.14 kernel and up has finally fized that nouveau.ko freezing problem. 3.15 kernel is ok also.
- Powertop works. There is sufficient config options enabled in kernel so that powertop gets information. Busybox included one is broken as always, but from ppm Powertop 2.5 version works. You get power usage information when in battery with laptop by using powertop. Great way to check how energy efficient is the kernel. Intel_pstate cpu freguency governor has been used in this kernel. Meaning no more ondemand option without disabling it. I test how responding this intel_pstate is. Previously I have disabled it with boot parameter: intel_pstate=disable
- Ath9k.ko wireless kernel module loads now with this kernel automatically. No need to load by using /root/Startup/folder with script to load it. Great !
- Xrandr shows me 1360x768 screen resolution option. And I obtain it by feeding it to the xorg.conf file. The default 1920x1080 resolution is too small for my eyes...due to aging and presbyopia. None of recent Slackos provide me 1360x768 resolution so Slacko`s are beyond me.
- The flsynclient and touchpad gets me delicate touchpad responsiveness....previously I couldnt finetune touchpad much with Dpup Wheezy or Upup Raring because the touchpad movements turned to awkward like drunken. Now I can finetune touchpad with Tahr Puppy. I suppose xorg version and kernel improvements are behind this progress.

- Overall...after finetuning things for my liking....I have great Puppy distro under my fingers here. Thanks 666philb of this Tahr Puppy.

http://i.imgur.com/3CyhJfT.jpg
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#215 Post by shinobar »

666philb wrote:
shinobar wrote: vmlinuz need to be add ID string, otherwise PDEV1 is blank. See /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE.

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# echo -n 't140711144545ZZZZ5.8.3XXXXXXXXXX' >> vmlinuz
hi shinobar,

can you explain this a bit more... does that command edit the vmlinuz?
The vmlinuz and the main sfs has hidden ID string.
You can see it typing like
# tail -c 32 puppy_thar_5.3.8.sfs
# tail -c 32 vmlinuz

Puppy need to know from which vmlinuz it booted off. The ID string is a label to identify which. The ID string value is written in the file DISTRO_SPECS.
666philb wrote:do i need to run it on the other kernels i've created?
Yes. The ID string is automatically add by the woof. You need manually add the ID string to the new vmlinuz if you do not make a distro by the woof. It means the kernel is not portable between Puppy distro or version, and replacing kernel is not simple even if you use the huge kernel/zdrv system.
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

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Re: adrv, ydrv and zdrv

#216 Post by mavrothal »

shinobar wrote:Puppy loads in the order, pupsave, adrv, ydrv, main sfs, zdrv, and then extra sfs.
My understanding is that the init line

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mount -t aufs -o udba=reval,diropq=w,dirs=${UMNTRW}${UMNTRO0}${ALAYER}${YLAYER}${UMNTRO1}${ZLAYER}${UMNTRO} unionfs /pup_new 
suggests layer order but all the layers (including main/a/y/s SFSs) are loaded together.
Ie you can not have code in ${UMNTRW} that will block loading of other layers (not unload or mask but block from adding into the original union).
Is my understanding wrong? Do you actually have sequential loading of SFSs as the original questions was asking?
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Re: forcepae

#217 Post by 666philb »

shinobar wrote:
666philb wrote:
shinobar wrote: vmlinuz need to be add ID string, otherwise PDEV1 is blank. See /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE.

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# echo -n 't140711144545ZZZZ5.8.3XXXXXXXXXX' >> vmlinuz
hi shinobar,

can you explain this a bit more... does that command edit the vmlinuz?
The vmlinuz and the main sfs has hidden ID string.
You can see it typing like
# tail -c 32 puppy_thar_5.3.8.sfs
# tail -c 32 vmlinuz

Puppy need to know from which vmlinuz it booted off. The ID string is a label to identify which. The ID string value is written in the file DISTRO_SPECS.
666philb wrote:do i need to run it on the other kernels i've created?
Yes. The ID string is automatically add by the woof. You need manually add the ID string to the new vmlinuz if you do not make a distro by the woof. It means the kernel is not portable between Puppy distro or version, and replacing kernel is not simple even if you use the huge kernel/zdrv system.
thanks shinobar
i've now changed the ID string on all the uploaded kernels .... though they were all booting for me even without the change
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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ID string and PDEV1

#218 Post by shinobar »

shinobar wrote: vmlinuz need to be add ID string, otherwise PDEV1 is blank. See /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE.

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# echo -n 't140711144545ZZZZ5.8.3XXXXXXXXXX' >> vmlinuz
666philb wrote:i've now changed the ID string on all the uploaded kernels .... though they were all booting for me even without the change
Yes, anyway it boots. But the PDEV1 gets blank if ID string is lacking.
Some scripts use PDEV1 value. For example, shstdownconfig sees PDEV1 to determine default pusave place. Saving the session back to the lve CD need PDEV1 value.
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

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#219 Post by backi »

Hi !

Umplayer Mediaplayer starts but does not play any multimedia files .

Any idea ?

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#220 Post by 666philb »

hi backi

i'm presuming you used a pet from somewhere ? it might need mplayer from the PPM
if that doesn't work, in quickpet there is smplayer which has a youtube browser included similar to umplayer
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

gcmartin

#221 Post by gcmartin »

Rfunning from a Slacko64 distro with QEMU V2 and @MikeB's "Launch" utility (see below). No JOY in getting to desktop. TahrPUP cannot find a suitable driver on its own.

In order to get to desktop, currently, we are required to enter "-vga std" on the Extra Parameters line of the Launcher to force the virtual machine into VESA mode.

This PUP runs faster in a KVMguest than in native mode.
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#222 Post by backi »

HI !
How to show temperature ?

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#223 Post by slavvo67 »

This pup seems to take a little longer to load (iso burned to cd). A minor inconvenience but I thought it worth the mention.

Best,

Slavvo67

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#224 Post by musher0 »

Hi, 666philb.

In your version 5.8.3, I seem to be getting a screen refresh (sort of a very
rapid white line "scan" across the screen) every 20 seconds or so. That
didn't happen in the previous versions. Have you changed the Xorg version
or the default nvidia driver in this version?

Otherwise, all good.

BFN.

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#225 Post by 666philb »

backi wrote:HI !
How to show temperature ?
there's a link in quickpet to this
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74702
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

Pelo

ah i saw that on facebook !

#226 Post by Pelo »

ah i saw that on facebook !. I was just visiting. I will try it. Abiword 2.8.6 is a right choice, tell it to musher0.
Musher0 stop please stop shooting my housewife's preferred text maker.4MB is so much ennoying ? vs your 150MB L.O ?
Others, don't mind, Musher0 however is my best partner. Philb, musher0 hates Facebook too. Nevertheless i saw tahrpup in facebook, perhaps brand new users arrive soon. We shall have to explain again how to do with a Puppy. :)

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Re: ah i saw that on facebook !

#227 Post by musher0 »

Pelo wrote:ah i saw that on facebook !. I was just visiting. I will try it.
Abiword 2.8.6 is a right choice, tell it to musher0.

Musher0 stop please stop shooting my housewife's preferred text maker.
4MB is so much annoying ? vs your 150MB L.O ?

Others, don't mind, Musher0 however is my best partner. Philb, musher0
hates Facebook too. Nevertheless i saw tahrpup in facebook, perhaps
brand new users arrive soon. We shall have to explain again how to do
with a Puppy. :)
@all:
I don't know this guy pelo! :) Abiword 2.8.6 is a wrong choice, considering
abiword is now at version 3.0.0.

@pelo:
Have you been tanking up on this wonderful Provençal pastis again? :)
Don't start any rumors, now: how could I know your "housewife"? We
(you and I, and your "housewife" and I) are one ocean and one sea apart
(the Atlantic plus the Mediterranean). You mean your maid, right? Not
your wife! Unless my ex French-from-France girlfriend Jeanne is now
shagging up with you? :twisted:

Anyway, please do not use my nickname to validate your opinions! Your
opinions are YOUR opinions! Period.

"Thou shalt not use the name of musher0 in vain," says the Lord.
Capiche? :)

Grr... :)

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#228 Post by bohocmasni »

hi!
I have a problem:

after installing xkb-data_2.10.1-1ubuntu1_all.deb from ubuntu repo, (and after X restart) my keyboard doesn't work any more.
It is a dependency for workrave.
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#229 Post by 666philb »

slavvo67 wrote:This pup seems to take a little longer to load (iso burned to cd). A minor inconvenience but I thought it worth the mention.

Best,

Slavvo67
hi slavvo67

yes it's a bit larger than a regular pup and you would notice that booting off a cd
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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#230 Post by 666philb »

musher0 wrote:Hi, 666philb.

In your version 5.8.3, I seem to be getting a screen refresh (sort of a very
rapid white line "scan" across the screen) every 20 seconds or so. That
didn't happen in the previous versions. Have you changed the Xorg version
or the default nvidia driver in this version?

Otherwise, all good.

BFN.

musher0
hi musher0,

the kernel has changed in this version and probably (hopefully :) ) it's to do with that.
you can change back to the older kernel (or try a newer) to see if that resolves it ... kernels here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/czf7b44ob03v ... DYR1PaDpca unzip the kernel and copy the vmlinuz and zdrv.sfs over the installed ones .. then reboot
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Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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