TahrPup 5.8.4

[charbaby66]

666philb, I have one of those crazy Pentium M's that need a bit of help (or code) to make it work under Precise 5.7.1 & Slacko 5.7 or higher..
The new 5.8.4 non PAE works OOTB, all issues w/ muted sound, no wifi detected /disconnects, shutdown hang / savefile (dir) creation/corruption
are gone !!! I am so happy not to have to edit anything to avoid/solve issues thus far.. thank you so much for helping and making this purty little pup.

Quick question as I have not kept up with new developments for lack of being able to find anything newer than the updated Lucid 5.2.8.4 to play nice, I am not up on the modular kernel changing these days and would like to try the forced PAE on here (EDIT: on the PAE version) . I don't know if you applied shinobar's patch to the new build and I don't know if some of my issues with that iso were due to not understanding his instructions as to if to boot with pfix=ram and/or forcepae, Either way I had one or more of the issues mentioned above, now all solved with this (EDIT: NonPAE )build..

666philb wrote:
i've uploaded a new 3.14.11 kernel which hopefully has the force PAE patch applied, and the cirrus qemu module inbuilt https://www.dropbox.com/s/3x121v1gt8ib9 ... .11.tar.gz

shinobar wrote:
I made .iso... <snip> ...which does not mean any TahrPup derivative, but just for making it easy to test 666philb's new kernel....<snip>...The boot menu is add 'forcepae' parameter. It runs both with non-PAE Pentium M CPU and with any other PAE capable CPU...<snip>...Run with 'puppy pfix=ram' boot option (no need 'forcepae') if you have TahrPup on your HDD. Otherwise, Puppy runs from the HDD.

I want to see if it makes a difference using PAE or not considering all the
back and forth..but this is very low priority since all seems good as it is.

And again thank you It is nice to be running a newer pup on this box.
I *love* the save folder.. you puppy capable programmers are fabulous!
Thanks for incorporating it, and to all who help puppy and folks like me!

Am I happy? Oh yeah

[linux28]

TahrPup 5.8.4
sound Not normal
palemoon flase no sound
vlc Sound is intermittent

[linux28]

TahrPup 5.8.4restart graphical server

Later can't use the keyboard

[peebee]

Hi 666philb

Testing 5.8.4 - initially pae version on my desktop with nvidia graphics.

All well so far - have been able to compile the Broadcom wl driver for the new kernel with no problems.

I do notice however that openssl version is reporting an old OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014

whereas the up to date version is 1.0.1i................

Cheers & congrats & thanks
peebee

[666philb]

PuppyTahr-5.8.4 runs nice both fresh and after an update.

Palemoon however fails to display properly some pages, notably https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE (see sceeny)
Anybody else sees that?

hi mavrothal,

yes i've noticed that and only on github ... it's to do with the browsers internal certificates and i think it fixes itself eventually.

you can make github display correctly straight away by ...
preferences>>>advanced>>>certificates>>>validation and untick the 'OSCP' box
then visit github and it will display correctly... after you can turn OSCP back on.

[666philb]

Hi 666philb
I do notice however that openssl version is reporting an old OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014 whereas the up to date version is 1.0.1i...........

updating to the 1.0.1.i version causes lots of problems in tahrpup .... however the 1.0.1f versionin trusty tahr is patched against heartbleed i believe

[666philb]

and would like to try the forced PAE on here (EDIT: on the PAE version) . I don't know if you applied shinobar's patch to the new build

hi charbaby66,

i think i applied the patch on the PAE version of 5.8.4, can you test. if not the 3.14.13 kernel here definitely has the patch applied http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... r/kernels/

[666philb]

TahrPup 5.8.4
sound Not normal
palemoon flase no sound
vlc Sound is intermittent

hi linux28,

did the keyboard fail after restart on 5.8.3 or only after you tried those sound drivers i posted?

i had a similar thing with flash not working, and it was because i had set the soundcard using the tray and not using multiple soundcard wizard first. run the wizard and make note of the card number and then check that it matches in retrovol settings/config

after sound is set properly .... in vlc prefernces >>audio choose
alsa sound output>>> then choose default audio device probably

[backi]

I get sound on players ..... but on retrovol mixer PCM slider is working but not possible to tick or untick it.

Therefor on audacity Pcm is not recognized.no sound for audacity from Pcm soundcard .

[mavrothal]

yes i've noticed that and only on github ... it's to do with the browsers internal certificates and i think it fixes itself eventually.

you can make github display correctly straight away by ...
preferences>>>advanced>>>certificates>>>validation and untick the 'OSCP' box
then visit github and it will display correctly... after you can turn OSCP back on.

OK Thx

BTW, if this is to be released as the next official woof-CE-derived puppy, would be a good idea to get a decent version number (5.9 or 6.0 instead of the current point release) and also a decent announcement, so Barry can put it in his blog (eventually).

[torgo]

I just created a fresh savefile and loaded that github woof-ce page in Pale Moon - and it displayed normally. Not sure what the difference would be, but the issue didn't happen on my system.





I also found I must be doing something very wrong in making SFS files of various programs. I used Puppy Package Manager to download (only download, not install) Audacity 2.0.5 and all dependencies. I extracted them all and made them into a SFS file. It wouldn't run from the SFS. But when I went back to PPM and installed them rather than download-only, Audacity works fine.

Same thing with Aqualung - putting it and all dependencies into SFS didn't work, but installing it through PPM works fine.

I hadn't run into that in Precise or Lucid before. Any hints from the experts on what I might be doing incorrectly?

[666philb]

hi torgo,

when make sfs files from ubuntu libs .... you need to move any libs that are in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu to /usr/lib and delete the then empty i386-linux-gnu folder.
same applies to /lib/i386-linux-gnu & move the libs to /lib.
the i386-linux-gnu folders are just symlinks and it confuses sfsload or aufs.

pets don't have this problem, but i still move the libs out.

[ASRI éducation]

hi torgo,

when make sfs files from ubuntu libs .... you need to move any libs that are in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu to /usr/lib and delete the then empty i386-linux-gnu folder.
same applies to /lib/i386-linux-gnu & move the libs to /lib.
the i386-linux-gnu folders are just symlinks and it confuses sfsload or aufs.

PaDS (by RSH) does it automatically.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81511
Regards

[torgo]

Thanks for the SFS tip, 666philb. I'll also check out PaDS sometime, ASRI.


On the Pale Moon page display issue - the GitHub page for Woof-CE came up fine on one system using a clean savefile, but it had the bad display on another system where I had a bunch of other stuff already loaded.

It makes me wonder if there might be some kind of conflict that affects the page display.

[bohocmasni]

Something puts a 'drives' icon to my desktop and cannot be disabled in desktop drive icon manager. (if I delete .pup_event/drive_drives, st rekreates it after X restart).

Any idea what script should I remove?

hi bohocmasni
have a look a the scripts in /usr/local/pup_event

I modified /usr/local/pup_event/frontend_startup and it seems working. My desktop is clean now. Thx

[666philb]

Audacious (audio player) = works great
Audacity v2.0.0 (audio editor) = won't run
Aqualung (audio player, version from Oct 2012) = won't run
Google Chrome v37 = works
Opera 12.16 = works

a few games:
Wesnoth v1.8 (SFS I made for Lucid) = works
Konquest (SFS I made for Lucid) = works
Bit.Trip.Runner (commercial, purchased through Humble Bundle) = won't run
Gratuitous Space Battles (commercial) = works
Little Inferno (commercial) = won't run
Superhex (commercial) = works
Out Of The Park Baseball 14 = works

With Precise, the games Bit.Trip.Runner and Little Inferno will load on nearly any system, but the graphics scroll so slowly on many machines as to make them unplayable. That's what gave me the idea to test them in Tahr 5.8.4.

try right clicking on them and choose run in terminal. it should show you what's missing (or use the new LDD in right click). then in the PPM type what's missing into the find box (just the name) and install it with all dependencies. bit trip runner requires libopenal

[watchdog]

Today I gained another puppy: all working in my frugal install of tahr 5.8.4 nopae on a HP laptop (lightencrypted savefile). There could be some bugs about clipboard copying and pasting stuff but I can't reproduce it. It's not important: after clearing the clipboard it worked. Thanks.

[James C]

Tahr 5.8.4 live on another Nvidia box....non-HDMI All working on initial boot...even sound.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: tahrpup, version 5.8.4

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.397 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.886 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.881 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.885 FPS

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-Computer-
Processor		: 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory		: 4148MB (233MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: tahrpup - 5.8.4
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Mon 13 Oct 2014 03:02:33 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Gallium 0.4 on NVA8
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: PC-Speaker - pcsp

[peebee]

Hi 666philb
I do notice however that openssl version is reporting an old OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014 whereas the up to date version is 1.0.1i...........

updating to the 1.0.1.i version causes lots of problems in tahrpup .... however the 1.0.1f versionin trusty tahr is patched against heartbleed i believe

I have 1.0.1i from Debian made into a pet which has been incorporated into LxPupTahr14.09 (downloaded 518 times) with no reports of problems....

Let me know by pm if you'd like the pet.

Cheers
peebee

[Marv]

Hi 666philb
I do notice however that openssl version is reporting an old OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014 whereas the up to date version is 1.0.1i...........

updating to the 1.0.1.i version causes lots of problems in tahrpup .... however the 1.0.1f versionin trusty tahr is patched against heartbleed i believe

I have 1.0.1i from Debian made into a pet which has been incorporated into LxPupTahr14.09 (downloaded 518 times) with no reports of problems....

Let me know by pm if you'd like the pet.

Cheers
peebee

Running LxPupTahr 14.09. Anything in particular I should try or look for? Basically it seems completely ok here in moderate normal daily use. I'm kind of alternating between it and X-Slacko 2.2n and Carolina with battleshooters 3.17 kernel so it's not fulltime use but it still gets exercised fairly often.