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razenxd

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Aug 2014, 14:01    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
You really don't want to permanently set your router on WEP encryption. But for a few dollars, you could buy a USB WiFi adapter that would work in Lupu with WPA.


Yeah i really don't Razz
Btw i don't think that any1 will hijack my password and access my access point but just to be sure Razz
Well i got one NextGear WN111 which i thinks it works but really i dont like the option to have an external adapter since the laptop got it's own.
It's also bad cause the laptop is heating a little bit and the usb's are in the place the laptop heats the most and also the usb is heating and i want this for the bed Razz
So WPA isn't supported i can't do much from what i understand right?
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Aug 2014, 14:06    Post subject:  

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So WPA isn't supported i can't do much from what i understand right?

I have no other ideas.
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razenxd

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Aug 2014, 14:13    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
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So WPA isn't supported i can't do much from what i understand right?

I have no other ideas.


Ok,
Really thanks for ur time and ur effort trying to help me mate Smile
If u came up with any idea i will be happy to hear and try Razz
Also if u know any1 who maybe have any idea on this let me know
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ardvark


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Aug 2014, 17:23    Post subject:  

Hi...

Thank you for posting the information I requested. I would have to agree that using a USB adapter might be your only other option here. Sad

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rokytnji


Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Pecos/ Texas

PostPosted: Sun 10 Aug 2014, 20:47    Post subject:  

ardvark wrote:
Hi...

Thank you for posting the information I requested. I would have to agree that using a USB adapter might be your only other option here. Sad

Regards...


Nope You can use your pcmcia slot instead. It is always how I roll on ancient laptops.
I would physically disconnect the

02:02.0 Network controller [0280]: AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco Aironet Wireless 802.11b [14b9:a504]

internal card though. So as to not confuse the issue on bootup.

I never used wireless usb on my ancient ibm laptops. Since they only had one usb port.

Another good one I used was a Dlink WNA 1330 pcmcia card.

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)

All I posted are wpa capable as my shop wireless is wpa protected.

If you are really serious about using that T43 in bed. That ebay chinese pcmcia card I am very happy with the N speeds on my IBM T23.

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ardvark


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Aug 2014, 22:03    Post subject:  

rokytnji wrote:
Nope You can use your pcmcia slot instead. It is always how I roll on ancient laptops.


I never even thought of that because, I think partly, the last time I used a PCMCIA card on a laptop (running Windows 95) back in 2003-4, there would be times where the card wouldn't even register with the computer even though the card was fine. This would require me to reboot the system a second time. It may have been a Windows issue but it left a bad taste in my mouth as far as PCMCIA was concerned. Sad

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tempestuous

Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Sun 10 Aug 2014, 23:29    Post subject:  

razenxd wrote:
So Wpa isn't supported from my card or from the driver?

Correct.
Like many/most old B-mode wifi devices, only WEP encryption was supported
... however ...
WPA support has been added by recent drivers (both Windows and Linux) and you will see that the Linux airo driver definitely now supports WPA, but probably NOT WPA2 -
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/airo
... however ... WPA support also requires an update to the device's onboard firmware.
Here's where things get difficult, because Cisco does not provide firmware to end-users, only to vendors (such as IBM).
Some reading on the web leads me to believe that updated Windows XP drivers from IBM will automatically upgrade the onboard firmware. So if you still have Windows XP on your laptop, you could try installing the "Cisco Systems Mini PCI Wireless LAN driver Version 3.8.26.01" from -
http://support.lenovo.com/au/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-t-series-laptops/thinkpad-t42
Then boot back into Puppy.

Personally I think this is really trying to "hot rod a horse cart". It would be better to replace the wifi device with a modern unit.
Apart from the options already mentioned: USB and PCMCIA, there's also the option to replace the internal miniPCI card - this seems the most elegant solution to me. The miniPCI card needs to be an official IBM unit, otherwise the BIOS won't recognise it. I suggest the Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG -
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_PRO/Wireless_2200BG_Mini-PCI_Adapter
On eBay search for "IBM 2200BG Mini PCI" - they can be found for $10.
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