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Pelo

ah i saw that on facebook !

#226 Post by Pelo »

ah i saw that on facebook !. I was just visiting. I will try it. Abiword 2.8.6 is a right choice, tell it to musher0.
Musher0 stop please stop shooting my housewife's preferred text maker.4MB is so much ennoying ? vs your 150MB L.O ?
Others, don't mind, Musher0 however is my best partner. Philb, musher0 hates Facebook too. Nevertheless i saw tahrpup in facebook, perhaps brand new users arrive soon. We shall have to explain again how to do with a Puppy. :)

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Re: ah i saw that on facebook !

#227 Post by musher0 »

Pelo wrote:ah i saw that on facebook !. I was just visiting. I will try it.
Abiword 2.8.6 is a right choice, tell it to musher0.

Musher0 stop please stop shooting my housewife's preferred text maker.
4MB is so much annoying ? vs your 150MB L.O ?

Others, don't mind, Musher0 however is my best partner. Philb, musher0
hates Facebook too. Nevertheless i saw tahrpup in facebook, perhaps
brand new users arrive soon. We shall have to explain again how to do
with a Puppy. :)
@all:
I don't know this guy pelo! :) Abiword 2.8.6 is a wrong choice, considering
abiword is now at version 3.0.0.

@pelo:
Have you been tanking up on this wonderful Provençal pastis again? :)
Don't start any rumors, now: how could I know your "housewife"? We
(you and I, and your "housewife" and I) are one ocean and one sea apart
(the Atlantic plus the Mediterranean). You mean your maid, right? Not
your wife! Unless my ex French-from-France girlfriend Jeanne is now
shagging up with you? :twisted:

Anyway, please do not use my nickname to validate your opinions! Your
opinions are YOUR opinions! Period.

"Thou shalt not use the name of musher0 in vain," says the Lord.
Capiche? :)

Grr... :)

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#228 Post by bohocmasni »

hi!
I have a problem:

after installing xkb-data_2.10.1-1ubuntu1_all.deb from ubuntu repo, (and after X restart) my keyboard doesn't work any more.
It is a dependency for workrave.
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#229 Post by 666philb »

slavvo67 wrote:This pup seems to take a little longer to load (iso burned to cd). A minor inconvenience but I thought it worth the mention.

Best,

Slavvo67
hi slavvo67

yes it's a bit larger than a regular pup and you would notice that booting off a cd
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#230 Post by 666philb »

musher0 wrote:Hi, 666philb.

In your version 5.8.3, I seem to be getting a screen refresh (sort of a very
rapid white line "scan" across the screen) every 20 seconds or so. That
didn't happen in the previous versions. Have you changed the Xorg version
or the default nvidia driver in this version?

Otherwise, all good.

BFN.

musher0
hi musher0,

the kernel has changed in this version and probably (hopefully :) ) it's to do with that.
you can change back to the older kernel (or try a newer) to see if that resolves it ... kernels here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/czf7b44ob03v ... DYR1PaDpca unzip the kernel and copy the vmlinuz and zdrv.sfs over the installed ones .. then reboot
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#231 Post by 666philb »

bohocmasni wrote:hi!
I have a problem:

after installing xkb-data_2.10.1-1ubuntu1_all.deb from ubuntu repo, (and after X restart) my keyboard doesn't work any more.
It is a dependency for workrave.
thanks for finding that ... i was wondering which deb was causing that! ... just uninstall it and your keyboard should come back (maybe need reboot) & work-rave should work without it.

it'll need to be blacklisted .. i'll put a fix in quickpet
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#232 Post by musher0 »

Thanks for the info, philb.
I'll try to revert to the previous kernel (this is an older machine...).

BFN.

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#233 Post by slavvo67 »

I had some save file issues from USB (ext2) install. At shutdown, it hung. After rebooting it worked fine until the auto 30 minute save (would you consider defaulting it to zero in future updates?). Crashed me, again. Still a nice distro and nothing lost on my end. I just thought you might want to know. Specs for my old Dell below:

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.20GHz
Memory : 1292MB (230MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : FluxPup - 1.5.1
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 18 Jul 2014 12:19:38 AM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : EMU10K1X - Dell Sound Blaster Live!
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Dynex 5-Button Wired Optical Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA IC35L060AVV207-0
USB Flash Memory

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pata shows as usb drive

#234 Post by shinobar »

The drive icon of my pata HDD shows as a USB drive.

On slacko-593, it is /dev/sdc and shows ata drive:
# probedisk2
/dev/sda|drive|ATA ADATA SSD S510 1
/dev/sdb|drive|ATA ST32000542AS
/dev/sdc|drive|ATA WDC WD1600BB-00D
/dev/sdd|usbdrv|FLASH Drive SM_USB20
/dev/sr0|optical|PIONEER BD-RW BDR-206D

But on TahrPup-583, probedisk2 says it is /dev/sdd and shows usb drive:
# probedisk2
/dev/sda|drive|ATA ADATA SSD S510 1
/dev/sdb|drive|ATA ST32000542AS
/dev/sdc|usbdrv|FLASH Drive SM_USB20
/dev/sdd|usbdrv|ATA WDC WD1600BB-00D
/dev/sr0|optical|PIONEER BD-RW BDR-206D

On TahrPup-583, sdd is missing in the ATDRIVES list in /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE:
#ATADRIVES is all internal ide/pata/sata drives, excluding optical, excluding usb...
ATADRIVES='sda sdb '

Meanwhile /sys/block shows sdd is ata.
# ls -d /sys/block/sd* | xargs readlink
../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/block/sda
../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata2/host1/target1:0:1/1:0:1:0/block/sdb
../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-3/2-3:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sdc
../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.4/0000:03:00.0/ata5/host5/target5:0:0/5:0:0:0/block/sdd

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pata missing in initramfs

#235 Post by shinobar »

shinobar wrote:On TahrPup-583, sdd is missing in the ATDRIVES list in /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE:
#ATADRIVES is all internal ide/pata/sata drives, excluding optical, excluding usb...
ATADRIVES='sda sdb '
I tested the TahrPup-583-forcepae with pfix=ram,rdsh boot option.
Executed a comand 'ls -d /sys/block/sd*'.
It shows only sda, sdb, sdc, where sda and sdb is sata and sdc is usb.
Tha pata is missing here.

I guess some module for pata (maybe pata_marvell) is missing in the initramfs.
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#236 Post by musher0 »

666philb wrote:
musher0 wrote:Hi, 666philb.

In your version 5.8.3, I seem to be getting a screen refresh (sort of a very
rapid white line "scan" across the screen) every 20 seconds or so. That
didn't happen in the previous versions. Have you changed the Xorg version
or the default nvidia driver in this version?

Otherwise, all good.

BFN.

musher0
hi musher0,

the kernel has changed in this version and probably (hopefully :) ) it's to do with that.
you can change back to the older kernel (or try a newer) to see if that resolves it ... kernels here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/czf7b44ob03v ... DYR1PaDpca unzip the kernel and copy the vmlinuz and zdrv.sfs over the installed ones .. then reboot
Hello, 666philb.

My problem disappeared using your kernel 3.4.94 non pae -- three-dot-four-dot-ninety-four.
Unwittingly, no doubt, you introduced a typo at
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#788482

Thanks and best regards.

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#237 Post by James C »

Frugal install on a little older box. Working well.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: tahrpup, version 5.8.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.421 FPS
375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.946 FPS
373 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.554 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.126 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.975 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.093 FPS

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-Computer-
Processor		: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory		: 1027MB (325MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: tahrpup - 5.8.3
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Sat 19 Jul 2014 12:13:32 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: VIA8233 - VIA 8235

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-Version-
Kernel		: Linux 3.15.4 (i686)
Version		: #1 SMP Mon Jul 7 16:46:57 BST 2014
C Library		: GNU C Library version 2.19 (stable)
Distribution		: tahrpup - 5.8.3

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1027828       931292        96536            0        59516
-/+ buffers:             871776       156052
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
# 
Not bad even on this older,slower computer. :)

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Re: pata missing in initramfs

#238 Post by 666philb »

shinobar wrote:
shinobar wrote:On TahrPup-583, sdd is missing in the ATDRIVES list in /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE:
#ATADRIVES is all internal ide/pata/sata drives, excluding optical, excluding usb...
ATADRIVES='sda sdb '
I tested the TahrPup-583-forcepae with pfix=ram,rdsh boot option.
Executed a comand 'ls -d /sys/block/sd*'.
It shows only sda, sdb, sdc, where sda and sdb is sata and sdc is usb.
Tha pata is missing here.

I guess some module for pata (maybe pata_marvell) is missing in the initramfs.
cheers shinobar
i checked the DOTconfig and CONFIG_PATA_MARVELL=m ... needs to be set to y i'll have to recompile the kernel
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

Mayou

Mouse ok, but no keyboard !

#239 Post by Mayou »

Virtual keyboard on try XVkbd
Tutorial XVkbd
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some modules missing in initramfs

#240 Post by shinobar »

666philb wrote: i checked the DOTconfig and CONFIG_PATA_MARVELL=m ... needs to be set to y i'll have to recompile the kernel
Thanks.
Also 'y' need for CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852 and CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2.
Form slacko-6.0 beta thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=495
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Re: Mouse ok, but no keyboard !

#241 Post by 666philb »

Mayou wrote:Mouse ok, but no keyboard ! even changing countries. Sorry, shall try later.
hi mayou, what computer and what keyboard are you using?
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
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Re: some modules missing in initramfs

#242 Post by 666philb »

shinobar wrote:
666philb wrote: i checked the DOTconfig and CONFIG_PATA_MARVELL=m ... needs to be set to y i'll have to recompile the kernel
Thanks.
Also 'y' need for CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852 and CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2.
Form slacko-6.0 beta thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=495
thanks shinobar

i've uploaded a new kernel with the suggested configs https://www.dropbox.com/s/pq3cfhh0mdq1w ... PAE.tar.xz
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
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#243 Post by sketchman »

Appreciate the work on this. I'm booting from a flash drive, and running a completely diskless super compact Haswell based rig I built myself.

Quirky led me to this puplet, and I'm glad I took all the effort and time to get it running.

So tiny, yet so awesome. :)

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Thanks again.
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Re: some modules missing in initramfs

#244 Post by shinobar »

666philb wrote:i've uploaded a new kernel with the suggested configs https://www.dropbox.com/s/pq3cfhh0mdq1w ... PAE.tar.xz
Thanks. Now my HDD under Marvel IDE interface is caught correctly. :D
# probedisk
/dev/sda|drive|ATA ADATA SSD S510 1
/dev/sdb|drive|ATA ST32000542AS
/dev/sdc|drive|ATA WDC WD1600BB-00D
/dev/sdd|usbdrv|FLASH Drive SM_USB20
/dev/sr0|optical|PIONEER BD-RW BDR-206D
/dev/sr1|optical|MATSHITABD-MLT UJ240AF

Add the ID string:
# echo -n 't140711144545ZZZZ5.8.3XXXXXXXXXX' >> vmlinux
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vlc media player

#245 Post by shinobar »

When you have 2 optical drives, sr0 and sr1, cliking DVD on sr1 invokes vlc mediaplayer, but vlc fails because it tyies sr0.

Next config file solves this issue:
/root/.config/vlc/vclcrc

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[main] # main program
# DVD device (string)
dvd=/dev/dvd

# VCD device (string)
vcd=/dev/dvd

# Audio CD device (string)
cd-audio=/dev/cdrom
Another issue:
VLC config has 'disable-screensaver' flag, but it does not work at all. :cry:
I don't know the reason. :roll:
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