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Annoying visual issue.

#331 Post by gyro »

Fresh frugal install of tahr 5.8.3.rc1.
Used the wallpaper changer to select a dark background.
Text under desktop icons becomes very difficult to read.
How can I change the colour of this text to plain white?

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Re: Annoying visual issue.

#332 Post by mavrothal »

gyro wrote:Used the wallpaper changer to select a dark background.
Text under desktop icons becomes very difficult to read.
How can I change the colour of this text to plain white?
Right-click on an icon and go ROX-filer-->options-->Pinboard
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#333 Post by 666philb »

mavrothal wrote:Updated 5.8.3 without any major issues.
Nice build!
The only thing was that quickpet after an update offers and installs tahr fixes 1.5. Should it be so? Aren't all fixes included in the ISO or this is because of the update as oppose to fresh install?

BTW is that a fresh woof build or a "manual" remaster of 5.8.3. If the former, where is the code? :wink:
hi mavrothal,

i didn't think of that... when upgrading with a savefile the old quickpet overwrites the new .. should be fixed now if you try it.

this is a fresh woof build although a bit hacky, the main reason being that it uses packages from barrys quirky6 repository where as tahrpups packages are in the puppy repository. I need to sort out what it uses from quirky6 and upload to the tahr repo. This maybe why tahr packages aren't showing in the ppm.
i've attached 'woof-distro' but to build tahrpup you would need to manually download packages from here
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ibiblio/distributio ... ages-tahr/ to the 'local-repositories' in woof.

on side note ... can you look at sketchmans post above about disappearing drive icons http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 315#797799

any idea?

thanks
phil
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#334 Post by mavrothal »

666philb wrote:when upgrading with a savefile the old quickpet overwrites the new .. should be fixed now if you try it.
Is OK now.
666philb wrote:this is a fresh woof build although a bit hacky,
Maybe is time to clean it up and commit it to woof-CE :wink:
666philb wrote:on side note ... can you look at sketchmans post above about disappearing drive icons http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 315#797799

any idea?
I can not reproduce the issue so is hard to figure out .
/usr/local/bin/drive_all is a place to start looking for possible hints.

Is it also true in slacko 6 beta? What about older puppies (precise, slacko 5.7).
If only in newer maybe related to the changes introduced to accommodate save folder. If in Tahr but not slacko-6 maybe is some quircky package that does it.
But again without being able to reproduce it...
BTW which phone is it? (model/OS version) Any special PC communication app on the phone?
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Re: Annoying visual issue.

#335 Post by gyro »

mavrothal wrote:Right-click on an icon and go ROX-filer-->options-->Pinboard
Thanks. Fixed.

@666philb
Thanks for TahrPup, it's looking like a keeper.

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TahrPup 5.8.3.rc1

#336 Post by Billtoo »

New install to a usb 3.0 hard drive.
I added some applications with ppm.
Rc1 is working well.
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#337 Post by don570 »

It was easy to install on IBM desktop with an intel graphics chip.

However some apps are out of date:

For instance,

pschedule has just been updated by Zigbert

baconrecorder has been much improved

Copy fast is a useful utility that I like to use.
I was thinking of upgrading it so that
copied to the Network Share folder???

gcmartin

#338 Post by gcmartin »

Don't remember seeing one, but, is there some documentation which shows developers a path to move distros from WOOF to WOOFCE? This may be helpful to some who understand the old process.

Curious

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#339 Post by mavrothal »

gcmartin wrote:Don't remember seeing one,
Maybe because there is nothing to see!
Woof and woof-CE have very little difference from the developer point of view.

In any case, other threads (or even a new one) might be more appropriate than a pupplet thread...
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PUI or puppyinstaller

#340 Post by shinobar »

The Puppy Universal Installer in Tahrpup-5.8.3.rc1 does not work.
Need next fix against /usr/sbin/puppyinstaller:

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 --- puppyinstaller-tahrpu-rc1	2014-08-28 05:07:44.000000000 +0900
+++ puppyinstaller-20140905	2014-09-05 11:12:52.723335605 +0900
@@ -1152,7 +1152,8 @@
 </window>
 "
 
-eval $(echo "$DLG2" | ${GTKDIALOGEXE} --stdin -c) #140710 clean this up
+RETTXT=$(echo "$DLG2" | ${GTKDIALOGEXE} --stdin -c)
+eval "$RETTXT"
 rm /tmp/{buttonstate,win,cnt,num*,ntfsmnterr*,is_f2fs} 2>/dev/null #cleanup
 #returns EXIT="Cancel" or EXIT="abort"...]
 case "$EXIT" in
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#341 Post by 666philb »

hi shinobar ,

i think it worked .... it now installs tahrpup to a usb, although i got this error when patching

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# patch puppyinstaller < pui.patch
patching file puppyinstaller
patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line
Hunk #1 succeeded at 1152 with fuzz 1.
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#342 Post by 666philb »

shinobar,

it was brought to my attention on irc #puppylinux that when tahrpup boots live off a usb, the usb remains mounted where as in precise puppy when booting live the usb gets unmounted.

do you know where this setting is? as i don't think anything should be mounted automatically on a live boot

thanks

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usb remains mounted

#343 Post by shinobar »

Depends on the pupsave, RAM size, and boot options...
If you have enough RAM and without pupsave, maybe unmounted.

As for the boot option,
pfix=ram
or
pmedia=cd pfix=ram
may be unmounted.

I am not sure with next boot options:
pmadia=usbflash pfix=ram
pmedia=usbflash pfix=nocopy

I have not yet tested with the tahrpup.

EDIT: Tested with the tahrpup-5.8.3.rc1.
I have 4GB RAM with 'pmadia=usbflash pfix=ram' option.
The usb remains mounted.
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Re: some modules missing in initramfs

#344 Post by shinobar »

666philb wrote:i've uploaded a new kernel with the suggested configs https://www.dropbox.com/s/pq3cfhh0mdq1w ... PAE.tar.xz
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 753#790753

Tharpup-5.8.3-rc1 has kernel 3.14.11, whereas i expected 3.14.13.
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#345 Post by gyro »

666philb wrote:it was brought to my attention on irc #puppylinux that when tahrpup boots live off a usb, the usb remains mounted where as in precise puppy when booting live the usb gets unmounted.
I can confirm that the usb device remains mounted, although there is no apparent reason for this. i.e. both sfs files are copied to ram and mounted from tmpfs.
It should be umounted by the boot process once it is no longer needed.

I tried using boot options:
pmedia=usbflash pfix=ram
Same result.

But, after manually unmounting the usb device, the system seemed to continue to work ok.

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Re: usb remains mounted

#346 Post by shinobar »

shinobar wrote:EDIT: Tested with the tahrpup-5.8.3.rc1.
I have 4GB RAM with 'pmadia=usbflash pfix=ram' option.
The usb remains mounted.
I installed on a USB flash using the modified puppyinstaller by 666philb:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=340

RAM size is 4GB. Tested some boot options(grub4dos).
1. pmedia=usbflash pfix=ram
The usb remains mounted as already reported.
I am not sure this is reasonable or a bug.

2. pfix=ram (removed pmedia option)
The usb unmounted.
Maybe reasonable and be as expected.
EDIT: This test may be wrong. The main sfs may be loaded from internal HDD.

3. pmedia=cd pfix=ram
Coudn't find the main SFS and failed to boot.
Can be resonable, but it is a problem when one try to make a live usb using unetbootin.
EDIT: No problem with unetbootin because it's OK with 'pmedia=cd', without 'pfix=ram' option.
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Re: usb remains mounted

#347 Post by gyro »

shinobar wrote:2. pfix=ram (removed pmedia option)
The usb unmounted.
Maybe reasonable and be as expected.
Very interesting.
I tried some testing in a different direction.

1. Frugal install on ntfs partition with save folder on ext3 partition:
Renamed "tahrsave" to "Xtahrsave" and booted.

2. Frugal install on ext4 partition with save folder in same directory as puppy sfs:
Renamed "tahrsave" to "Xtahrsave" and booted.

In both cases the partition containing the puppy sfs remained mounted, according to "df" and "mount".
But this partition could be manually unmounted, according to "df" and "mount", and the system continued to work.
However on shutdown tahr puppy listed the partition as being unmounted as a stray partition.

So, the "problem" appears to not be peculiar to usb, but rather all pupmode=5 boots.

Note: I have not observed any similar occurrences on any pupmode=12 boot. In particular when the puppy sfs is on an ntfs partition and the save folder is on an ext3 partition, the ext3 partition is mounted, but the ntfs partition is not.

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TahrPup 5.8.3.rc1

#348 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to the hard drive of a compaq desktop pc:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 5 Sep 2014 on tahrpup 5.8.3.rc1 Linux 3.14.11 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 340.32

Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @2500 1: @2500 MHz

Updated ppm and added applications.
Working well so far.

EDIT:After a few hours running, I'm liking Tahrpup rc1, palemoon works well.
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#349 Post by tlchost »

Apparently tahr does not allow save to folder if it's used on a bootable usb drive formatted as FAT

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#350 Post by Smithy »

Decided to give the Tahr Baby a go.
Dual Core, 2gb ram, Intel.

I held off because Barry K said you have to extract everything to a usb stick, so I was expecting to see 700mb+ of stuff being pumped over, and was weighing up the pros and cons of that method. Maybe I read it wrong.

Anyways, Opened up the ISO and extracted to a Fat stick after using rcrn51 trusty code.
Code: (unmount your stick first)
syslinux /dev/sdb1 (or whatever your stick is)

Rebooted. Everything came up to the desktop, yay, still a puppy.
Glx gears up ok.
Even tried a Restyle pet for Wheezy, and that worked except the volume icon is missing (but the slider works in the space where the absent vol icon should be).

WMA music files work on this puppy (I have a few of those from back in the day).

Put in an audio CD and up pops PCD, but bu**gers around and can't seem to play. Killed that and brought Deadbeef up and selected play CD. No problem there.
I never realised how absolutely brilliant MHWavedit is once you full screen it, it hides all it's looping editing light under a bushel as standard.

System font or theme or something not quite as glossy as Pemasu DPup Wheezy, but nearly.
Wish they'd stick the MIDI back into VLC, always handy.

There again, it would be nice if someone made a Linux XMPlay, because that is fantastic for instantly checking out frequencies of tracks and songs (not that I am a frequency nerd, oh no missus).

Haven't tried Palemoon yet, (I've heard that some people like Cyberfox also) but looks like another good Puppy!

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