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jamesbond
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 3146 Location: The Blue Marble
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Posted: Mon 25 Aug 2014, 08:27 Post subject:
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raffy wrote: | The big problem about the Puppy Linux home page is that if it is done multi-user (using scripts), its CPU usage jumps given the high number of hits and the site is soon suspended by the host. This explains the static nature of the home page. | I'm sure there are others who are willing to donate cpu/server space to make a dynamic home page. I know I would.
But the github idea has its appeal too.
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raffy
Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4839 Location: Manila
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Posted: Tue 26 Aug 2014, 15:55 Post subject:
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jamesbond wrote: | I'm sure there are others who are willing to donate cpu/server space to make a dynamic home page. I know I would. |
We can use puppylinux.info anytime for this - I mean, have the server ready, give me the DNS info and I will direct the domain to that server. (For puppylinux.com or puppylinux.org, you will have to request Barry to do this.)
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wanderer
Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 510
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Posted: Sat 04 Oct 2014, 23:35 Post subject:
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I have taken the liberty to send this message to Barry K. I know he has said he does not want to be contacted but I don't know any other way to address this issue. If he does not read it on his blog maybe he will read it here. If anyone knows any way to contact Barry K please post it here.
Dear Barry K, I am sorry to bother you because I know you are retired however I have noticed that the Puppy Linux home page has not been updated in a while and this is also true of the Distrowatch page. Would it be acceptable for you to assign a few Puppy Linux members to maintain both pages ? I am afraid if this is not done many people will think that development of Puppy Linux has stopped. My personal suggestion is the Woof-CE team since they are actively developing your system, others could join them as appropriate. Once again I apologize for bothering you. Thank you for your consideration of this request.
A Puppy fan
Wanderer
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anikin
Joined: 10 May 2012 Posts: 982
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Posted: Sun 05 Oct 2014, 10:04 Post subject:
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dejan555

Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2805 Location: Montenegro
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Posted: Tue 21 Oct 2014, 17:46 Post subject:
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Fork & rename ?
Puppy has been a community project for quite some time now, but if trademark/access to site is still Barry's and he doesn't take any action on the issue I guess the real solution is to choose another name and logo for puppylinux / woof and continue development with new site / domain too which will be official. Then it could be listed as new project on Distrowatch too, same way as Simplicity linux was.
It might seem drastic but I see it as only real solution for future too.
Development would go on through woof-CE (renamed) releases would still have the same unique puppy enviroment with the change of name and logo.
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bark_bark_bark
Joined: 05 Jun 2012 Posts: 1935 Location: Wisconsin USA
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Posted: Tue 21 Oct 2014, 19:19 Post subject:
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[removed, my idea was stupid]
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tlchost
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 2051 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Tue 21 Oct 2014, 19:54 Post subject:
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dejan555 wrote: | Fork & rename ?
I guess the real solution is to choose another name and logo for puppylinux / woof and continue development with new site / domain too which will be official. Then it could be listed as new project on Distrowatch too, same way as Simplicity linux was.
It might seem drastic but I see it as only real solution for future too.
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Sounds like a plan....but, if the community doesn't go with it...stagnation rules.
Someone needs to paint a bulls eye on their back and jut start the ball rolling. I can set up a site/domain, but we need a name.
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raffy
Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4839 Location: Manila
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Posted: Tue 21 Oct 2014, 21:22 Post subject:
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woof4linux sounds good and is available.
woof is the building block, so it should be able to cover all its kid puppies.
non-woof but cousin puppies can still be featured there.
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 2964
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Posted: Wed 22 Oct 2014, 00:47 Post subject:
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I believe that the content rather than the name is the real issue.
For example www.puppy-linux.org redirects to the forum but could be used without affecting the existing sites. www.puppy-linux.com links to nowhere but if is also registered with a "friendly" person, it could be used.
Building a new puppy home page could be done right now in the woof-CE git page that currently looks like this . There is a simple mechanism that you can have this page shown on the address that you have secured.
You do not like woof-CE just build a site on another repo or place and then link it. There is also a Pupppy PR group that is looking for members!
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darry1966

Joined: 26 Feb 2012 Posts: 898
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Posted: Wed 22 Oct 2014, 01:02 Post subject:
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mavrothal wrote: | I believe that the content rather than the name is the real issue.
For example www.puppy-linux.org redirects to the forum but could be used without affecting the existing sites. www.puppy-linux.com links to nowhere but if is also registered with a "friendly" person, it could be used.
Building a new puppy home page could be done right now in the woof-CE git page that currently looks like this . There is a simple mechanism that you can have this page shown on the address that you have secured.
You do not like woof-CE just build a site on another repo or place and then link it. There is also a Pupppy PR group that is looking for members!  |
Hi Mavrothal,
Looks clean crisp and modern. Looks like a good start I liked the old one but hey this ones even better.
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raffy
Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4839 Location: Manila
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Posted: Thu 23 Oct 2014, 01:12 Post subject:
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A fresh install of Wordpress is at puppylinuxnews.org. [EDIT - It did not work, so back to the wiki for contributors.]
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The origin of this development is in this thread.
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6717 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu 23 Oct 2014, 16:45 Post subject:
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Barry K is aware......
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00092
Quote: | Raffy is the main guy to make a decision, a very long-established Puppy fan and supporter, who has established his credentials over many years.
Raffy already has control over the content of puppylinux.org (as well as others, as it is a wiki).
If Raffy suggests where puppylinux.com should be redirected to, I will seriously look at that. |
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Ted Dog

Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 4013 Location: Heart of Texas
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Posted: Sat 25 Oct 2014, 14:59 Post subject:
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I can help if need be. I also have puppylinux.net and a server, plus I have dealt with Hostgater before when I released .org and BK and I co habitated All three at Hostgater for the transfer. Its a Texas based company. Moving DNS records are easy, And Hostgater seemed fine with the smooth and seemless transfers.
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 2964
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Posted: Sun 26 Oct 2014, 03:59 Post subject:
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Ted Dog wrote: | I can help if need be. I also have puppylinux.net and a server, plus I have dealt with Hostgater before when I released .org and BK and I co habitated All three at Hostgater for the transfer. Its a Texas based company. Moving DNS records are easy, And Hostgater seemed fine with the smooth and seemless transfers. |
Good to know. Thanks.
However, as stated many times, the content is the major obstacle
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vicmz

Joined: 15 Jan 2012 Posts: 1268
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Posted: Sun 26 Oct 2014, 18:07 Post subject:
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mavrothal wrote: | as stated many times, the content is the major obstacle |
I think lack of time to write content is a bigger obstacle. Texts don't really have to be long, as long as readers can get the information they need. I guess I could set some time to write on a regular basis, at least to get it started. Also, others could proofread to make sure the information is accurate and up-to-date.
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